Lu Minghao heard that Liu Haotian was going to talk about philosophy and life ideals with Liu Zilong, and his face showed surprise at this time.

He didn't quite understand what trick Liu Haotian was playing, after all, Liu Haotian's main task today was to break through Liu Zilong's psychological defense line and let him explain his problems and the situation he mastered, but Liu Haotian not only did not directly interrogate Liu Zilong, but wanted to talk about life and philosophy with Liu Zilong, what kind of operation is this?

Although there is indeed a means of communicating with the suspect and making friends in the interrogation technique to break through the other party's psychological defense, Liu Haotian just used the agitation method, and from the conversation between the two just now, Lu Minghao could still hear that Liu Haotian seemed to know that Liu Zilong was very grateful to his alma mater and had always been proud of his alma mater, and Liu Haotian used the agitation method to obviously force Liu Zilong to talk to him about philosophy, life and ideals.

Liu Haotian's first wave of operations greatly surprised Lu Minghao.

Lu Minghao could only observe silently.

Liu Haotian smiled slightly: "Liu Zilong, who is old and who is young, let's distinguish between high and low through philosophical speculation."

Confucius said in the Analects: The gentleman is in righteousness, and the villain is in profit. Both Confucius and Mencius believed that righteousness and profit were contradictory, and they emphasized the importance of righteousness and the cheapness of profit. Xunzi advocated righteousness before profit, while Mozi advocated that righteousness and profit are consistent. In the face of these ancient views, what do you think about righteousness and benefit?"

After Liu Zilong heard Liu Haotian finish speaking, he suddenly showed a shocked look on his face, because for him, a top student in the philosophy department, the distinction between righteousness and benefit is an extremely difficult problem, and Liu Haotian, a science student, wants to debate this issue with himself as a philosophy student.

Thinking of this, Liu Zilong sneered and said: "Liu Haotian, whether it is Confucius, Mencius or Mozi Xunzi, their views and doctrines are all based on the judgments made in their special era.

The history of the world is constantly advancing, and the philosophical speculation of righteousness and benefit is also constantly advancing.

Maslow's demand theory believes that human needs are affected by economic conditions and gradually appear from low to high, and the lowest needs are material needs, and only when the basic material needs are met and the high-level needs beyond the economy will appear. ”

Speaking of this, Liu Zilong said with a disdainful face: "Liu Haotian, do you understand what Maslow's needs theory is? If you don't understand, then what I just said is equivalent to playing the piano to a cow." ”

Liu Haotian smiled faintly: "Could it be that Maslow's theory of needs is very advanced? Do you think that the thinking of ancient Chinese philosophers is very backward? It seems that you are also a poor person who has been misled by modern Western scholarship."

Those of you who study philosophy, there are indeed some high-ranking people, and even many of them have come to a very high position and have a great right to speak, but, with all due respect, you have learned too much Western academic thought, which has led you to always think that Western academic thought is authentic scholarship, and have abandoned the traditional academic views of the Chinese nation for thousands of years, so when you judge things, you are getting closer and closer to the Western world view and values.

However, what you do not understand is that the fundamental reason why the Chinese nation has been able to stand firm for thousands of years, why it has been able to rise strongly in the face of setbacks and sufferings again and again, and why the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation can certainly be realized lies in the unique academic and philosophical viewpoints of the Chinese nation. ”

Before Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong directly interrupted him: "Liu Haotian, I don't agree with your point of view, who said that there is a problem with Western philosophical thought, the advantage of our Chinese nation's tradition is that it is eclectic, and there are many foreign academic views that are very advanced, which we do not have in our traditional Chinese culture, do we have to be rigid by those traditional and corresponding views of those traditions to frame our thinking?"

Liu Haotian said lightly: "I have never said that, I admit that there are some Western philosophies and ideas that are indeed very good, such as Marxism, which is very good, but, listening to your meaning, it seems to be disdainful of traditional Chinese philosophical thought."

I am afraid that people like you, under the misdirection of modern Western scholarship, must think that whether it is righteousness or profit, it belongs to the category of things, a problem of economic distribution.

However, it is precisely because of this mode of thinking of yours that modern Western society sees only benefits everywhere in the face of a sudden epidemic like the new coronavirus, but does not see righteousness. That's what makes their people in dire straits.

On the other hand, our country took only 76 days to control the development of the epidemic and is unique in the world.

Why is this happening, haven't you reflected on it?

If you don't understand, I can tell you that it is a distinction between righteousness and benefit, and our traditional Chinese culture has its own unique viewpoint.

Righteousness is a problem of human heart, human nature, and heart, and the object of attention and research is the inner human heart and human nature, and profit belongs to the category of things, and it is an efficiency problem and an economic problem.

In fact, the distinction between righteousness and benefit is not a simple theoretical speculation, but a question of industry division of labor.

The whole social industry is divided into two parts, one is the industry of righteousness and the other is the industry of profit, and the two industries are clearly bounded and independent of each other, and direct contact is prohibited.

The industry of profit is all walks of life in the economic field, and the industry of righteousness is the moral industry, which does not engage in any economic industry, but only provides moral services, and this industry is the political industry.

And this industry, in ancient times, had a basic political principle: not to compete with the people for profit.

Serving the people is the most typical representative.

It is precisely because our country has always respected serving the people that we have performed in a unique way during the epidemic, which truly reflects our institutional advantages, theoretical advantages, road advantages and cultural advantages, and then truly demonstrates the four self-confidences. ”

After Liu Haotian finished saying his opinion, Liu Zilong, a top student in the Department of Philosophy, was speechless, because any point of view he wanted to refute would be refuted under Liu Haotian's statement just now.

At this time, Liu Haotian sneered and looked at Liu Zilong and said, "Liu Zilong, do you know why you are sitting here and being interrogated by the Commission for Discipline Inspection?" The reason is very simple, that is, because you have a wrong position in the distinction between righteousness and profit, or the academic error you choose, there is no problem with your recognition of Maslow's demand theory, and I also admit that Maslow's needs theory can indeed guide some industries to a certain extent, but you ignore a very key factor, that is, Maslow's needs theory is based on the social reality of the West, and the true essence of such a demand theory is to serve the imperialist capitalists, and to make the common people in the West willingly accept the exploitation of the capitalists。

Of course, we cannot deny that Maslow's theory of needs conforms to the general law of the development of individual human needs to a certain extent, and for those capitalists, businessmen, and salesmen, they grasp this law, which is very helpful for them to strengthen management. But that's about it.

But the tragedy is that you use Maslow's needs theory to discuss the distinction between righteousness and profit, so your tragedy is already predestined from the beginning. ”

After Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong was silent.

He also began to reflect in his heart, was he really wrong, was he really wrong about the academic ideas and theories he had studied for so many years? Was his academic thinking wrong, or was his personal choice wrong?

Just when Liu Zilong was thinking silently, Liu Haotian suddenly said: "Liu Zilong, I know why you refuse to explain your problems. ”

Liu Haotian's words brought Liu Zilong out of his thinking, and he looked at Liu Haotian with a frown.

Liu Haotian said lightly: "Don't you advocate Western academic thought, so today I will quote Fred Inbeh, one of the famous scholars in the field of criminal justice in the United States, to explain your motives at this moment, his original words are "Human beings generally do not take the initiative and spontaneously confess their crimes...... It is unrealistic to expect the perpetrator to confess his guilt without being touched by interrogation, because of the torture of conscience", Hans Gross, the originator of detective science, once said: It is cruel or at least inhumane to expect everyone to confess their crimes.

This is because it is impossible for the person being interrogated to easily give up his pursuit of interests under the condition of self-protection. ”

After Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong was stunned, at this moment, even Lu Minghao next to him was shocked by the original words of these big names in the criminal investigation industry that Liu Haotian had brought.

In his opinion, it is not surprising that he, as the deputy secretary of the county discipline inspection commission, has some understanding of these views, but Liu Haotian, a person who was born in science and engineering and has never worked in the discipline inspection commission system, is so familiar with these doctrines and has them at his fingertips, which is absolutely unusual.

If Lu Minghao was still a little dissatisfied and disdainful of Liu Haotian's interference in the affairs of the Commission for Discipline Inspection at the beginning, then at this moment, the two paragraphs that Liu Haotian just quoted have made Lu Minghao put away his contempt for Liu Haotian.

And at this time, Liu Haotian suddenly said: "Liu Zilong, in fact, you yourself know in your heart that no matter whether you confess the problem or not, as long as the evidence on our side is conclusive, we can completely transfer you to the judicial organs and directly convict you."

However, you are a person with great philosophical thinking ability, and I would like to have a good discussion with you, as far as you are concerned, it is more in your own interests to take the initiative to explain your own problems, or whether you refuse to confess and wait for our Discipline Inspection Commission to find out your problems before you are convicted. ”

Hearing Liu Haotian mention this problem, Liu Zilong smiled disdainfully: "Liu Haotian, you don't have to act with me here, I know that the fundamental purpose of your appearance here is to make me explain the problem, and I can tell you clearly now that it is impossible." ”

Liu Haotian smiled slightly: "Liu Zilong, how about we make a bet, within 20 minutes, you will definitely explain the problem." ”

Liu Zilong smiled with disdain: "Liu Haotian, don't dream, can you? Do you think I'm mentally retarded? Don't say it's 20 minutes, even if it's 200 minutes and 2,000 minutes, I can't let you get your wish." ”