Guan Yuntian never spends his time on useless idle talk, as Ye Jiayi said, if he takes the initiative to talk to others, it must be that he has some new ideas, and he uses the opportunity to talk to each other, either to reveal his thoughts, or to ask for the other party's opinions, in short, there is some kind of purpose.

After talking casually, he asked a very serious and broad question, and then the exchange around the problem made Guan Yuntian learn a lot of information from Tong Wei's analysis, and he not only experienced what is the "utilitarian" nature of research and development, but also had a general impression of the technical level of various fields in China.

The information learned from the media level often has certain limitations, but Dr. Tong, a professional with a high status, has a relatively comprehensive understanding and objective understanding of the overall situation of science and technology, and his evaluation should be relatively close to reality, and Guan Yuntian feels that such information has reference value.

When it comes to the utilitarian nature of scientific research and technological development, Guan Yuntian believes that this is caused by short-sightedness and backward concepts, and those fields that cannot cause a sensation and cannot bring great benefits in the short term cannot be carried out because they cannot be supported, let alone make much progress.

Although it is the responsibility of scientific researchers to persevere in their own research fields, without material support, it is tantamount to a dream to make progress in research and development based on interest and responsibility.

"Dr. Tong, both at the government level and various institutions with the ability to engage in scientific research and technological development, often talk about technological innovation, and it is true that great progress has been made in many fields over the years, but there are very few technologies that are truly original, what do you think is the reason for this?" Guan Yuntian threw out a second question.

"Mr. Guan, this question involves many aspects, and it is not clear in a few words. ”

"It's okay, just small talk, just personal opinions, no standard answers. ”

Tong Wei thought for a while and said: "I think there are three main reasons: first, innovation, especially originality, is indeed extremely difficult, which can be said to be unimaginable to outsiders; second, the foundation is weak and there is a lack of conditions for innovation; third, there is insufficient motivation and enthusiasm for innovation. Only one of these three disadvantages will be a huge obstacle to innovation, not to mention that all three factors come together, and the results can be imagined. ”

"The difficulty of innovation is self-evident, if it is easy, it is not called innovation, but the other two factors are not easy to understand. "Guan Yuntian said.

"Let's talk about the problem of weak foundation first, any technological innovation is not imaginary out of thin air, even if it is science fantasy, but all reasonable imagination has a scientific basis, and that kind of fantasy without basis belongs to rhapsody or random thinking. Returning to the topic of innovation, technological innovation must be based on solid basic research, and innovation without solid basic research is a tree without roots. It is precisely on this issue that in almost all fields, the domestic basic research work is not doing very well, and without a foundation, how can we talk about innovation?" said Dr. Tong.

"Aren't there colleges and universities and research institutes that specialize in basic research?"

"Not only there are, but there are many such institutions, but basic research is a thankless job, not only to endure loneliness, but also to have the spirit of sacrifice, some people have engaged in basic research all their lives, but the result is nothing, and finally obscurity. Some people work hard and devote themselves to research, even if they make a name for themselves, at most they publish papers in top journals a few times, and even if they get an award, there is no sensational effect. Moreover, people who engage in basic research are basically poor for life, and there is hardly much additional income except for salaries and a pitiful manuscript fee. So, a lot of them do basic research

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later moved on to applied research. ”

"Yes, people are very realistic, who wants to waste their wisdom and talents and be willing to be poor? I just don't know how those countries that have done well in basic research solve this problem?" Guan Yuntian said.

Tong Wei turned his head and glanced to the side, "Jiayi knows this question best, she has lived and studied in that environment, and she knows the situation better than me." ”

Ye Jiayi thought for a while, "Whether basic research is carried out well or not, I think it has a lot to do with the social atmosphere, in an environment where the whole society is very impetuous, naturally no one is willing to calm down and do thankless basic research, on the contrary, if the whole society is in a calm state, there must be people who can endure loneliness, after all, there are people with any character, and there is no shortage of people in any society who are willing to devote themselves to learning, the key depends on the social atmosphere." ”

"Yes, the word impetuousness is very appropriate! People are impetuous, they are certainly unwilling to sit down and think about problems, and society is impetuous, which is not conducive to making people sit down and think about problems. In other words, in countries with solid basic research, there is always a group of people who are willing to sit down and devote themselves to research. "Guan Yuntian said.

"Yes, on the one hand, in that kind of social environment, people's mentality is very calm, and they will not easily give up their ideals for the sake of profits; on the other hand, they are all doing research, there is no distinction between high and low, and they will not be sought after by others because you are doing information technology or aerospace exploration, and no one cares about what you do is the research of cell biology or new drugs. In such an atmosphere, there are people who are willing to do scientific research in all disciplines and fields, and finally achieve balanced development, and the leadership must be all-round, not just limited to a few so-called influential aspects. Dr. Tong said.

"Scientific research is a social activity after all, and it is inevitable to be influenced by public opinion, but in the current social atmosphere, many media treat scientific research like the entertainment industry, chasing hot spots and chasing stars, is this a bit too much?" Guan Yuntian said.

"Indeed, like the entertainment industry, hyping hot spots and chasing celebrities are all manifestations of social impetuousness, and engaging in research requires focus and low-key, putting researchers in the spotlight seems to be paying attention to them, but in fact, this behavior is disrespectful to scientific research. However, from a utilitarian point of view, some scientific researchers have indeed risen to the top and made a fortune through this way, and it is another matter how high the research results have reached. Ye Jiayi said.

"At the end of the day, the reasons for this state of affairs can be summed up in two words, one is impetuous, the other is utilitarian. Changda Group is in such an environment, I don't think it's impetuous, but utilitarianism is inevitable, what do you think?"

"After all, Changda Group is an enterprise based on the entity manufacturing industry, scientific research and development is a business carried out in recent years, impetuousness has nothing to do with us, as for utilitarianism, even in developed countries, the scientific research activities of enterprises are also carried out around their own needs and development needs, so the utilitarian nature of any enterprise's scientific research and development activities is understandable. Ye Jiayi said.

"Yes, because of the location, enterprises engage in scientific research, always according to their own needs to choose topics, which is normal in any society, no matter how rich Pfizer is, its research and development activities will only focus on the development of new drugs, and will never invest money in those fields that are not related to drugs. Although he has a lot of criticism about the utilitarian nature of scientific research policies, Tong Wei has a very good understanding of the scientific research activities of enterprises.

I just learned from Dr. Tong that the gap in the overall technological level of China is a bit unexpected, and it seems that in order to adapt the technological level to economic development, all personnel and institutions related to scientific research and technological development still have a long way to go!" Guan Yuntian sighed.

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After chatting for a long time, Ye Jiayi felt that what Guan Yuntian wanted to say hadn't been said yet, so she asked bluntly: "The small talk just now won't be just to understand the overall gap in technical level, right?"

This old partner for many years is also a very smart person, Guan Yuntian knows that Ye Jiayi will guess his thoughts, "Now that the whole company of Changda Group has achieved intelligent management, the company's management is much more relaxed, and finally has time to think about some problems, but I am not sure about some things, so I have to take the opportunity of today's meeting to use this time to communicate with you." ”

Ye Jiayi smiled, "In addition to communication, I think you should still have ideas, right?"

Guan Yuntian nodded and admitted, "With the efforts of Dr. Tong, since the Changda Group Technology Center has been established and the recycling technology of waste power batteries has been successfully developed, I think the Technology Center should grow together with Changda Group." ”

"That's a good idea, it seems that you already have a plan?" Ye Jiayi said.

"To be honest, I only have this desire, and I don't have a specific plan, so I invite you two to stay and chat today, just to hear your advice. I have said more than once before, want to make Changda Group a century-old enterprise, that is not a slogan, but my wish, after more than 20 years of development and growth, to now, I think the structure of the enterprise, management level, scale and efficiency and other factors, has laid a solid foundation for a century-old enterprise, but there is another link that makes me feel bottomless. "Guan Yuntian said.

"Which link are you referring to?"

"Through years of observation, I have found that all century-old enterprises in the physical manufacturing industry attach great importance to scientific research and development, and those enterprises have carried out their own research and development without exception. "Guan Yuntian said.

"Yes, if you don't have your own core technology, just by buying from the outside, the connection of products will go wrong sooner or later, even if such a company does well at that time, it has no vitality, and a century-old inheritance is just a dream. Ye Jiayi said.

Of course, Changda Group also recognized such drawbacks, not only introduced Dr. Tong, but also set up a technology center, and under the leadership of Dr. Tong, successfully developed the recycling technology of waste power batteries. However, in order to make the technology development center an important part of Changda Group, the existing scale and strength of the technology center are far from enough!"

"What do you mean is the next step to expand the technology center?"

"Large-scale hardware is a must, but on top of that, it's important to orient and position the technology center, which requires brainstorming. ”

Seeing that Ye Jiayi and Tong Wei were a little dazed, Guan Yuntian explained: "Dr. Tong mentioned earlier that Pfizer's scientific research institutions mainly focus on the research and development of new drugs, Changda Group has both pharmaceutical plates, and new materials such as high-capacity batteries.

Ye Jiayi said without hesitation: "If resources allow, I think the two should not be neglected, both are very important." First of all, these two sectors are the main business of Changda Group's physical manufacturing industry, from the perspective of development, whether it is new materials or new drugs, have strong vitality; secondly, Changda Group's physical manufacturing industry will focus on these two aspects of business in the future, and select topics around these two aspects in technology research and development, which can provide enterprises with a steady stream of products and technical support. ”

Guan Yuntian thought for a while and said: "In terms of resources, there is no problem with funds, the key is talent, the company's talents engaged in new drug research and development are basically blank now, even if the research and development of new materials, Dr. Tong is the technical director of the whole company, and the specific work cannot be completely counted on him!"

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