Chapter 137: Yuanxin's temperament
UMC gave Su Yuanshan a very high treatment.
Outside the door of the R&D center, Cao Chengxing took Lin Yonggu and others to greet him in person, which made Su Yuanshan quite surprised.
However, after thinking about it, he realized that his father also personally greeted the vice president of UMC last year, and his father was also a well-known professor and an expert in the field of single-chip microcomputers.
This face UMC is not a loss to itself.
After greetings, Cao Chengxing took Su Yuanshan to visit the R&D center, and then sat down in the living room to drink tea and chat.
After all, this time Su Yuanshan was nominally a courtesy visit, not to talk about business cooperation, so there was no need to be so formal.
"Mr. Cao, when will you go to the mainland to build a factory?"
After chatting about the current situation of semiconductors, and the two sides unanimously condemned Intel's arrogance, Su Yuanshan asked as if very casually.
Although Cao Chengxing is only in his fifties, he already has a lot of gray hair, and he smiled when he heard this: "Does Xiao Su always come as a lobbyist for the SAR government?"
"Hehe, it's not. Su Yuanshan said with a smile: "It's just that after all, this matter is led by my father, so I'll care about it." As for the SAR government, I didn't contact them this time, because I don't know how you're doing. It's just that my gut feels like this is going to be yellow. ”
"It's not like it's going to be yellow. Cao Chengxing said with a smile: "The main thing is that there are some agreements that have not reached consensus. ”
Su Yuanshan's heart moved.
That's a good way to say it...... This means that when it comes to trade secrets, you don't care.
But Su Yuanshan can't ignore it...... I can't go home empty-handed.
At the very least, you have to get a good idea.
So he immediately relied on his "youth" and became famous for his technology, pretending to be unsophisticated and said with a smile: "What agreement is so troublesome?
"Hmm......" Cao Chengxing said with a smile after pondering for a few seconds: "It's nothing, the Special Economic Zone wants us to build a state-of-the-art process, which is a bit contrary to our ideas." ”
Su Yuanshan immediately asked, "Then Mr. Cao's plan is to transfer it directly, or to build a new one?"
"It's easier to transfer. ”
Su Yuanshan nodded.
At present, UMC still has five factories, and if Cao Chengxing really wants to consider entering the mainland, then after the transfer, it should be four factories in one.
Cao Chengxing continued: "This way there is no trouble on our side, and it is easy to approve. ”
Su Yuanshan said with a smile: "It seems that the island is not as open as the mainland." Look at me, now I can open a branch in Silicon Valley, and EDA can sell if it wants to, and the government doesn't care about me at all. ”
Cao Chengxing laughed when he heard this.
I'm really embarrassed to say this kind of thing because of the policy restrictions.
"But if it's really just a disagreement on that, I can really help talk about it. Su Yuanshan also smiled: "I can reveal a piece of information to you, China will soon demand a large number of IC card chips - this large number is in billions." ”
Cao Chengxing's eyes froze when he heard this: "Are you serious?"
"It's hard to say, I can only tell you that you need a lot. Su Yuanshan said with a smile.
Cao Chengxing exhaled softly and couldn't help but groan again.
"So, if I were you. If you can't build the latest process, at least you have to transfer a few lines of production lines......"
Su Yuanshan paused and continued: "Let's put it this way, you are a veteran of the semiconductor industry, and you must know that the ability of the semiconductor industry to resist risks is actually to look at the ability to resist memory price fluctuations. ”
Cao Chengxing nodded slowly.
Of course, he knows that there is a saying in the semiconductor industry that "those who get memory win the world".
Because there is only one CPU chip, there is also only one graphics card chip, and one memory ...... There are a few or even a dozen!
It can be said that almost half of the world's wafer fabs are used for memory particles.
Therefore, once you encounter a semiconductor trough, the first thing that will be affected is memory. Or, flipping around, the capacity of memory is enough to affect the entire semiconductor industry.
At this time, the main production capacity is memory fabs, if they lack the ability to resist risks, then bankruptcy is a matter of minutes.
For example, in the last decade, the price of DRAM fell from $4 per piece in early 1984 to 30 cents per piece in 1985, and this cold winter directly led to Intel's withdrawal from the memory market.
"And, just from the point of view of resisting the cyclical trough of semiconductors, it is also more advantageous to put it on the mainland than on the island. At least...... It's cheap. Su Yuanshan said with a smile.
Cao Chengxing exhaled lightly and said with a smile: "Yes." ”
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Seeing Su Yuanshan pedal into the car and leave, Cao Chengxing frowned and pondered.
After a while, he looked back at Lin Yonggu: "Yonggu, what kind of person is this Xiao Su?"
"Very smart. Lin Yonggu smiled, thought for a moment and added: "There is no doubt that he is a genius in integrated circuit design. The real kind - so much so that he didn't bother to study related majors in college anymore, and went to study physics instead. And it is said that he also taught himself physics all the time. ”
"Well, I know. Cao Chengxing nodded: "But it is precisely because he is so smart that I think he has any additional ideas for us to land on the mainland so eagerly......
Lin Yonggu thought for a while and said: "I guessed, in fact, his idea is to promote the landing of the wafer factory on the mainland. He is right, the demand for chips in the mainland is indeed huge. ”
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Sitting in the car, Su Yuanshan's brows furrowed deeply.
He probably guessed that the SAR did not want to introduce the most advanced ones, but just opened up a good talk. The ultimate goal is to let UMC build a second-class one.
For example, 0.8 microns, this creates a guiding effect.
For the semiconductor industry, the Special Zone still has a lot of ideas.
But the government did not take into account that for a long time, even in the next 30 years, the biggest problem in China is not the top process, but local production.
As the largest developing country, the domestic demand for the most chips is growing exponentially. For a long time, the first major category of domestic imports is chips!
Of course, it wasn't until Su Yuanshan's old club was choked that everyone realized, oh...... It turns out that if we don't have our own technology, we can only import everything.
"What you said just now is true?" Chen Jing glanced at Su Yuanshan and asked softly.
"You said that a lot of chips are needed in China?"
"Hmm. ”
"It's true. Su Yuanshan smiled: "The domestic thirst for chips and wafer factories is beyond your imagination." As long as it is built, it will definitely make money. ”
"Then why don't you build it?"
"Because our pursuit is different. Su Yuanshan closed his eyes and said: "Yuanxin's money is either invested in basic research and development, or used to buy the most advanced manufacturing process, in short, it will not buy products that are behind the times." ”
"That doesn't match the temperament of the far core. ”
“......”
"Isn't it quite speechless?" Su Yuanshan closed his eyes, and a smile appeared on the corner of his mouth.
Chen Jing pursed her lips and smiled: "A little, but I agree." Yuanxin is to have an unusual temperament. ”
"Thanks for the recognition. ”