Hu Mingchen's voice was very loud, coupled with his urgent initiative, which immediately attracted Qiu Cuizheng's attention.

Qiu Cuizheng is not teaching first-year undergraduates now, so he has no impression of Hu Mingchen at all, but since Hu Mingchen wants to get this last chance so much, he has such a strong initiative, he doesn't mind giving him this opportunity.

The so-called opportunity is won by oneself, and this is the performance.

"Okay, you are so hopeful, this opportunity will be given to you, what do you want to ask Professor Hu?" After glancing at Hu Mingchen, Qiu Cui said.

"Thank you, Professor Qiu, Professor Hu, I am a first-year student in the Department of Economics of Langzhou University, my question is very simple, I just listened to your eyes from beginning to end and the answers to the questions of my classmates, and I have an intuitive impression that you don't look down on it, or you don't plant real industries, such as industrial manufacturing, but have a soft spot for the real estate industry, do you think our country can be deindustrialized, do you think that the real estate industry can become our economic pillar? In addition, it is said that you have also participated in the design of the country's medium- and long-term planning, do you think your thinking is beneficial to the country at this stage?" Hu Mingchen took the microphone handed over by the staff and asked aloud after a little deep groaning.

Listening to Hu Mingchen's question, Qiu Cuizheng's eyes flashed in obvious surprise, while Professor Hu, who was sitting, frowned.

Obviously, Hu Mingchen is doubting Professor Hu's thinking and level.

Hu Mingchen also said at the beginning that his question was relatively simple, but in fact, it was a simple fart, and his question was very aggressive. On the one hand, Professor Hu has to show his level, and on the other hand, he has to show his bearing. If Hu Mingchen is criticized and criticized as soon as he comes up because he is unhappy, it will not only seem that his level is not very good, but he will also have little energy and will not be able to listen to the slightest suspicion of opposition.

An undergraduate student who has not even scratched the surface of economics dares to doubt his views and theories in public, and he will not be able to accept it anyway.

"This classmate, I don't know if it's because of your understanding or if my expression is not clear enough. First of all, I didn't say that I would give up industrialization, and I didn't say that I didn't pay attention to the real economy. But then again, since you're asking such a question, we can talk about it. At present, our country is recognized by the United Nations as the country with the most complete range of industries, from small screws and buttons, to large rockets and airplanes, we can manufacture. This shows that our industrialization and manufacturing industry have made proud achievements that have attracted worldwide attention. But in today's increasingly detailed international division of labor, do we really need to master so many industrial categories? Do we need to participate in production from the lowest end to the highest end?"

"In my opinion, it is not necessary, the reason is very simple, when a country's economic development reaches a certain level, it must do industrial upgrading, to put it simply, it is to go to the middle and high-end, and the low-end is to slowly give up. There is a common trend and standard in the world, that is, all developed countries, whether it is rice or Dongying, whether it is Western Europe or Northern Europe, these developed economies, who still do low-end industries? ”

"In this sense, it is imperative for us to abandon some of the low-end manufacturing industry, or even turn the low-end manufacturing industry away. Our land, water environment, and atmospheric environment do not allow us to develop low-end manufacturing anymore. If that's the case, then I admit that I'm in favor of abandoning industrialization. Only by engaging in high-end manufacturing and service industries can we increase people's incomes. ”

"I've mentioned the service sector here, so I'll talk a little bit more about that. As I said just now, all developed countries are only engaged in mid-to-high-end manufacturing, but in fact, they also have a characteristic, that is, the proportion of the service industry will be very high, even as high as 80 percent, and the primary and secondary industries will be reduced to 20 percent. For example, the tertiary industry such as the financial industry, the cultural industry, the modern service industry, etc., not only has high profits, but also accepts a large number of employed people. Looking forward from this angle, it is imperative for us to expand the proportion of the tertiary industry and reduce the primary and secondary industries. ”

"Secondly, let me talk about the real estate industry, you are a college student who has just entered the university, and I think it is understandable that you are not clear about the real estate industry. You know, the real estate industry is related to hundreds of industries, such as construction, steel, home appliances, furniture, and even automobiles, etc., which are all real real economies. If we say that the real estate industry is an important foundation for our economic development, I don't agree with it, but I agree and support the real estate industry as the locomotive that leads the economy. At present, the contribution of the real estate industry to the economy is very high, which is really indispensable. Moreover, the real estate industry has also solved the big problem of ordinary people living and working in peace and contentment, if they don't even have a place to live, how can they talk about anything else. At present, there is a budding voice saying that we want to control the real estate industry, and I do not share it, and in the market economy, it is up to the market to decide the allocation of production factors and the choice of the masses of the people. ”

"I answer and explain like this, I don't know if you understand, if you can understand?" Finally, Professor Hu also asked rhetorically.

Just when everyone thought that this was the end, Hu Mingchen unceremoniously stood up and replied and slapped Professor Hu in the face.

"Professor Hu, I can understand and understand your answer, but I don't fully agree with it. ”

"Oh, don't agree, hehe, why don't you agree? Am I wrong? Professor Hu, who was quite surprised, sneered and asked Hu Mingchen teasingly.

"I don't dare to be the axe, but I can express my views and opinions, I will first say your last sentence, let the people make a choice, but in fact, the people do not have the right to choose, the people can choose is higher and higher housing prices, in addition, you tell me, can we choose anything else? Look at our big cities, the so-called prosperity, a large part of it is built up by real estate, but the working class, many people are suffering, I am afraid they can't afford to buy a house. In addition, the excessive development of real estate, especially the close connection with the financial industry, has actually laid a huge foundation for our economic development. Let's look back at the example of Dongying, since the Plaza Agreement, their housing prices have been pushed up to an unprecedented level, the price of real estate in the small Dongying can buy the entire United States, but in fact, what is it? As soon as the balloon burst, Dongying couldn't get up for ten years, and it was immediately beaten back to its original shape. ”

"We now have a deformed phenomenon, a factory with hundreds of people, its annual profit may not be worth the benefit of speculating in a house. You just said that the real estate industry involves so many industries, so let me ask you, how many industries are associated with a manufacturing factory? And if the people engaged in these industries don't bother to start a business, all their funds are invested in the real estate industry, and they can benefit greatly through property speculation, what will be the consequences? I can say very clearly, very serious, unimaginable, the real direct creation of wealth is the primary industry and manufacturing, if there is no support in the front, behind is the building built on the beach, a wave hit, can collapse at any time. ”

"This involves the issue of the proportion of the tertiary industry, and I think we can appropriately increase the proportion of the tertiary industry, but such a proportion is not obtained by compressing the primary and secondary industries. I have always believed that industrialization is the foundation of a strong country, and without this trunk, the branches and leaves on it would wither and wither. ”

"Professor Hu, you just kept mentioning the developed countries in the West, and it seems that we have to follow the same path as them. I also disagree with this, we can learn from their experience, but we can't copy it, because there are huge differences in national conditions. We have a population of more than a billion people, and the total population of the West is not as large as ours, and the issue of employment is our core issue, and industrialization can not only provide stable jobs, but also guarantee the wages of workers to a considerable extent. I don't deny that the service sector provides a lot of jobs, but it doesn't provide that many high-paying jobs. I know that you may want to talk about high incomes in the West, but as I have already said, population is our capital, but it is also a hard injury. A waiter in a restaurant may never earn more than an engineer. ”

"Let's put it this way, not only am I not in favor of deindustrialization, but I also encourage greater industrialization. To borrow a point from which you like to refer to the West, all the developed countries in the West have won in the field of industrialization and become developed countries. We are still a developing country, and it is simply absurd for a developing country to talk about deindustrialization, to vigorously develop waiters, and even to pin economic development on real estate, which will bring disaster to each and every one of us. ”

The more Hu Mingchen talked, the more he couldn't stop the car, and the more he talked, the more he talked. Although Professor Hu stole a lot of concepts, Hu Mingchen still refuted his views.

The original lecture, but in the back, it seemed to have become a debate between Hu Mingchen and Professor Hu.

Hu Mingchen's rebuttal made many students present smack, while some of the students, together with Qiu Cuizheng, fell into thought.