Holding Center International, this is, of course, a joke.

Zhang Rujing doesn't want to do online games, and Chen Yu doesn't want to control Center International.

He has little experience in chip foundry.

At this time, he still has to rely on Zhang Rujing and TSMC to make a hard bar.

However, Chen Yu has no idea about Center International, but he is extremely interested in the upstream industry of chip manufacturing.

As we all know, chip manufacturing starts with chip architecture design.

This one is relatively simple, you just need to design a usable chip architecture.

This is soft technology, and it is enough to smash people and money.

Of course, the simplicity here is actually that there is an ARM architecture in front, you have to design and directly take their license, and then develop on this basis. But it's a bit difficult to come up with your own architecture and make it available to everyone around the world. But this piece of Huanyu Technology has been laid out, and Chen Yu is not particularly worried.

The real concern is chip manufacturing.

Strictly speaking, Center International and TSMC are not the core manufacturing departments.

They are actually not much different from ordinary electronic foundries.

It's just that they are OEM more high-end products, chips.

But in the process of chip foundry, a series of devices need to be purchased.

Some of the other devices are okay.

Like single crystal furnaces, oxidation furnaces, polishing machines, etching machines, ion implanters...... These can be done in China.

I don't dare to say that the performance is the best in the world, but at least it can keep up with the team.

But in this, the most complex lithography machine can only be imported.

Of course, it does not mean that there are no lithography machines in China. The domestic electronic technology group, Shanghai Machinery Factory can still produce lithography machines. However, this lithography machine is just in its infancy, and the chips produced can be used on DVDs at most.

And high-end electronic chips such as mobile phones can only use foreign lithography machines.

Among them, the most cutting-edge and top-notch lithography machine of the Dutch ASML company is out of them.

If it was a previous life, it would be very difficult for Chen Yu to break this game.

Even if it is to be broken, I don't know how many years later.

But at present, although the lithography machine of the Dutch ASML company is very good, the lithography machine technology of several other countries is also not bad.

For example, Nikon's lithography machine in Japan, Canon's lithography machine, Lam Research Semiconductor Company in China, and Suss Company in Germany.

The lithography machines produced by these companies are among the mainstream lithography machines in the world.

As for why ASML's lithography machine has not dominated the world, it is completely because the current mobile phone has not developed to a certain height.

In the era when smartphones have not yet appeared, the general market demand for mobile phone chips is not very large.

This demand is not only the demand for quantity, but also the demand for quality.

Just like now, Huanyu Technology has made Tianwen chips.

To be honest, the performance parameters of this Tianwen chip are very average, and the only advantage is that it integrates a multimedia system.

However, in the era of feature phones, everyone does not have such high requirements for the performance of chips.

It's useless to have such a high demand?

The operating system of the feature phone is so simple, just make phone calls, take pictures, and at most make a small game.

Such an operating system can be done by an undergraduate.

With a low-level operating system like this, he doesn't need advanced chips at all.

And Tianwen chips are selling extremely hot in such a market.

At the same time, as long as the Tianwen chip is installed, it can defeat other mobile phones.

In the same way, Center International does not need to import such an awesome lithography machine, he can make such an ordinary Tianwen chip.

But if smartphones appear, smartphones have higher and higher requirements for the performance of chips. Then, chip manufacturers can only use more sophisticated chips.

Then at this time, the time for Europe and the United States to pinch your neck will come.

Chen Yu pondered carefully.

At this time, the strength of the major lithography machine companies is about the same, and at most ASML companies are better, but this is not so good. At the same time, none of these companies have really entered the field of extreme ultraviolet lithography. The lithography machine developed with this technology is the most cutting-edge EUV lithography machine in the previous life.

If Chen Yu enters at this time, there is really a little hope.

......

"Dean, there's something I want to discuss with you. ”

"Okay, I'll go to your office. ”

After receiving a call from Chen Yu, Li Biqing rushed to Chen Yu's office as soon as possible.

Li Biqing knew that in general, Chen Yu would not look for him.

Looking for him, there must be something important.

"Chen Yu, what's the matter?"

As soon as he entered the door, Li Biqing asked.

"Dean, why are you so serious, come, drink saliva first. ”

"You kid, didn't you call me over for tea. ”

"Of course, there is something to do, but don't take it so seriously. ”

At this time, Dean Li Biqing had no specific responsibilities in Huanyu Technology.

More often, Li Biqing is acting as a senior technical consultant for Huanyu Technology.

For example, the layout of the chip, as well as handling a small number of public relations affairs.

"Say, if you don't say it, I'm not interested in drinking tea. ”

"Dean, you're really ......"

Chen Yu had no way to take Li Biqing.

"Actually, nothing, Dean, do you have any research on lithography machines?"

"There's a fart study. ”

Li Biqing shook his head directly: "I am the retired dean of the computer department of Shencheng University, do you have research on all my technologies?"

"Well, Dean, I'm just asking you what you think of the lithography machine. ”

"If you want to talk about lithography machines, it's pretty much the same. ”

Li Biqing said: "What, Chen Yu, do you want to play the idea of a lithography machine?"

"I made a phone call with Zhang Rujing earlier, and he said that it cost hundreds of millions of dollars just to buy a lithography machine. I'm not worried about money, if we can also get a lithography machine, do you say that these hundreds of millions of yuan will be saved?"

"I'll go, you kid has a lot of appetite, and you want to get a lithography machine. ”

Li Biqing was extremely surprised.

It's just that Chen Yu even wants to engage in chips and operating systems.

It seems understandable to engage in lithography machines in the upstream industry related to chips.

"I think forget it, the lithography machine technology is too different from foreign countries, we just want to do it, and there is no drama. ”

Although there is not much technical research on lithography machines, Li Biqing still knows about lithography machines.

"Dean, it's just that the distance between us and foreign countries is too big, that's why I want to do it. If it's not that different, I don't want to do it yet. ”

Chen Yu's thinking has always been different from others.

Li Biqing originally wanted to persuade Chen Yu, but suddenly felt that Chen Yu's words were really reasonable.

"It makes sense, but this part is not so easy to enter, and I will contact several domestic companies that manufacture lithography machines. ”

"No, I'm not interested in them. ”

It's not that Chen Yu is really not interested in those companies, but Chen Yu knows.

Even in 2020, these companies have not made a decent lithography machine.

"And what do you mean?"

Li Biqing asked puzzled.

"I mean, look at some foreign lithography machine companies, do they need to invest. ”

"Investment...... Chen Yu, you are here again, where did you get so much money. These lithography machine companies have to invest tens of billions of dollars at every turn, and you still owe so many foreign debts, banks, central international, and chips are still being developed and researched. ”

In fact, Li Biqing is also a little worried about the current Huanding Technology.

Originally, it was no problem to engage in the Internet.

It's no problem to go from the internet to your phone.

But from the mobile phone to the chip, from the mobile phone to the operating system, to the computer, to the chip foundry...... Although it can't be said that there is a problem with this. But at the very least, all of these require huge sums of money. Moreover, each of these areas requires huge investment, but it is difficult to have any return in the early stage.

Like the foundry business of Center International, don't look at the current business of Center International, but in fact, it has not been profitable.

Not only do they not make money, but they also lose money.

A capacity expansion, which will be smashed into 3 billion.

In the future, we will have to upgrade our technology, and I don't know how much investment there is.

When you really make money, you don't know if it's the Year of the Monkey.

Chen Yu is naturally clear about this.

Seeing Li Biqing's worries, Chen Yu said: "Dean, you don't have to worry about the funds. Since I want to enter these fields, I naturally have a way to raise money. Otherwise, I also know that if I take too big a step, it is easy to pull the egg. ”

"Pulling the egg...... You kid, swear in front of my old man. ”

Li Biqing said with a smile.

"Well, Dean, that's what it means anyway. ”

"Now that you've thought it through, I can help you find out first. Don't think too much about it, though. One of the foreign companies that can produce lithography machines is in Japan, one in Germany, and the other in the Netherlands...... Even if you have money, they may not accept your investment. ”

"Not necessarily, let's see how the market goes. ”

"Okay. ”

Discuss it with Li Biqing.

Chen Yu went to the game department of Huanyu Technology again.

At present, Huanyu Technology is under a lot of financial pressure, and Chen Yu attaches great importance to the game.

Although the campaign is already very profitable now, Chen Yu feels that he can make more money.

And this way to make money is the most classic strategy in the game: the countryside surrounds the city.