As for the rural land distribution system, Li Songchen proposed that the land should be directly implemented in the public ownership system, that is, the land should first be collected by the government of the crossing group, and then the government would distribute the land to the peasants for cultivation, but the peasants only had the right to use the land, and did not have the ownership of the land.

This point also caused a lot of controversy, Jia Zhenzhao puzzled: "Is it too early to implement the public ownership of land now, of course, I am not against the public ownership of land, but in the old time and space, our ancestors did not implement the public ownership of land system at the beginning, but directly distributed land to the peasants, and it was not until after obtaining the political power of the whole country that the reform of the public ownership of land began to be implemented, so should we also learn from these experiences." ”

Zhao Rui, vice minister of the Ministry of Finance, also said: "As far as I know, as far as the current land situation in Tianjin is concerned, there are still some peasants who have their own land, and if we implement the public ownership of land now, although the peasants still have the right to use the land, it is not as good as the ownership rights, so they may not be willing to accept the public ownership of the land, and our current prestige is not enough, and the forced implementation of the public ownership of the land will not provoke a backlash from the peasants, which is not conducive to our rule." ”

At present, the crossing group has not set up a land-related department, so the land distribution system is currently the responsibility of the Ministry of Agriculture, which is said to have nothing to do with the Ministry of Finance, but the rural tax system is closely related to the land distribution system, and it is also related to the basis of the ruling of the crossing group, and the Ministry of Finance is quite concerned about the land distribution system, which is also reasonable.

Li Songchen nodded, and said: "Your worries are reasonable, but I propose the implementation of public ownership of land, and it is not a one-size-fits-all system, according to my tune, the land in Tianjin is now roughly divided into two situations, one is that farmers have their own land, and the other is because of the war, the abandoned land, which can basically be regarded as ownerless land, and the self-owned land is only a very small part, and this part of the land can be temporarily moved, while the other ownerless land is all collected as public ownership and distributed by the government in a unified manner. In this way, the main body of the land system is public ownership, and a small part of private land can be slowly converted into public ownership through policy guidance and in the form of compensation. Even if it does not become fully public, a very small amount of private land will not affect the overall situation. Not only in Tianjin, but also in other places, such as after we occupied Shandong, the same land distribution system can be applied. ”

Zhu Nanzhen, another vice minister of the Ministry of Finance, frowned and said: "The situation in Tianjin is very special, because the invasion of the Eight-Nation Alliance caused a large number of people to flee, so there is a large amount of ownerless farmland, but there is no such good thing in other places, the land is owned by the owner, how can we implement the public ownership of land?"

Li Songchen said: "At this point, we can learn from the practice of the old time and space, that is, to fight the local tyrants and divide the land, according to the historical situation of the old time and space, as well as the situation I understand, the land annexation situation in this era is very serious, most of the land is occupied by the landlords, and the homesteaders are only a very few, so as long as we take the land of the landlords and tyrants and collect it for public ownership, we can basically ensure that the public ownership of land is the main body." ”

After a pause, Li Songchen said again: " We do have advanced science and technology, but we also lack sufficient funds and motivation for development, and this era is an era in which the law of the jungle is rampant, and the imperialist countries will not give us enough time for peaceful development, so if China wants to develop rapidly, the only way to do so is to take the vast majority of the land into state ownership, and the state will directly manage the rural areas, eliminate the landlord class, and incorporate the income from the exploitation of the landlords into the agricultural tax, which will be owned by the state treasury, and of course a part will be left for the peasants, and then use the scissors difference of the agricultural industry to invest all kinds of resources collected from the rural areas into industrial construction and develop industry, so that the fruits of industry can be used to feed back agricultureThere is absolutely no second way to achieve the all-round development of the whole of China. This is also the historical experience of the old plane. ”

In the old time and space, from the moment they embarked on the armed seizure of power, the ancestors of the time-travelers actively carried out the land reform movement, confiscated the land of the landlord class, and distributed it to the landless peasants, which greatly stimulated the labor enthusiasm of the peasants, and also allowed the ancestors of the time-traveler to win the support of the vast number of peasants, and finally achieved a comprehensive victory. Both the winners and losers of this war admit that the factors of land reform are actually greater than the battlefield factors.

However, because the land reform movement at that time did not separate the ownership and use rights of land, so there were many imperfections, and in the early days of the founding of New China, the land in the rural areas was occupied without compensation, and the situation of indiscriminate occupation and excessive occupation occurred from time to time, and even a new round of land annexation also had a rising trend, so from 1953 to 1956, China carried out another land reform, and only then did it formally confirm the public ownership of land and completely separate the ownership and use rights of land.

In the decades that followed, China's land system underwent many adjustments, further improving land contract management rights, allowing farmers to transfer land contract management rights in the form of subcontracting, leasing, swapping, transferring, and shareholding cooperation, and developing various forms of moderately large-scale operations. Where conditions permit, large-scale business entities such as large specialized households, family farms, and specialized farmer cooperatives may be developed. However, the circulation of land contract management rights does not change all the nature of the land, and the use of the land must not be changed, thus fundamentally severing land annexation.

Of course, after the founding of New China, the land reform movement became a key target for some malicious commentators and losers, saying that before taking power, they distributed land to the peasants in order to win the hearts and minds of the people, but after seizing political power, they immediately turned their faces and denied it, and took the land from the peasants again, and even blamed the land system of New China due to the limited nature of domestic production and the food shortage caused by natural disasters.

In fact, the land reform movement after the founding of the People's Republic of China was a supplement to the previous land reform movement, and the two were inseparable.

Therefore, Li Songchen proposed that since the experience of the old time and space proved that it was necessary to implement public ownership of land in China, then it was necessary to directly take the land into state ownership, and even if it was not possible to take all the land into state ownership at once, the vast majority of the land should be taken into state ownership and then redistributed to the peasants.

After listening to Li Songchen's explanation, although everyone did not fully agree, it was not good to say anything, after all, the land system is not within the purview of the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Personnel, so let the Executive Committee decide.

According to Li Songchen's proposal, the distribution of land is not based on households, but according to population, and each adult laborer can be divided into five acres of land, minors over the age of 10 can be divided into three acres of land, and when they reach adulthood, they can be divided into two acres. In this way, according to the calculation of five to six members of a household, about 20 acres of land can be divided, and the life of one household can be basically guaranteed

The land use right can be set for life, but it cannot be subcontracted, leased, exchanged, transferred, and the owner of the land use right changes, if the owner of the land use right forms a new household registration due to marriage or separation, the land will also change, and if the owner of the land use right dies or violates the relevant laws, the land use right will be taken over as state ownership and redistributed. If there is a new member of the family, after reaching the age of 10, they can also apply to the township government for land allocation.

Peasants' own land has ownership and can subcontract, lease, exchange, or transfer at their own discretion, but the object of exchange can only be other self-owned land, and when the self-owned land is transferred, the government has the priority right to acquire it. However, if the self-owned land does not meet the standard of land allocation, it can also apply to the township government and get supplementation, but the supplementary land only has the right to operate, but not ownership.

The tax system in the rural areas is currently temporarily using the method of land tax in kind, this is because the group does not have its own currency in circulation, and there is no special agricultural acquisition management department, and China's financial system and monetary system are very chaotic in this era, so it is better to use the way of land tax in kind.

Whether it is self-owned land or state-owned land, 40% of the income from the real estate harvest is uniformly collected, and it is collected at one time, and there is no other tax or post-service, and the rest after paying the tax can be handled by the peasants themselves, but the government has the right of first refusal. This tax standard is also made with reference to the current situation of peasants' incomes in Tianjin, and the taxes paid by ordinary peasants generally exceed 50 percent, while some hired peasants even pay more than 60 percent, so the tax revenue of 40 percent has actually reduced the peasants' burden considerably.

The Ministry of Finance has no objection to the tax standards set by Li Songchen, because the Ministry of Finance urgently needs a stable source of income, otherwise the Ministry of Finance will have no value. On the other hand, in the previous battles, although the crossing group seized a huge amount of wealth, more than 6 million taels of silver, and hundreds of thousands of currencies of various countries, but as a regime, this wealth is not much, and industrial construction requires a lot of capital investment, just ten years ago, Zhang Zhidong founded the Hanyang Iron Works in Hanyang, which lasted four years, and the cumulative investment of more than 5 million taels of silver, which can be more than 6 million taels of silver, and thrown into industrial construction, at most it can only be heard. Therefore, through the development of the group itself, it also needs a stable source of income.

The talks continued until about 12 o'clock in the evening, but all sides basically achieved their goals, so they were all satisfied.