In the topic of meager hot search, there must be more than one person to point out that the Phoenix Fund is bragging.

Almost everyone who knows a little bit about chips understands how difficult it is to establish a chip industry chain!

The chips discussed now are basically the default mobile phone CPU processing chips. Server-side chips are rarely discussed. Because mobile phones are now everyone's connected electronic devices.

First of all, we must understand China's gap in the semiconductor industry. We have progress, but it is not only the CPU chips that are missing, but also the ADC chips, baseband chips, etc. Even the most basic capacitors and resistors in electronic components have a gap.

People who do electronic components business in coastal areas probably know that high-end electronic components must not be made in China. Its service life is not up to standard. In other words, inferior quality. You have to use foreign goods.

Secondly, what is the most desperate thing in the field of chip manufacturing? is that we lack the tools to design chips (EDA), and we lack the machines to make chips (such as lithography machines, etc.). As long as the engineers involved in the chip industry are estimated to be aware of some key and necessary tools, there are no domestic tools.

But why do so many people point out the mistakes and brag of the Phoenix Fund, but Ren Zhi's comments are on the top?

The question is a bit delicate. Why did no one comment on your clockwork circle of friends. And some people simply post a picture, and it is forwarded and liked everywhere?

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Hua Shan finished the company's affairs, cooked an omelette, poured two glasses of milk, took the tray, and walked barefoot to the beach.

She is 1.76 meters tall and wears a close-fitting champagne-colored off-the-shoulder dress, which makes her skin fairer and her figure slender and slender. The face is delicate and bright, and it is outstanding.

"What news are you watching?smiling so happily?" Hua Shan sat next to Ren Zhi, handed him the milk, and said, "I've consumed a bit too much these days, so I'll make up for it." ”

Ren Zhi has a quieter temperament, but he can't help but retort: "No matter how much you consume, you can satisfy your appetite." ”

He and Hua Shan, a big beauty, had already done it while vacationing in Palm Beach, USA. He is a person who pursues perfection. And Hua Shan is not the beginning. He was a little depressed about it.

Hua Shan said dissatisfiedly: "I went to the United States to study in high school, and I was 23 years old, how could I not have met an excellent man." Why do you look like a little boy who doesn't grow up? I'm not your girlfriend. You have no right to interfere in my private affairs. ”

She is deeply influenced by neoliberal ideology.

"And what are we now?"

"I think you're excellent. Moreover, we have had a great time together. You want it, I want it, just together. You want me to be your girlfriend? I don't necessarily agree with that. I've got to examine you. ”

He and Hua Shan had a bit of an unpleasant quarrel in Palm Beach. But in the end, they reconciled, and he took Hua Shan to continue his vacation to Brazil. Sleep together every day and do what you need to do.

Hua Shan covered her mouth and smiled, leaned over to look at Ren Zhi who was half-lying on the beach chair, and said in a low voice: "Don't brag." ”

Ren Zhi saw all her balls, and immediately "hotly blooded", hugged this independent and beautiful girl in his arms and kissed her.

Ten minutes later, Ren Zhi and Hua Shan were happily lying in the spacious beach chairs, the two of them hugged each other like glue, feeling that their two hearts were sticking together. The taste of love is sweet. That's when I got to the topic.

Ren Zhi said smugly: "I can't see the Phoenix Fund's boastful appearance, scolding them by commenting on the meager and winning a round of applause." Hey. ”

"I'll see. ”

Ren Zhi turned on his phone and looked at it with Hua Shan, "Oh, someone @ me." ”

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In the presidential suite of the Atlantis Hotel, Itaka was in the sofa in the living room, looking at the highly rated "Let Me Go 1911" comment that served as a reasonable guest, and felt very unhappy.

First of all, the "draft" given by the Phoenix Fund to Handong Province and Taiwan, it must be bragged about in it. It's conventional. As a result, now people are taking them out one by one and pressing them on the ground to rub them, picking thorns.

He was upset. Could it be that he writes about emotional remarks on the Internet and scolds people without scruples, he knows. But this is the first time this has happened. After all, he didn't write an online article, but just watched the authors of the online article being scolded.

Fuck, I don't blow my goals or feelings in the draft, do I have to talk about the details little by little? Then why am I going to the provincial station? Do you see? Isn't it good for me to open a post in a well-known community to talk to you?

Secondly, he very much dislikes this kind of "rational guest" tone. This is purely methodologically problematic.

According to the materialist methodology, things need to be looked at dialectically. There is a good side and a bad side. However, in the end, we must come to a general conclusion, whether it is good or bad! These so-called "rational customers" seem to be rational, neutral, and objective, but in fact they magnify the bad side and then come to a conclusion.

The most typical example is the "China collapse theory".

There are even some "rational customers" who are not at a high level, and they will say directly: Don't just because so-and-so is a professor, what he said is right.

What is the subtext of this sentence? You have to listen to my analysis! Then, your analysis is more clever than that of other professors? Not necessarily? It is just taking advantage of the rebellious psychology of Internet readers towards "professors" and "authorities." But some people eat this set very much.

Whether a matter is analyzed well or not depends not on the individual's identity, but on the specific analysis logic and deconstruction!

As a result, your methodology and logical structure can't even touch the edge of Professor Shen. is still forced to write unashamedly: "There are dozens of likes, I am very pleased." There are always some independent thinkers, not everyone else. ”

Do you call nonsense "independent thinking"?

Idaka is now disgusted with this "Let Me Do 1911". It is necessary to recognize the gap between China's chip industry and the beautiful country. But what is the conclusion that you have come to in the end? This is not going to work! We have to beg the beautiful country to sell us the equipment.

You're fucking calcium deficient!

I like to kneel so much.

Jing Gao replied directly in the meager mobile phone: "Why can't we build a lithography machine." The lithography machine of Modu Microelectronics was eaten by you. ”

Let Me Go 1911: "I'm talking about high-end lithography machines. The most advanced lithography machine of Modu Microelectronics is 90nm, and Asmail's lithography machine has now reached 7nm and 5nm. ”

Eat grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "How many years has Asmael made lithography machines? How many years have China made lithography machines? Why do you conclude that we will not be able to make high-end lithography machines in five or ten years? Is there a gap, and we are not allowed to catch up?"

This is the number of Idaka. He didn't certify a "chairman of the Phoenix Fund" or anything on a meager basis.

Let Me Do 1911: "Hehe, that's funny. Do you know how many parts there are in a lithography machine? 50,000 of them? How many hours will it take for you to tackle the problems yourself? Will Asmail's technology stop where it will not progress?

Now is the era of globalization, the division of labor in the global industrial chain. Every country, every business has its own unique skills to make profits.

The modern chip industry has a mature industrial chain, which is monopolized by several companies. As a novice to the three noes, how much time does he plan to spend catching up with the system that people have built up with marketization in the past twenty or thirty years?"

Eat grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "Phoenix Fund has said that it is not afraid of losses." Do it with all your might. ”

Let Me Do 1911: "Brother, are you here to be funny? This is a technical field, and you have to talk about the laws of physics, and you can't solve it with empty words here." Is this a loss-making thing? Others have a first-mover advantage, but they just can't catch up.

I'll give you an example. Do you know what is the talent gap in China in the field of integrated circuits? The most preliminary estimate is 200,000.

The chip industry chain has to go through at least 40 links from tool and IP selection to different module design, manufacturing, packaging and testing. This involves materials, physics, chemistry, mechanics, optics, computers, radio, software and other disciplines.

In 09 years, China approved a total of 20 colleges and universities, such as Beijing University of Technology, as the construction unit of integrated circuit talent training base. So far, integrated circuits are still under the discipline of electronic science and technology. It is not a first-level discipline.

Do the math for yourself how many years it will take us to fill this gap. Think about it for yourself, how far will human technology be innovating in the next decade or two?

To sum up, do you think we can catch up? The Phoenix Fund is obviously bragging. What are you going to follow?"

Jing Gao was angry in his heart, and his fingers were like flying inputs. Eat grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "I admit the gap, but I never think we should give up catching up." Moreover, there is an obvious loophole in your argument that Asmail's technology will always advance.

He's already at 5nm, so how far can he advance with his cutting-edge technology? 1nm? According to what I've read, Moore's Law is no longer valid in this field. This is a man-made law, not an objective law like physics.

And, according to your argument, will the first-mover countries always be ahead? Not necessarily! History tells us very clearly that during the Second Industrial Revolution, Germany's industrial output caught up with Britain's.

The most typical example is who planted the mushroom eggs first. So which one is stronger in the technology to clear the bomb and maintain combat readiness now? It seems to be a rabbit's.

So, there is no such thing as you said, the first-mover country has always had an advantage. You judge the outlook to be pessimistic. I think it's bright.

Because, after all, technical problems still have to be solved by people. At the end of the day, it's still a human problem. And the wisdom of the Chinese is not lost to anyone! We have proven it in history, and we will continue to prove it!"

Let Me Do 1911: "Speechless. I talk to you about technology, and you talk to me about people. Why? If you can't say anything, you will pull my IQ to the same level as you, and then use your rich experience to defeat me?

Do you think that the chip industry will be finished with a single lithography machine? Let me tell you, there are many backward places..."

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As soon as Idaka saw the reply of "Let Me Do 1911", he felt that there was no need to drag it off. Because this person has an obvious flaw: technical problems are technical problems.

You can talk a little bit about it.

In the end, how did the beautiful country play its semiconductor enterprises to death? Did it defeat it with technology? Should you be so naïve?

This has never been a purely technical issue when it comes to technical issues involving national security, strategy, and interests. Of course, in terms of lithography machine technology, it is not that flower growers should engage in Asmail's technology.

His point is clear: state-of-the-art lithography technology is stalling, and now is a good time to catch up. As for how difficult it is to emphasize the various difficulties in manufacturing chips, it is more difficult than two bombs and one satellite? It is even more difficult than China to complete industrialization? It is even more difficult than building an aircraft carrier?

Who are you scaring about?

Facing the sea, in the cold of winter. Jing Gao remembered the chairman's teaching: Let them say, we can't do this, that can't do it! The indomitable efforts of the Chinese people will surely steadily achieve their goals!

Jing Gao called Guan Guan.

He's going to build a lithography machine.

He didn't believe in that evil.