144. Sima Qian is not wronged? (ask for a monthly ticket!)
Li Shimin's words were like throwing a cannon into the silent lake.
It can be said that Sima Qian's topic has been deliberately avoided by everyone.
And the group is very divided about what happened to Sima Qian, some people think that Sima Qian is to blame, but some people think that this is a tragedy caused by Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, who was domineering and arrogant.
didn't expect Li Shimin to directly bring this topic to the table, and now no one can avoid it.
Eternal Li II:
"Chen Tong, you have to think, Emperor Wu of Han, this matter is not wrong. ”
"Then I'll really obey you!"
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Cao Cao's face was ugly, you are the one who bullied my old Cao family, if Chen Tong answers this question, whether it is good or bad, right or wrong, he will definitely suffer verbal criticism.
Because of Sima Qian's incident, the differences are too great.
Friends of Married Woman:
"Li Er, I want to be friends with you!"
"Tell you, Chen Tong, no one can bully except me. ”
"The person who bullied my old Cao family, I will fight with him!"
Li Shimin's face darkened, and he subconsciously looked at Concubine Yang, and then he was so angry that he really wanted to shoot Cao Cao through the screen.
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Wu Zetian is also quite dissatisfied with Li Shimin, isn't this recruiting Chen Tong?
Heart of the Illusory Sea:
"yes, don't bother with someone. ”
"As if he didn't exist. ”
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Zhu Di is also quite dissatisfied, if you Li Shimin really want to be tough with Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, then you will go directly to Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty!
It's not like he's not here.
Punish your ten clans (the lord of the prosperous world):
"This question can be completely ignored, you can directly evaluate Emperor Wu of Han. ”
"You can use Li Er as a tool man. ”
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Li Shimin's face turned dark, these guys are too protective of Chen Tong, isn't it that Chen Tong can help you?
Why don't I scold Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty?
That's because Emperor Wu of Han would definitely favor himself, which doesn't make sense at all.
Only when an outsider evaluates this matter will he stand on a more fair standpoint.
Li Shimin felt that although Chen Tong sometimes had a peculiar point of view, at least Chen Tong dared to say anything!
What he wants is someone who dares to speak the truth, not those, only the crowd will follow the crowd.
Second through the ages:
"Chen Tong, what's the matter, don't you dare to evaluate?"
"Are you scared too?"
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Chen Tong's eyes jumped, do you think I haven't had a relationship with others?
Chen Tong:
"There's nothing that can't be said, my point of view has always been that you can't be right because of who is pitiful!"
"We'll have to get things done. ”
"If we want to say whether Sima Qian was wronged in the end, then we must talk about the cause of the incident. ”
"First of all, many people believe that Sima Qian was sentenced to palace punishment because he spoke up for Li Ling. ”
And what people think is the truth: "
In 99 B.C., Li Guangli 30,000 cavalry, attack the Huns, flying general Li Guang's grandson Li Ling, with 5,000 infantry, as a partial division, with the army on the expedition, encountered the 80,000 main force of the Huns, he was not afraid, and the main force of the Huns fought desperately. ”
"Gave the Huns a heavy blow, but in the end, because they were outnumbered, they surrendered after being captured!"
It can be said that many people think that Li Ling is extremely brave, he should be sympathized, and his surrender is to return to the arms of the Han Dynasty, which is a fraudulent surrender. ”
"But is that really the case?"
"Does Li Ling need to be righteous?"
"Could it be that all the generals and ministers are not as good as a Sima Qian, and they can see that Li Ling is forced to do so?"
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Zhu Di was stunned at the time, shouldn't Li Ling be sympathized?
Punish your ten clans (the lord of the prosperous world):
"Isn't it?"
"I remember that everyone was saying that Li Ling was not afraid of death and had commendable courage, but because he was outnumbered, he was captured and surrendered. ”
"At least emotionally, people still think he's a tragic hero. ”
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Cao Cao, rubbing his head, he felt that Zhu Di really didn't read much.
Friends of Married Woman:
"You should read history well, it's not as simple as you think. ”
"Does Li Ling deserve sympathy?
"He doesn't deserve sympathy at all. ”
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Emperor Xin raised his eyebrows, if he only looked at what Chen Tong had said, Emperor Xin felt that most people would sympathize with Li Ling.
But listening to Cao Cao's meaning, it seems that there is something else hidden!
Anti-God Vanguard (Emperor of the Ancients)
"Why, isn't this the truth of history?"
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Chen Tong
"There's nothing wrong with it, but I can't stand being edited. ”
"The matter has been pinched and removed, so you think Li Ling is more pitiful. ”
"But,"
"I'll tell you, after what happened, you won't think so. ”
At that time, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was about to send Li Guangli to attack the Xiongnu, and originally wanted Li Ling to serve as Li Guangli's logistics officer to escort grain and grass. ”
But Li Ling was arrogant and unwilling to be subservient. ”
"Therefore, he asked Emperor Wu of Han for his life, saying that if he led a partial army, he could break the Xiongnu!"
Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was embarrassed at that time, after all, the flying general Li Guang was self-inflicted, and he also admired the loyalty of the Li family, but the actual situation was that the Han Dynasty did not have so many cavalry horses. ”
Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty told Li Ling the actual situation and advised Li Ling not to be anxious. ”
But Li Ling patted his chest and said very proudly: No cavalry, just give 5,000 infantry, I can also defeat the Huns!"
At that time, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was really shocked by Li Ling's domineering, and he felt that he was like seeing the second Huo Quai, and he agreed as soon as he slapped the table. ”
"Moreover, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, when Li Ling set out on the expedition, was already ready for Li Ling's sacrifice. This time, no matter whether Li Ling succeeds or fails, he will become a hero of the Han Dynasty. ”
"After all, fighting in the grassland, taking the infantry, and fighting the cavalry, it is basically no different from looking for death. ”
"However, I never expected that in the heart of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, a talent with such strong ambitions and comparable to Huo Quai's illness would surrender!"
"You say, how can this be accepted by Emperor Wu of Han?"
"How can this be accepted by the military of the Han Dynasty?"
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Zhu Di's eyes widened, is there such a thing?
Punish your ten clans (the lord of the prosperous world):
"That's my word, and I can't take it. ”
"When you Li Ling brags, doesn't this mean that you have a military order? If you are afraid of death, then you should not send it to death?"
"On the grassland, leading 5,000 infantry, and fighting the opponent's cavalry, people can play you to death. ”
"Feelings, do you want to take the soldiers and run to show your IQ?"
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Friends of Married Woman:
"That's why I said, Li Ling doesn't deserve sympathy at all, it's just his own death!"
"The most odious thing is that he also went to die with 5,000 soldiers. ”
"I only saw a child of a family who was just meritorious, had no responsibility, and was greedy for life and afraid of death. ”
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Heart of the Illusory Sea:
"Li Ling has nothing to sympathize with, he is so happy and conceited. ”
"If he fought against the Huns, after inflicting heavy losses on the Huns, he drew his sword and killed himself, and he was not taken prisoner. ”
"Then I admire his integrity. ”
But this greed for life and fear of death, after surrendering, this nature changed suddenly. ”
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Chen Tong nodded with satisfaction, and everyone seemed to have a good outlook.
Chen Tong:
"Why, at that time, all the people didn't speak for Li Ling?"
"First, Li Ling is too arrogant, he led 5,000 infantry to fight the Huns, in the eyes of the minister, this is all brain-dead. ”
"Second, the Han and the Xiongnu are endless, and no matter what reason they surrender to the enemy, it is not acceptable. ”
"The so-called life and death are small, but treason is big!"
"If Li Ling is connived, then everyone can commit treason, it can be said that it will have a great impact on the atmosphere at that time, I am afraid that someone will follow suit, if Li Ling is not punished heavily, how can the morale of the army be boosted?"
"In particular, the Li family was an example for the Han to learn from at that time, and it was the glory of the military gate. ”
"So the ministers of the court, that caliber is unprecedentedly unified, that is, you think Li Ling deserves to die, there is no one worthy of sympathy. ”
"And at this time, Sima Qian made a different remark from others to defend Li Ling, do you say he is wronged?"
In the chat group, I fell into deep thought.