Luo Li laughed and looked at the female doctor who was spitting fragrant mouth, but his heart was shocked by her confidence.

He noticed that Sun Ru's words did not say that they could not make chips, but that they could not make backward chips.

The difference between the two words is worlds apart, although there is an element of blind confidence in this, but Luo Li felt a burst of excitement.

"Good!" he smiled and clapped. "As long as you can make the chip, I will give you as much money as you want, and I can wait for as much time as you want!"

Luo Li cheered Sun Ru up, and Liu Zeyang on the side also helped the glasses on the bridge of his nose, and shyly lowered his head and chuckled.

Luo Li asked Sun Ru softly again with a spring breeze: "Then can you tell me how much it will cost and how much time it will take for us to be able to produce our own chips?"

Sun Ru thought seriously for a moment, suddenly raised his head and said solemnly: "With 30 years of accumulation, Mi Guo has made a breakthrough in the field of semiconductors. Fuso and Europe completed the catch-up in 10 years on the basis of the study of the United States. Of course, in the field of computer core chips, they are still not as good as the United States.

So I think we might be able to catch up with Fuso and Europe in five years, but as for the core computer chips......"

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If AMD is not open source, it is not easy for other countries to produce core chips.

In fact, in Luo Li's previous life, in the field of core chips, Apple finally independently developed the M1 chip, breaking the monopoly of the two companies in the field of computer core chips.

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The company is inextricably linked.

However, Sun Ru couldn't think that far, and seeing her fall into deep thought, Luo Li laughed and said: "It's not easy to make a computer core chip, don't worry about this matter first." So you say, how much does it cost us to make the simplest chip?"

"10 billion is about the same!"

"Poof!" Luo Li sat on the ground with his legs limp.

"Mr. Luo, Mr. Luo, what's wrong with you?" Liu Zeyang and Sun Ru were taken aback by Luo Li's reaction, and the two hurriedly helped the fallen boss up.

"Maybe I haven't eaten, and I'm a little hypoglycemic. After Luo Li stood up, he wiped the sweat from his forehead and said with a sneer.

"Mr. Luo, you won't be frightened by my words, right? Sun Ru immediately saw Luo Li's true thoughts, covered his mouth and laughed.

"Little Sun!" Liu Zeyang on the side hurriedly wanted to stop Sun Ru, but when he saw Luo Li smiling and waving his hand, he didn't say any more.

"10 billion, is it so much?" Luo Li felt a little strange, although chip R&D and manufacturing is a very money-burning thing, but 10 billion is a bit too exaggerated.

Sun Ru stopped laughing and said to Luo Lizhengse: "Mr. Luo, in fact, 10 billion is to say less, do you know how much money it took to have today's scientific and technological energy in Mi Guo?"

Standing on the shoulders of giants, we are actually a double-edged sword.

The advantage is that we don't have to take detours, but the disadvantage is that the road has been repaired by others, and we have to pay money to others if we want to pass.

Therefore, if we really want to master the research and development from monocrystalline silicon to core chips, 10 billion is far from enough.

For example, the machines used to extract and manufacture silicon wafers are currently monopolized by only a few countries.

Although the estimated price of a machine is tens of millions, the problem is that people don't sell it to us, even if it costs 100 million, they won't sell it!

Another example is the lithography machine, which can be built by Nikon and Canon at present. Even if it's I

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And AMD wants to make chips with smaller specifications, and when purchasing lithography machines, they also have to look at their eyes.

How much people say, that's how much.

In other countries, people don't sell it at all!

So you say, what I'm estimating at more than 10 billion is not much?"

Luo Li finally understood what Sun Ru meant, and knew that the 10 billion yuan in her mouth was not only the R&D cost of a chip, but the price of the technical mastery of a series of processes from sand to chips.

Thinking of this, Luo Li nodded: "Not much!" But after finishing speaking, he suddenly remembered something, so he asked Sun Ru: "Just now you said that the lithography machine can only be made by Nikon and Canon, but what about ASML in the Netherlands?"

After Luo Li asked, Sun Ru and Liu Zeyang were stunned, and shook their heads after looking at each other. "ASML? What kind of company is that?"

Looking at Sun Ru's puzzled expression, Luo Li suddenly seemed to understand something, and then there was a burst of joy in his heart.

After waving his hand to signal that there was no need to say anything more, he asked Sun Ru again: "Alas, I heard that you interned in Silicon Valley before. Who is it from?"

“Elmos！”

Sun Ru didn't think much about it, and immediately replied.

These things are all in her resume, so there is no need for her to hide them from Luo Li.

"I've also heard that the company seems to be producing wafers. Luo Li deliberately probed, in fact, he didn't know what that company was producing.

But thinking that Sun Ru was able to imitate the equipment for extracting monocrystalline silicon, Luo Li speculated about the company's main business.

Sure enough, Sun Ru nodded and said, "Elmos mainly produces 150 mm size wafers, and in fact, they have been developing complex semiconductor products since 1984. And wafer extraction is one of their most profitable businesses. ”

"Then why doesn't their company directly produce chips?" Luo Li continued to ask.

Sun Ru shook his head and laughed: "Mr. Luo, you are laughing."

The sand is purified, shaped at high temperatures, and then rotated and stretched to produce monocrystalline silicon, which is the initial state of the wafer.

In actual production, the process of reducing silica to monocrystalline silicon is very difficult, because the actual purity of the wafer used is very high, reaching more than 99.999%.

The process is already very high-tech, but there is still a lot of work to be done to make the chips. So the company doesn't have that capability.

And just by producing wafers, this basic material for the development and production of chips can already make the company make a lot of money, so they don't need to spend manpower and material resources to develop chips.

Moreover, the developed chips are not necessarily stronger than professional chip companies.

So how can they do thankless work?"

"Yes, Mr. Luo.

For example, our chip design team can independently design simple chips like IC cards.

And then there's the music feature you mentioned last time. Our design team designed the audio decoding chip. It is now in the experimental phase.

Although we do not have the technology to extract monocrystalline silicon, our chip design team can still design and develop relatively simple chips.

So as long as we have money, then the basic materials can be purchased to supply the design team to develop chips. ”

Liu Zeyang's words sounded like an explanation for Sun Ru, but in fact, he was saying that Sun Ru's team was not as powerful as the chip design team, and it dragged the design team back, which made Sun Ru blush.

Luo Li pretended not to understand the conversation between the two. He shook his head and said, "No, my goal in establishing the company is to become the kind of all-round company that Dr. Sun said, from sand to chips, with all the technology." Relying on basic materials to engage in R&D is like being choked by the neck. Someone will kill me at any time! So I still hope that Dr. Sun can break through the technical barriers as soon as possible and develop a device that can extract monocrystalline silicon and even make silicon wafers. ”

Luo Li's words shocked Sun Ru, but she didn't speak, just lowered her head and thought about something.

Seeing this, Luo Li turned his gaze to Liu Zeyang: "Zeyang, you said that the chip design team has developed an audio decoding chip?"

Liu Zeyang nodded: "Yes, although this chip is complicated, Lao Yang's team finally developed it after spending more than a month and basic materials worth 8 million yuan and doing nearly 1,000 tests." ”

Liu Zeyang deliberately put 8 million three words very heavily when he spoke, and sure enough, Sun Ru lowered his head more and more after hearing it.

But what Luo Li is thinking about at the moment is the audio chip that Liu Zeyang said. He vaguely remembers that in his previous life, when Rockchip developed a domestic music chip, it once became the world's top MP3 brand.

If you have chips, won't there be a channel for money?

Luo Li suddenly trembled, and finally suppressed the excitement in his heart. After calming down, he raised his head and reintroduced the topic to monocrystalline silicon, which needed to be solved urgently. "Xiao Sun, did you come into contact with the equipment for extracting wafers when you were in Elmos?"