In the chat group.

Emperor Xin, stroking his palms and laughing, wonderful is really wonderful!

Anti-God Vanguard (Emperor of the Ancients)

"As Chen Tong said, it is simply unrealistic to recruit 2 million people every month, and then stuff 12 million people in the Grand Canal!

"It's definitely a break.

"The labor intensity is not large, and if you change a batch every month, it is impossible for the people to die of exhaustion on a large scale.

"In the worst case, the people also work for a month and rest for a month, and the most unlucky situation is that every time they are recruited, that is, they are recruited 6 times.

"It seems that rumors will always have loopholes.

"Because if you tell a lie, you need countless lies to make up for it, and it simply can't stand up to scrutiny.

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Cao Cao also nodded, this Black Sui Emperor Yang Emperor's canal opening is really too many loopholes.

Friends of Married Woman:

"Not bad!

"It's ridiculous to drag half of the whole country to build the Grand Canal, and I don't want to do anything else?

Chen Tong's statement is the most correct, a sign of batches, after a month of work, you need to rest, so that the speed is the fastest, the efficiency is the highest, at least the new people are full of energy.

"The Mo family's architectural knowledge and overall scheduling are in the hands of the gate valve.

"Where do ordinary people know how terrible the Mo family's equipment for building cities and digging rivers is.

They didn't understand the power of the Mo family, so they used his barren thinking to think about the ancient wisdom of Yan Huang.

"I'm afraid it's not that the Great Wall is still being scratched by how to build it!

"The wisdom of the ancestors, how can you underestimate it?

I asked, is there anything else you want to refute?

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Li Shimin was really stunned at the moment, is this what Chen Tong called mathematical thinking?

Are you still an individual?

You're too tricky at this angle, aren't you? I'm pushing backwards, and I'm dizzy.

Li Shimin realized that he couldn't, in the field that Chen Tong was familiar with, he continued to entangle with Chen Tong, so that he would only be more passive.

Eternal Li II:

"Well, although the more people recruit, the less labor-intensive. ”

"However, don't forget, the conscription is all in the time of the slack farming, Emperor Yang of the Sui Dynasty is open all year round, and how many people will miss the cultivation and have no harvest. ”

"How many people will starve to death without food?"

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Chen Tong thought this was ridiculous.

Chen Tong:

"There is also an inertial thinking here, that is, the construction of the Grand Canal will definitely delay the farmers' cultivation time and delay the busy agricultural period, so the people will not be able to make a living. ”

"That's embarrassing, people are paid!"

"Speaking of which, you don't know much about the ancient system of forced labor. ”

"What is servitude, it is an integral part of taxation, it is the peasants who provide free labor for the feudal dynasty. ”

"However, the use of this free labor is time-limited, and each dynasty can requisition a total of no more than 1~2 months for construction projects during the agricultural slack time. ”

"But this time must choose the time of slack, why?"

"It is because of the fear of influence that farmers sow seeds, plough the land, and harvest the season. ”

"On the one hand, the peasants have nothing to eat and are prone to rebellion. ”

"The second aspect is that if the peasants do not have a harvest, the state will not have taxes. ”

"Therefore, every dynasty has a clear rule that if the peasants are allowed to serve when the peasants are busy, then they must be paid for their labor. ”

"Moreover, those who continue to make peasants serve in the conscription beyond the time of conscription must also be paid, which is equivalent to hiring workers. ”

"People are paid, this is equivalent to going to work for Emperor Yang of Sui, where did the starvation come from?"

"By building the Grand Canal, we turned farmers into professional construction workers. ”

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Zhu Di rolled his eyes, I know that you Li Shimin are really trying to overturn your father-in-law, and you will do everything!

Punish your ten clans (the lord of the prosperous world):

"When the farm is busy, officials are conscripted for conscription, and for whatever reason, they are punished. ”

"And if the imperial court wants to forcibly levy and conscript, it must compensate the peasants for the loss of the harvest, which is to protect agriculture, which is the foundation of agricultural civilization. ”

"You don't even know that?"

"Shinong business, agriculture, not only farmers, but also agriculture. ”

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Cao Cao smiled, this Li Shimin, does he think that Chen Tong does not understand the conscription system?

Friends of Married Woman:

"I'm really drunk, I'll ask you, when Tang Taizong was in power, if the Yellow River bursts. ”

"He has to be recruited temporarily, and when the peasants are busy with farming, won't he pay the workers?"

"Let these people who built the embankment, after repairing the embankment, go home and wait to starve to death?"

"This is the way to govern the country?"

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Li Shimin was angry at that time, and slapped the table angrily, is he that kind of tyrant?

Second through the ages:

"What are you kidding?"

"Li Shimin is so holy and wise, loves the people like a son, and knows that water can carry a boat and capsize a boat. ”

"How is it possible to occupy the peasants' busy farming time and not compensate the peasants?"

"Not only to compensate, but also to compensate him for all his losses, so that the peasants can give you peace of mind to build the dikes. ”

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Wu Zetian, with a hint of mockery in his eyes.

Heart of the Illusory Sea:

"So there is no Holy Monarch in the world except for Li Shimin?"

"Someone else builds a river embankment, and someone else occupies the agricultural time, is it a faint tyrant?"

"Just he, Li Shimin, knows that he wants to compensate the people, and other emperors don't even understand this basic truth?"

"And then just wait for these peasants to starve to death? The next year the population will go down, the taxes will go down, and so on?"

Li Shimin's face darkened, it seems that now everyone does not think that the IQ of Emperor Yang of Sui is so low. ”

In a word, it can't be reminiscent of Emperor Yang of Sui, who is such a tyrant, and this direction has really changed. ”

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Chen Tong smiled.

Chen Tong

"It's brainless. ”

"Because Li Shimin is a Ming Jun, Li Shimin does everything in accordance with the rules and regulations, and everything he does is a good thing. ”

"Because Emperor Yang of Sui was hacked into a tyrant, Emperor Yang of Sui did nothing and did not follow the rules and regulations, he must occupy the agricultural time, did not compensate the peasants, and waited for the peasants to starve to death. ”

"Isn't that a bit taken for granted?"

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Li Shimin complained, feeling that the wind was not in the right direction.

Eternal Li II:

"You didn't understand what I meant. ”

"I mean, can Emperor Yang of Sui give so much money?"

"Do you want to know how many people Emperor Yang of Sui has requisitioned, more than 12 million, can he pay everyone money?"

"Can you give it in full?"

"Let the farmers who build the river embankment be able to feed their families?"

"That's the crux of the matter, do you understand?"

Li Shimin sneered in his heart, although "The Story of Opening the River" uses exaggerated brushwork, you can't say that it is all fake.

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Li Shimin's words made everyone ponder for a while, because it is true that the amount of work is too large, and there are too many people who need to be compensated.

If the compensation and wages are not paid in full, it may also cause a large number of people to starve to death because they do not have enough to eat.

Daming Palace.

Zhu Di expressed Li Shimin's point of view, looked at his son and queen, and asked their opinions.

Empress Xu's beautiful eyes blinked, nodded and said, "Yes, how much does it cost?"

Zhu Gaochi had a clearer concept, and he immediately said:

"The construction of the Grand Canal was originally a matter of spending money, and Emperor Yang of Sui also had to requisition and transfer people to occupy agricultural time, and the key is that there are so many people, more than 12 million people need to be compensated. ”

"Erchen thinks that even if we empty the treasury of the Ming Dynasty, it will not be enough to compensate these people. ”

"It's much worse than a famine. ”

Zhu Di also nodded again and again, yes, this is a key question, he found that Li Shimin really did his homework, and this time he pointed out the biggest loophole in Chen Tong's logic.

Punish your ten clans (the lord of the prosperous world):

"This is indeed a problem, there are too many people who violate the agricultural season and requisition people. ”

"If you want to compensate, how much does Emperor Yang of Sui have to spend?"

"Does he have the ability?"

The emperors all frowned, yes, this is the crux of the matter.