Chapter 221 Negotiation (3)
Three days later, the East China Government and the Dutch colonial government formally held talks, with Zhang Wei being the representative of the East China Government, Governor Rosbro being the representative of the Dutch colonial government, and Major General Hamilton being the British side presiding over the talks.
The two sides first had a fierce quarrel over the amount of compensation, and Zhang Wei produced a 60-page list of expenditures, detailing the expenses of the East China government for the Javanese defense operation, listing more than 300 sub-items in total, and the total amount reached more than 12 million pounds.
This figure also frightened Rosburu, because the reparations for this negotiation were all paid by the colonial government, and the Netherlands would not pay a penny, and the East China government's offer was to make the Dutch colonial government lose all its money.
When complaining that Rosburu did not have the time to look at the items one by one, carefully checked, because to check one by one, these more than 300 small items, without 4 or 5 days of hard work can not be completed, although knowing that the other party is using a negotiation strategy, intentionally opening a high price, and one by one checking, bargaining, it is not easy to say how much can be lowered in the end, so Rossburu took the simplest way, slapped the table, and said: "We can only compensate at most 2 million pounds, and if we want more, we will not give a penny." ”
Zhang Wei naturally did not be polite, and said: "2 million pounds want to send us away, that is such an easy thing, we have listed a list of items, not a penny less, if there is a penny less, we will immediately send troops to attack Batavia." ”
Not to be outdone, Rosburu said: "Fight and fight, are we still afraid that you won't succeed." ”
Zhang Wei snorted and said, "Okay, the negotiation breaks down, let's use war to solve it." After that, get up and leave.
Although he knew that Zhang Wei was pretending to be a gesture and did not really want to leave, Hamilton did not dare to let Zhang Wei go like this, what if the fake came true? To put it mildly, Zhang Wei was finally stopped.
In fact, Zhang Wei naturally didn't want the negotiation to break down like this, of course, he also calculated that Hamilton would block it, so he dared to turn his face immediately, so he went down the steps and sat back at the negotiation table.
Hamilton glared at Rosburu fiercely, thinking that overseas Chinese have tough capital, and what qualifications do you Dutch have to play tricks, not relying on the prestige of Britain, but now you have to let yourself pay, but now is not the time to talk about this, so he said: "Everyone, since it is a negotiation, it is naturally negotiable, so I hope that you will not say anything like 'non-negotiable' and 'negotiation breakdown' in the future." After a pause, he said, "As for the amount of compensation, I suggest that both of you should give in to each other." ”
Zhang Wei nodded and said, "Okay, we can get 11 million pounds." ”
"We can add up to 3 million pounds," Rosburu said. ”
Hamilton couldn't help but smile bitterly, it was like a trader bargaining, but at least both sides gave a step, although it was still far from it, but it was also a good sign, and said, "You better give in again." ”
In this way, you drop a little on both sides, I add a little, and after a few rounds, Zhang Wei dropped to 8 million pounds, and Rosburu also rose to 5 million pounds, and neither side was willing to give in anymore.
Seeing that the negotiations were frozen again, Hamilton said: "Well, since there is only 3 million pounds left between you and you, I think it is better to fold it to 6.5 million pounds." ”
Zhang Wei nodded and said, "Okay, since Major General Hamilton said so, I'll give you a face, 6.5 million pounds." In fact, the bottom line of the East China government is 5 million pounds, so it can talk about 6.5 million pounds, which has greatly exceeded expectations, 6.5 million pounds converted into silver is close to 40 million taels, which is almost the annual fiscal revenue of the East China government last year, Zhang Wei also feels that he should be satisfied, and can no longer be insatiable.
And Rosblue had to smile bitterly, although the colonial government's income was not cheap, but 6.5 million pounds was indeed not a small amount, but it was also within the scope of the colonial government's affordability, it was better than 12 million pounds in compensation, and the colonial government really did not have the capital to negotiate, so it could only accept this result.
The first item was finally discussed, Hamilton wiped a sweat, and the next thing was to negotiate the punishment of the perpetrators.
In fact, when the East China Government first proposed this article, it was purely because it was difficult for the Dutch colonial government to find an excuse to send troops to Java to protect overseas Chinese, because if the culprit was really to be investigated, I am afraid that the Dutch colonial government would not be able to get rid of it, and it would not be possible to deal with all the officials of the Dutch colonial government. Moreover, the People's Army also swept away 7 or 8 indigenous tribes in Java, which can be regarded as a breath of relief for the Chinese in Java, so no one wants to pursue anything more.
As a result, the two sides quickly agreed that the indigenous tribes attacked by the KPA were the culprits of the anti-Chinese exclusion, and the colonial government would not pursue them, and that the indigenous captives captured by the KPA would be tried and disposed of by the KPA itself, and the colonial government would not interfere.
Although it was easy to pass this hurdle, Hamilton's heart was not easy, because what followed was the most difficult thing in this negotiation. Therefore, Hamilton cheered up and said, "Do you have any good suggestions for ensuring that similar anti-Chinese incidents do not occur in Java and fully protecting the rights of Chinese people in Java?"
Rosburu began by saying: "I think it is enough to write these things in the treaty, which is a document with legal effect, so it means that the colonial government will protect the rights and interests of the Chinese in Java." ”
Zhang Wei shook his head and said: "I don't think so, the treaty is indeed a legally binding document, but it cannot replace the real legal provisions, we hope that there can be substantive guarantees, not empty content of the treaty." ”
Hamilton said, "So what do you think is a substantial guarantee?"
Zhang Wei said: "We hope that the Chinese in Java will achieve autonomy under the rule of the colonial government, or set up a region in Java, as an autonomous region for the Chinese, and all administrative and judicial decisions will be made by the Chinese themselves, and the colonial government still has jurisdiction and tax power, but ......."
Before he could finish his words, he was interrupted by Rosburu: "No, this is absolutely not possible, Java is the overseas territory of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and the sovereignty belongs to the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and I will never allow any autonomous regions or autonomous people to appear in Java." ”
Hamilton also said: "General Zhang, I also think that your suggestion is indeed difficult for some strongmen, and it is unacceptable to any sovereign country, so I think it is better to change the suggestion." ”
Zhang Wei said: "Okay, then I will make another suggestion, under the rule of the colonial government, a Chinese governance committee can be established, which is responsible for managing all the affairs of the Chinese, directly responsible to the governor, and the colonial government can send people to supervise and manage." ”
Roseblu's congregation shook like a wave drum, and said: "No, this is not good, what is the difference between this and Chinese self-government, it is nothing more than one more Chinese governance committee." ”
Zhang Wei spread his hands and said: "This is not good, that is not good, then you should make a good suggestion, but don't fool me with anything written into the treaty or something, if we are substantial." ”
Hamilton nodded, looked at Roseblue, and said, "Mr. Governor, do you have any better suggestions?"
Roseblue gritted his teeth and said, "We can have three seats on the board of directors for the Chinese people." ”
Hamilton said: "General Zhang, I think this suggestion is feasible, all the affairs of the colonial government are decided by the votes of the 20 members of the council, and even the governor cannot go against the resolution of the council and let the Chinese serve as 3 council seats, which is to give the Chinese the right to fully participate in the administrative affairs of Java, which should be regarded as a substantive guarantee." ”
Zhang Wei nodded and said, "This is a reliable suggestion, we can talk about it, but I have three opinions." ”
Hamilton said, "What is it?"
Zhang Wei said: "First, out of the 20 council seats, only three are given to the Chinese, which is really too few, and a few more should be added; second, in the colonial government, the council is only responsible for legislation, and the administrative affairs are in charge of the governor's office, which is divided into eight departments, and the judicial system is in charge of three justices. ”
In fact, this is also the result of the negotiation between the traverser and the Chinese in Java, because now since the Chinese autonomy in Java cannot be pursued, then the power can only be sought within the framework of the administrative system of the colonial government to ensure the interests of the Chinese, but it must be in the executive, legislative, and judicial systems must have the participation of the Chinese, only in this way can the correct political force of the Chinese be formed, otherwise it only exists in one system, and it is not dominant, and it will definitely be marginalized. In addition, the Chinese in the political system must be elected or elected by the Chinese themselves, not by the order of the colonial government, otherwise they will still not be able to get rid of the control of the colonial government.
Roseblue's face couldn't help but change greatly when he heard this, even Hamilton's face was not very good-looking, according to the conditions put forward by the overseas Chinese, the Javanese Chinese will achieve a great political status, although it is not yet possible to completely subvert the rule of the Netherlands, but the Netherlands can no longer cover the sky in Java as in the past, and even incite the natives to contain the Chinese tricks are not good, because now the Javanese Chinese are supported by the powerful political force of the East China government.
But it is not a way to deny Zhang Wei's request in this way, after all, there is no better solution, overseas Chinese can be fooled from time to time, and the colonial government cannot accept Chinese autonomy, so Hamilton thought for a while and said: "In this way, the negotiations have made a lot of progress, I suggest that we suspend it for a day, and everyone go back to negotiate again, and then resume negotiations the day after tomorrow." ”