Chapter 848 - Eating Meat Together?

"This ......" Looking at the scene in front of him, Guo Rui was stunned for a while, and then asked Zhang Ying and Wang Dazhi in surprise: "Lao Zhang, Lao Wang, the current situation...... What are you going to do?"

"What should I do?

Zhang Ying smiled bitterly and said: "You don't know the meaning of the above, Lao Guo, what else can we do?"

"Tsk......"

Guo Rui stopped talking, but looked at these two old friends with sympathy: This can be regarded as being robbed of power, right?

Regardless of whether they were robbed of power or not, it can be expected that after this incident, Lao Zhang and Lao Wang will not only have a great loss of influence within COMAC, but also have a much weaker right to speak.

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Not to mention how Zhang Ying and Wang Dazhi were entangled in the face of the changes in the old Hafei Factory in the past few days since they left, and not to mention how Guo Rui was glad that the 331 Factory was not merged into the COMAC Group, the next day, the talks between the two sides officially began.

At the beginning of the consultation, Guo Rui expressed his attitude on behalf of the 331 factory, and also paved a good atmosphere for today's talks: "Chen Dong, under your operation, dozens of Y11 and Y12 aircraft have been exported, creating considerable foreign exchange earnings for our country, so before I came, the leaders of the ministry have instructed our 331 factory to fully cooperate with your export earnings, and we will do our best to meet your requirements." ”

"Thank you," Chen Geng nodded politely, paused, and Chen Geng also said: "Thank you very much for the support of Factory 331, I am also here to make a promise to the brothers of Factory 331 on behalf of COMAC Group, in the future, the aircraft exported by COMAC Group, as long as the engine purchased from Factory 331, will be settled with 331 in the currency of the exporting country." ”

Chen Geng deeply knows a truth, that is: if you want others to help you seriously, then when you eat meat, don't forget to give your partner a mouthful of thick soup with meat and bones, since Yun-11, Yun-12 and Zhi-9 can be exported to earn foreign exchange, then naturally you can't miss the core subsystem supplier: the 331 factory - otherwise you export to earn foreign exchange. Commended by the superior leaders, the life is beautiful, people have worked hard to provide you with high-quality products, but the result has not reaped any great benefits, a while two will be just that, for a long time, you are not afraid that people will not feel comfortable?

All aircraft exported by COMAC will be settled with Factory 331 in foreign currency.

Guo Rui didn't know this before, and when he heard this, Guo Rui was really surprised and happy, and hurriedly confirmed with Chen Geng: "Chairman Chen, what you said is true?

"Of course it's true," Chen Geng nodded with a smile: "That's how I do business, I don't eat alone, we definitely won't call friends to eat together when we eat meat, if Director Guo is not at ease, we can then sign a supplementary document to the previous engine supply agreement and write this article on." ”

"Chen Dong is interesting enough!" Guo Rui gave a thumbs up, and immediately reciprocated: "Since Chen Dong, you are so interesting, then I also represent our 331 factory to express my attitude, in the future, our 331 factory to supply the engine to COMAC Group, not only on time, quality, quantity, but also at a price as good as possible." ”

At this moment, Guo Rui's impression of Chen Geng is already very good: in this era when everyone is eager to eat all the meat in one bite and doesn't even leave soup for partners, Chen Geng doesn't forget to call his partners when he eats meat, which is really ...... It's so interesting.

With this good start, the atmosphere of the subsequent talks was much more harmonious, and this good atmosphere lasted until the two sides talked about the improvement of the piston-6 engine......

Guo Rui said: "Mr. Chen, you should know that our piston-6 engine is actually based on the Soviet Union's 'Ayi' AI-14M star engine with some improvements and fine-tuning, which can be regarded as the domestic version of AI-14M. ”

"Yes, I know. Chen Geng nodded.

"That's the problem," Guo Rui said with a wry smile: "It's not that we don't want to improve the performance and economy of the piston-6, but no matter how we change it, the piston-6 is the foundation of the engine technology of the Soviet Union in the forties after all, and as you know, our country's technology and experience in internal combustion engines are very weak, and we do not have the ability to design a high-performance aviation internal combustion engine from scratch, so we can only make some minor repairs to the piston-6 over the years, and we want to make the performance of the piston-6 catch up with the mainland, Lycoming, The performance of an engine at the same power level as Rotex is really unrealistic......"

Chen Geng frowned.

Guo Rui said that it is indeed reasonable, to rely on limited changes to upgrade an engine more than 40 years ago to today's level, so that the piston-6 in quality, overhaul life, fuel consumption, overall weight, economy and many other aspects can reach the same power level of piston aero engines such as Continental, Lycoming and so on, this difficulty is indeed not ordinary, it can even be said that it is better to redesign a new engine.

But Guo Rui said so much to himself, what is his purpose?

Chen Geng didn't think that Guo Rui and himself had said so much, just to emphasize that the improvement of the piston-6 was very difficult.

He nodded: "You continue." ”

"But Y11 is a project that the country attaches great importance to and can be exported to earn foreign exchange, as the engine supporting unit of Y11, our 331 factory has the responsibility and obligation to enhance the competitiveness of Y11 transport aircraft in the world, so I have a new idea after thinking about it, that is: can we cooperate?"

"Cooperation?"

"Yes, after our discussion, we thought that it was entirely possible to use AMC's extensive technology in internal combustion engines and our experience in piston aero engines to jointly design a piston aero engine?"

Guo Rui's tail was finally revealed.

Chen Geng groaned.

Theoretically speaking, this is a strong cooperation model: AMC has rich experience in the design, development and manufacture of internal combustion engines, and is also a shareholder of the famous engine manufacturer Cosworth and the top sports car Lamborghini, and can get the technical support of these two companies; If the two sides work together, it is theoretically possible to make a high-performance piston aero engine.

"Two questions," after thinking for a moment, Chen Geng asked: "First, if the cooperation is successful, who will the intellectual property rights of this engine belong to?; second, in terms of production, will it be carried out by Factory 331 or by our COMAC Group?"

Guo Rui Daxi: Chen Geng's ability to raise these two questions means that he has actually begun to think about the details of cooperation. He immediately said: "In terms of production, I can honestly say that our 331 factory has twenty or thirty years of experience in the production of piston aero engines, so I think that the production of our 331 factory can better ensure the quality of the products; as for intellectual property rights, since it is a cooperative research and development, the intellectual property rights are of course shared." ”

"Shared?"

Chen Geng smiled, shaking his head while laughing: "Director Guo, we all understand that this engine is said to be a cooperative research and development, but in fact, it must be based on our AMC, your 331 factory can at best provide some suggestions and precautions in the field of aero engines, if this engine can be established, and finally successfully developed, I don't want to say more, our contribution must account for at least eighty percent, and then you tell me that intellectual property rights are shared?"

The overhaul life of the piston-6 is only 800 hours, and the overhaul life can only be regarded as qualified, compared with the overhaul life of the mainland, Lycoming and Rotex in 2500 to 3000 hours, the overhaul life of the piston-6 is indeed a little stumbling.

"This ......" Guo Rui's expression was a little embarrassed, but he still insisted: "But even so, our 331 factory still provides 20% of the contribution, isn't it?"

Chen Geng understood Guo Rui's thoughts: since we also have 20% of the contribution, then we will take 20% of the shares. But how could Chen Geng agree with him in this way?

He shook his head: "Since you think so, then it's good: the development of this engine is mainly carried out by our COMAC Group, and at the same time, we have invested in and hired you as our special consultant." ”

What special consultants, of course, are special consultants who remind AMC's design team what to pay attention to and what to avoid when designing engines.

Without waiting for Guo Rui to speak, Chen Geng continued: "Also, as for your experience in the production of piston aero engines mentioned by Director Guo...... IMHO, if you really have a lot of experience in the production of piston aero engines, at least the overhaul life of the Piston-6 should not be only one-third to one-quarter of the international counterpart.

Therefore, I am more worried about the quality control capabilities of Factory 33, and I do not agree with your suggestion that Factory 331 should produce this new engine. ”

Guo Rui was a little anxious when he heard this: What? If it is according to the meaning of your words, is it that your COMAC Group wants to get rid of our 331 factory and go it alone?

On the front foot, you just said that you want to use foreign exchange to buy an engine from our 331 factory, and on the back foot, you plan to get rid of us and go it alone?

He didn't mention the matter of intellectual property rights, and said seriously: "Chairman Chen, you yourself are the big boss of AMC, you should know how much investment is required to build an engine production line, let's not talk about the question of who owns this engine, but in terms of production, in my opinion, it is more suitable to put it in our 331 factory...... We have a ready-made production line, as long as the existing production line is technically transformed, it can be put into use immediately, and you don't have to spend money to buy a new production line. ”