Chapter 832: Who Should I Look for in Motion Capture?
If you were to make the "Guilty Crown" or "Fate" series directly at this time, the technology would have been accumulated from scratch, and the minimum time limit would have been more than two years. Pen ~ fun ~ pavilion www.biquge.info
However, if you switch to a gentleman's game that doesn't have high requirements for system and performance, then it's all another story.
Although it is also a very troublesome thing, in terms of difficulty, the two are completely different.
Even, Mori Xia is now able to write a script while making a game, and it only takes about a year or so to achieve a basic version.
As for the present, it is a matter of style of the work.
Although the performance problem is also very troublesome, relatively speaking, it is actually the least important point, castration, optimization, and changing platforms, there are many ways to squeeze performance, so now Senxia is discussing at this time, and it is really a style problem.
"It's a question of whether it's a realistic style or a classic animation style. ”
After entering this link, Senxia encountered a problem on his side.
In the process of making 3D works, the rendering style is also a problem that needs to be solved.
Whether it is an extremely realistic system made in the style of Europe and the United States, or a fantasy system that imitates the two-dimensional image of classic Japanese comics, is a big question.
There is a big difference between the two styles in terms of performance form, the latter can use a variety of interesting special effects, while the former is more realistic in the game, more able to make people feel immersed, and in terms of the current direction of technical research, the former is also more convenient.
"However, relatively speaking, if it is the latter, the aesthetic is more animated, but the rendering is not so easy to do......," Huang Lei said, "We have studied before, on the three shades and two, the processing burden of the computer is slightly smaller, but the results are not very good." ”
Sanshaji is the effect of rendering 3D into 2D, and many people in Japan have tried similar effects, wanting to make 3D games and animations that are the same as 2D.
"Because of the 3D system, the thickness of the lines is the same, and when you draw by hand in 2D, the lines and coloring can be adjusted, but if you force the rendering, the thickness of the lines in the picture is the same, and there are a lot of extra lines, so the look and feel of the picture is not good......
There is also a senior painter Ji Ye here.,About this matter.,Here is also an opinion.。
Huang Lei also added: "The other is the light and shadow effect, and the material patch on the 3D side is pasted according to the surface. The transition of different colors is also done by the faces, and the edge lines of the faces are the edge lines of different colors. But we're a game, and unless we consume performance heaps, it's a problem in terms of fineness. However, without making a complex 3D model, it is impossible to show the detailed performance of muscles in motion...... Well, this feeling is the same as human skin being a metal shell. ”
Kuroshima Ichiro nodded, and then added: "The reason why the sense of disobedience in "Lelouch of the Rebellious" is not strong is because most of the models in it are mecha and metal products, and the mecha is originally a hard shell, so the sense of disobedience is naturally weak, coupled with the use of Live2D technology, the effect is naturally better." ”
Anyone who engages in rendering knows that the same is rendering, with different materials, different rendering methods, and different rendering accuracy, and the final thing that comes out can be said to have a world of difference.
"This ......"
Senxia is also a little nerve-wracking.
"If you want to say that our characters are all wearing the kind of latex tights that wrap around the whole body, it's okay to do that, and it consumes very little resources, besides, don't you like that kind of thing very much?" Ayana remembered that Mori Xia seemed to like this kind of thing.
Although latex tights are a lot to complain about, in theory, latex tights are indeed a very convenient design, because this kind of clothing does not require complex surfaces and lines, and if optimized properly, it does not even need textures, which can be said to be quite convenient.
Not to mention, in fact, sometimes, similar latex tights can really appear, such as in comics and animations such as Killing City, or in the classic harmonious scene of a large oriental country.
And latex tights are sometimes really more sensual than large-scale exposure, for example, in a game called FF15, a certain character adds a tights, which is even more sensitive......
But such a convenient setting can only be used in some aspects, and in most cases, the character's clothing is likely to be a variety of lace dresses with complex patterns, and this type of resource consumption is great.
If it is made to be similar to the effect of three shades and two, if you want to make the picture comfortable and good-looking, then the gorgeous and bright picture is a must. Color is definitely in a very important position in two-dimensional animation.
It's easy to make a three-shade two, but it's very difficult to make the performance better.
"In terms of pure sensory stimulation, I personally think that realism is better. Himeha offered her own opinion.
"Is that so?" said Senxia, thoughtfully.
At this time, Mori Xia thought of a lot of 3D fanworks.
What Mei Ma Lu, what a sleeping demon, these are more typical representatives.
In addition, games such as Overwatch and World of Warcraft also have people with workman-oriented animations.
These styles are all realistic 3D styles.
And as for similar animation styles,,There are a lot of them.,But it's mainly an extension of secondary creation.,For example, U-turn senior...... No, it's Sister Bama who was given this and that thing by the doctors in the hospital, this is a typical two-dimensional style.
"What style should I use?" Sen Xia also fell into a tangle.
At this time, it seems that what style you use on your side is not quite right.
"Technically, which one is better?" Sen Xia asked.
"Realistic. Huang Lei said, "Whether it is motion capture or facial capture, it is better to use it in realism." ”
In the future, our works will use realistic style, and then fantasy style, similar to the style of three shades and two. ”
Senxia made a decision.
"In other words, we went to Mink to make this game, is it in a realistic style?" Qianjia confirmed to Mori Xia.
Sen Xia nodded: "Well, the theme of the hospital, no matter how heavy the taste is, it is better to do it in a similar realistic style." ”
After the matter here is settled, Senxia can be regarded as relieved here.
"Yo Xi, the next problem is the problem of system performance. ”
After the discussion of the previous questions is completed, the next questions should be the turn of this side of the performance.
"For now, it is actually feasible to achieve this kind of performance with today's machines. "The programmers first gave Senxia a piece of good news. Then, they gave Senxia a bad news: "And with our current machines, probably only DC and PS2 with announced technical parameters can be achieved, PC, although it can be achieved with the hardware itself, but the problem is that adapting to the PC itself is a difficult thing." ”
If it only takes a year to make a game for the platform, it will take about a year and a half to adapt it to the PC.
In terms of the performance of mainstream computer machines after a year to a year and a half, it may be possible to run such a game, but in order to debug and adapt, it will take a lot of effort.
"Hmm...... It's not a problem technically, it's not a problem, right?"
If you can do it, let's do it.
"What about DC?"
Qianjia felt that it seemed a pity to give up DC like this.
"Make a harmonious version, if you can do it. ”
Sen Xia himself was weak in his heart.
A harmonious version of the ward at night?
What is the story of this harmonious version?
"Well, let's talk about it when we ask clearly......"
In the end, Senxia decided that the story would wait until he contacted Mink.
Mink Club is a club founded in 1993 with a cute long-tailed cartoon cat with its logo. The reason why the mink company is called "mink" is also the idea of the president Abiru Shouhiro himself, which means that the games he will make in the future will be as popular as the highest quality fur.
But well...... Well, the work of the club is the most widely circulated, but it is a story with a very strong taste.
However, after thinking about this question for ten seconds, Senxia did not continue to think about it.
Because the taste is very strong, it can be more stimulating and exciting.
Moreover, the world of animation is different from the real world, and some things in the real world that may make people feel more disgusting, in animation, their form of existence is almost logical.
After all, all you see in the picture is words and images, and all you can feel is sensory stimulation.
As for the smell, or something that doesn't fit into the picture, just leave it out and you're all right.
Of course, maybe some people will really feel the smell and taste or something, and as for this kind of "true gentleman", as a senior gentleman, Senxia, can only express worship.
With that figured out that, that's pretty much the end of the question.
"And then there's the actors. After Senxia finished speaking, Qianjia raised another question, "We still need special personnel to perform motion capture, right?"
Motion capture is not a simple matter, and since Senxia has decided to use motion capture technology, then motion capture itself will become an element that determines the quality of the action.
In a big eastern country, there's a game called Bloody Battle on the Beach, and in this game, motion capture technology is used - well, really, they do use motion capture!
Although the movements they did in the end didn't seem to have much to do with real people, they did use motion capture technology!
Although almost all of them probably didn't see it, they did use it......
It is precisely because of the lessons learned from the past that when Qianjia talked about this issue, Sen Xia also nodded in agreement: "And if we can, I think we can let these actors themselves shoot again." This kind of live-action reference is very helpful in terms of gameplay, maybe the cost will go up a little, but in general, it is not a problem, and it is beneficial for our work to have a quality that is stronger than others. ”
Although it feels more like a romantic action movie, it is actually a romantic action movie, but Mori Xia believes that these presets are necessary when shooting.
There are a lot of productions that, before they are made, almost always have a live-action version of the production, and some of them are even made according to the requirements of the TV series - although the players may not see it.
It's not about wearing tights and having the actors rehearse, but actually filming it as a reference for the production of the game.
"In this case, it will be more difficult to find actors...... Qian Jia said, "Although we can ask actors who are professional actors to shoot romantic action movies, but ...... Don't you think that acting is pompous?"
Some of the images may be good from a Japanese perspective, but from a global perspective, some of them are really ...... The acting is exaggerated.
To use a bad line, it is "You have a weak backhand, a weak forehand, loose steps, slow reactions, and no decent movements, what are you going to compete with me on the same stage?!"
"If you are an actor, in fact, there are people all over the world, and you can find a lot of people who don't have discipline, but if you want to have superb acting skills and be able to pull your face, there are relatively few, and there are even fewer people who are willing to do it all the time. "We have to develop our own cast so that we can maintain stability." ”
For the sake of money, some people may be able to do it once or twice, but they will definitely not do it for a long time.
And what Senxia needs here is precisely this kind of talent who needs to shoot for a long time.
"Yes, there are very few such talents......"
This kind of thing, even if you go to someone from a big eastern country, you can't do it. The people over there are very energetic, and there is no problem in filming one or two films, but they have been doing it all the time...... Forget it.
"Let's go to Europe and the United States to find professional actors for romantic action films, or go to Romania to collect two cute girls or something?" Senxia said a little like he was complaining, after all, this matter hurts no matter how you look at it.
"But if it's Europe and the United States, it's very troublesome in terms of body type, after all, we have to make a reference......" Kuroshima Ichiro put forward a view.
If it's pure motion capture, it's nothing, but since you have to shoot a live-action reference, it definitely won't work.
"Well, let me figure it out!" At this time, Qianjia suddenly put forward her opinion.
"Eh, senior sister, can you handle it?" Sen Xia looked at Qianjia in surprise.
"Leave it to me!" Qianjia also looked at Mori Xia with a planned look......
......
Today's festival. Said the code word at the airport.
The plane was delayed......
I'm going back to Shenzhen~
(To be continued.) )