A secretary of the Central Committee Office came in to make two cups of tea for Zhou Ming and Du Peng, and put them in front of them, Du Zhongyuan said to Zhou Ming: "This is Shifeng Longjing, which was recommended to me by several CEOs back then, and it is also my favorite drink." ”

Due to his family, Zhou Ming didn't know much about tea, but he vaguely remembered that Longjing was divided into several font sizes, and this Shifeng Longjing was the one with the best quality. But even if Zhou Ming doesn't understand, it doesn't matter, the person who can be called the boss by Du Zhongyuan doesn't have to think about it to know that the identity is not simple, and the tea recommended by this kind of identity person, can it be worse?

Zhou Ming lowered his head and took a sip, the fragrance of Longjing made him feel refreshed, Zhou Ming didn't know how to taste tea, but in fact, he didn't have time to taste it for Zhou Ming at this time, because Zhou Ming knew very well, he asked himself before what he thought if he knew that Du Peng was Du Zhongyuan's grandson, this is just an appetizer, and what Du Zhongyuan wants to say later, that is the highlight of today.

Sure enough, after Du Zhongyuan saw Zhou Ming taking a sip of tea and getting ready, he said: "I know that the stock market in Nanjiang was founded by you, and everyone says that you have extraordinary insights into the stock market, so what do you think of the stock market exhibition in Nanjiang?"

"I think it's very necessary. Zhou Ming replied directly without thinking, "In fact, the stock market is not as people see, just buying and selling stocks in it to make money by speculating, his essence is a capital market, an important part of the entire financial economy, and even from a certain point of view, the stock market can even reflect the development of the local economy." ”

"I know that many people are skeptical of Nanjiang's stock market, thinking that it is a crime to rashly engage in the stock market without any laws and regulations, but I think that Nanjiang's economy is still in its infancy, and the most scarce thing is capital, and the stock market can just help Nanjiang raise the funds needed for other exhibitions from the whole society, which is very important. Zhou Ming said.

"Zhou Ming, your idea coincides with Yang Lao's concept of doing first and thinking later. Du Zhongyuan commented with a smile.

Zhou Ming shrugged his shoulders and said: "That's because I also agree with Yang Lao's concept, and even I insisted on getting the stock market out first, but I was actually implementing Yang Lao's exhibition idea." ”

Du Zhongyuan nodded and said: "Indeed, there are some things that should be done first, and then we can do it after we have figured it out, and the opportunity has long been missed." ”

"But when it comes to doing it first and thinking about it later, there are many people at home and abroad who are talking about our current reform and opening up, and that the market economy is taking the capitalist road, and I know that you discussed this issue with the American economist Nordriman when you met him, but I still want to hear if you have any new views. Du Zhongyuan said.

Du Zhongyuan's words solved a mystery in Zhou Ming's heart, it seems that the central government did know when Nordriman came to China, but for some reasons he didn't know, no one received him.

No matter what the reason is, it has nothing to do with me, and it is difficult to explain what is going on in politics.

Zhou Ming put this question behind him, and he replied to Du Zhongyuan: "Chairman Du, I think that thorough public ownership is essentially privatization, and on the contrary, thorough privatization is essentially public ownership, just like the reform of the United States before World War II, in fact, it is also a bit of a socialist road, so can we say that the United States is a socialist country? This is obviously impossible." ”

"I remember that at the beginning of the reform and opening up, Yang Lao said that the purpose of reform and opening up is to make the people of the whole country rich, which is the same as the purpose of our party and the country at the beginning of the establishment, so since the purpose is the same," Zhou Ming said, "this socialism or something else, I think this kind of quarrel has no meaning." ”

"What you say makes a lot of sense, but sometimes quarrels are inevitable, and although you say that there is no point in arguing and you don't want to argue, it doesn't mean that everyone thinks the same way as you. Du Zhongyuan reminded Zhou Ming.

Indeed, for many people in China, what they are best at is opposition, no matter what you say, he can always find a lot of faults, this kind of person is the most annoying.

Zhou Ming thought so and then said: "Chairman Du, if this is the case, then we can also firmly establish a new concept, called the socialist market economy." ”

Zhou Ming's answer can be seen to make Du Zhongyuan's eyes light up, but he still calmly asked Zhou Ming: "Why do you want to call it a socialist market economy? Could it be that if you add socialism to it, this market economy will change?"

"Of course, the market economy is still the market economy, but some of the things in it will change, just like some foreign countries call their market economy a social market economy, don't look at it just by adding two words, but some of the detailed problems in this will change. Zhou Ming said, "As for the socialist market economy I am talking about, it depends on how we define this socialism." ”

"I remember reading in textbooks before that the so-called socialism is to make everything public, and all food and drink are rationed, and even the most basic commodity exchange is not allowed," Zhou Ming asked, "but is this really socialism?"

Du Zhongyuan shook his head and said: "This is absolutely not, and this road has been proven wrong, since the founding of the People's Republic of China for so many years, the whole country has still not been lifted out of poverty, and even getting poorer and poorer, this is definitely not socialism, or it is not the socialism we wanted at the beginning of the revolution." ”

"I very much agree with what you said, Chairman Du," Zhou Ming said, "I think that instead of going to those extremes, it is better to think that socialism is a social ideal of achieving social justice and common prosperity." ”

Du Zhongyuan clapped his hands happily and said: "That's right, social justice and common prosperity should be like this." ”

Therefore, since this social ideal can be achieved by the market economy, and in addition, it is impossible for our domestic system to copy the foreign system, then our economy can be called a socialist market economy. Zhou Ming said.

Du Zhongyuan stretched out his hand and pointed at Zhou Ming and said, "You little comrade, don't look at your age, this kung fu of riding the wall is amazing!"

Du Zhongyuan's words are actually a very high praise for Zhou Ming, the socialist market economy sounds like just a noun, but as Zhou Ming said before, this term contains both public and private aspects, if it is put on the political zhì above the words, it is not to offend the two to take the middle route, just like riding in the middle of the wall on both sides do not fall, sometimes it is also a very clever political attitude.

In the face of Du Zhongyuan's praise, Zhou Ming said a little embarrassed: "Actually, I am also thinking about myself, after all, only the market economy is more liberalized, and people like me can make better money!"

Du Zhongyuan laughed and said: "It's good to make money! That is, those who are able to work more and those who work hard make more money! If everyone doesn't care how much they do, whether they are smart or average, and everyone takes the same money, then won't this society be dead?"

Speaking of this, Du Zhongyuan suddenly thought of something, and he asked Zhou Ming: "By the way, I heard that you have already carried out a pilot project for the reform of state-owned enterprises in Linyang, which is a rare pilot and a new direction of reform, so what do you think about the reform of state-owned enterprises?"

"The reform of state-owned enterprises is a must, after all, the original state-owned enterprises because the cadres only want to promote the official wealth, and other production or anything else does not care at all, so the production efficiency is too low, and it must be restructured!" Zhou Ming said categorically, "Of course, this restructuring must also be cautious, because state-owned enterprises are also enterprises, and they are very valuable things, and under this value, there will be a large number of **!"

Du Zhongyuan thought for a moment with a grim face, and then said: "Judging from the current pilot reform of state-owned enterprises across the country, there are a large number of deposits, so what do you mean by Zhou Ming, is it not suitable for reform now?"

Zhou Ming shook his head and said: "Chairman Du, I didn't say that, I just said that the reform must be prevented, and the reform of state-owned enterprises should not be a comprehensive reform, but should be carried out selective reform, no matter how it is changed, we still have to take some industries related to the lifeblood of the country in our own hands." ”

"Looking at foreign countries, as early as after the reform before World War II, many countries have begun to take over some of the country's pillar industries by the state, if we throw this out now, wouldn't it be going back?" Zhou Ming said, "In my opinion, even if those pillar industries need to be reformed, changed to a joint-stock system to enhance competitiveness or something, it must be carried out on the basis of ensuring that the largest share is the state." ”

Listening to Zhou Ming's words, Du Zhongyuan's face became more and more stern, and he asked Zhou Ming, "How did you think of this?"

This question made Zhou Ming's heart skip a beat, and immediately made him realize that what he said just now was a minefield, judging from the memories of his previous life, at this time, the battle for the central route should have entered a white-hot stage, and there will be an official showdown in less than a year.

Thinking of this, Zhou Ming said: "Chairman Du, in fact, this matter is what I usually come up with, Chairman Du, you also know that ordinary people like us usually like to talk about state affairs when they have nothing to do." ”

In the face of Zhou Ming's answer, Du Zhongyuan was stunned for a moment, he understood that he was afraid that his attitude was too much, so Du Zhongyuan immediately eased his feelings and said: "Zhou Ming, don't be afraid, what I said just now doesn't mean anything else, but I didn't expect this truth to be quarreled within the central government for more than a year, and it is such a simple logic here for you, which really makes the central government feel ashamed." ”

How could Zhou Ming not understand what Du Zhongyuan said to dispel his concerns, but Zhou Ming understood that the political environment of this era was not as relaxed as that of later generations, and he had no background.

So Zhou Ming said: "Actually, it's nothing, after all, the central government is from the perspective of the whole country, and there must be more things to consider, compared to the central leadership, my vision is much narrower, I'm afraid I can't think of too many things." ”

Du Zhongyuan glanced at Zhou Ming deeply and spit out two words: "Slippery head!"

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