428 The people from the 611 Institute came to help us build stealth fighters
"Fifty million!"
Both sides spoke almost in unison.
It's just that the tone of the two sides is completely opposite, Zheng Yucheng gritted his teeth and was angry, as if he gave the 50 million, he really had to kill him, and Xiong Hongyuan's face was helpless, aggrieved, 50 million was already the lowest limit they could compress.
Xie Kai sighed, fifty million, it's really not much.
Especially in the fighter project that often costs billions or tens of billions, 50 million will not make a splash if 50 million is thrown into it.
"Fifty million, it's really not much. Xie Kai said a fair word. "This 50 million, the base should be given. ”
"Xie Kai!" Zheng Yucheng's face became even more ugly, exactly like Grande who was still pointing to the oil lamp before he died.
As he said, the people of Factory 132 are not asking for money, but for his life.
"Xie Kai, there are many places where the base needs money after the New Year. Originally, it was said that it was to cooperate with Pakistan, but now Pakistan has not given a reply, and the attitude is ambiguous......" Wang Guilin also reminded Xie Kai. "Our unit can't support such a big project, and the military has no interest in this project. They have Project 10, and it is impossible to support the simultaneous development of two fighters with similar performance. ”
Speaking of Project No. 10, Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan were both a little helpless.
The No. 10 project has been approved so far, and the technical indicators have not been completely determined, and the military cannot give too much in the budget, which makes the progress of the No. 10 project very slow.
"This is different from Project 10, which was originally for export. Project 10 is a fighter for domestic use. Xie Kai said.
"Yes, one is for foreign users, and the other is for our own troops. Huo Haiyuan also agrees with this statement.
"If there are no users, we will throw more than a billion on this project, unless there is a problem with the head. Zheng Yucheng did not back down, "More than one billion, how many projects can be carried out?" Even if it is just a basic project, tens of thousands of tons of large presses, many units can be produced, which can be used to manufacture Yunten, and if you can't make several improved models, you can make several improved models. ”
Instead of investing money in projects that have not seen benefits for a long time, it is better to use them directly in projects that have already achieved results.
The prototype of the Yun-10 has been made, the test flight is still ongoing, and a lot of funds will be needed to manufacture the prototype for continued test flight.
The demand for passenger aircraft in the civil aviation market is far greater than that of the Super Seven Project, which the domestic military does not look at.
Huo Haiyuan and Xiong Hongyuan both showed a look of loss on their faces.
"The Yun-10 project is also applying for funds to continue to manufacture a prototype, otherwise the large aircraft production system built since the establishment of the project will have to go bankrupt, go bankrupt, or be restructured because ......there is no business," Wang Guilin reminded Xie Kai, "Next year will be a very difficult year, and there are too many places that need funds." ”
At the beginning, I took over Yun-10, that is, for this project, but also to retain the integrity of the domestic large aircraft industry chain.
Xie Kaiming knew that Yun Shi was a pit, and the project was full of defects, so he finally agreed to take over Yun Shi, and even for the integrity of the large aircraft industry chain, he directly encouraged Zheng Yucheng to get on the big press.
Now the large press has also reached the most expensive stage, the production of various parts has begun, the plant where the large press is installed, and the ground hardening project has begun for several months.
50 million, put it into the top 10, you can make another prototype.
"The funds for Yun Shi cannot be broken. Xie Kai nodded and said, "Production capacity must be preserved." ”
"Funding is limited. Pakistan's funding has not been a big problem, but now they are not clear......"
Pakistan has provided $250 million in funding, and only half of the base has been contributed.
Now that the base is all out, the management committee naturally has to think more.
Xie Kai can understand them, these days, a unit alone to engage in such a large project, in the country, is unique.
Moreover, it is the state that invests money in other units, not the units themselves.
"Don't worry about Pakistan, aren't the officials of their air force and relevant departments coming over after a while?" Xie Kai asked.
Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin looked at each other, Wang Guilin shook his head, obviously not knowing what Xie Kai said.
"You kid just opened his mouth and said nonsense, who said that high-ranking Pakistani officials were coming?" Zheng Yucheng asked, "and they never gave a positive answer." ”
"359 tanks, the Pakistani side invested, this time the order of 500 units, think they don't know?" Xie Kai pouted and said, "They hope to use the fighter project to get part of the benefits in tank production." ”
"Aren't all their production lines finished?" asked Zheng Yucheng.
Then he shut up.
Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan know this, which is not a good thing.
"Pakistan needs such fighters, can get technology, can produce at any time, and build its own production line, why not?" Xie Kai explained the reason why Pakistan could not refuse the cooperation of the Super Seven Project, "The Americans have signed contracts with Pakistan for hundreds of F-16 fighters, but let's not forget what the purpose of the Americans to provide fighters is to curb the expansion of the Soviet Union that occupied Afghanistan." ”
The Soviet Union occupied Afghanistan, and that was the invasion of Chiguoguo.
Moreover, Soviet warplanes constantly reconnoiter Pakistan through the border, and constantly provide all kinds of advanced weapons and equipment to the three brothers.
Once Afghanistan invades Pakistan again, they will open a land access to the Indian Ocean, and it will not be easy for the United States to contain the Soviet Union.
"In Afghanistan, the Soviet Union has not been able to effectively resolve the resistance, and it can even be said that it has fallen into the quagmire of war in Afghanistan. Coupled with the sluggish domestic economy, it is even more difficult to maintain in Afghanistan, which consumes huge military expenditures every year...... Under such circumstances, how could the Soviet Union still have the strength to move south?" Xie Kai asked the crowd, "Everyone also knows what is going on with the hidden mountains and refugee camps of the Afghan guerrillas in the north of Pakistan......
This is not a military research center, most of them are from wars, and they don't need to analyze it too thoroughly, they all know what is going on.
The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan mainly because of the geographical importance of Afghanistan.
If the U.S. imperialism later invaded Iraq for oil, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and got some worthless things such as copper ore, and in the end Afghanistan also consumed a huge amount of money for the Soviet Union, and some people even think that the war in Afghanistan accelerated the disintegration of the Soviet Union.
"Therefore, the F-16 fighters provided by the Americans to Pakistan are not very happy, and so far, we have not seen a few of them. And the old opponent is constantly purchasing advanced fighters, and the quantity is already at a disadvantage, and the quality can no longer keep up, if another war breaks out between India and Pakistan, how will it be fought?" Xie Kai asked Zheng Yucheng and the others.
Zheng Yucheng, what do they know?
"What does it matter to us how they fight? I care about whether the other party gives money. Just give money, it's easy to say. Zheng Yucheng's demeanor was obviously much more relaxed, "Is your news reliable?"
"Whether it's reliable or not, won't you know in a few days?" Xie Kai said with a roll of his eyes.
"Then I'll talk about the funding for the Super Seven Project in a few days. Zheng Yucheng said helplessly.
Xie Kai looked at the old guys, obviously, they all don't see rabbits and don't scatter eagles.
Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan couldn't say anything.
They are here to ask for money, even if the project belongs to 404, it is still researched and designed by 611 in the end, and it is produced and manufactured by 132 factory?
"I think our base needs to build a team in the development of fighter aircraft. In this way, it is easy to connect with the project undertaker...... Even, some scientific research projects that the base can afford can be carried out in our base. Xie Kai said suddenly.
Zheng Yucheng and the others couldn't figure out Xie Kai's purpose for a while.
Originally, the management committee wanted to do this at the base, but Xie Kai disagreed, and even the Yunshi team was placed in Qin Fei, borrowing other people's territory, and they were worried that they would be annexed at any time, so they wouldn't even say thank you.
Xie Kai proposed it at this time, obviously to build a fighter research team in the 404 base.
What do you mean?
And Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan didn't know the inside story, thinking that Xie Kai was talking for them.
The 404 base must be reluctant to pay for it.
If a part of the people are divided into 404, and both sides are responsible for some parts, and even some projects are mainly from this side, 611 and 132 factories are the contractors, and the face of the 404 management committee will be much better.
"Comrade Xie Kai's proposal is good, and I also think it is more appropriate. In this way, the base can be informed of the progress of the project at any time, and some core parts can also be completely disclosed to the Pakistanis. Xiong Hongyuan raised his hands in support of Xie Kai's proposal.
He couldn't imagine what Xie Kai was calculating.
If he knew, he wouldn't agree to be killed.
Xie Kai took this opportunity to poach people from Factory 132 and 611.
"The Super Seven Project requires a supercomputer with a computing speed of hundreds of millions of times per second, so let's install it in the base...... If the Super Seven project needs to be simulated and calculated, it will be done directly on our side. In this way, there will be a lot of savings in terms of expenses...... Xie Kai continued.
Huo Haiyuan immediately felt that something was wrong, but he couldn't figure out what Xie Kai was calculating.
The supercomputer was originally said to be invested in the Super 7 Project for simulation and calculation, and it was installed in the 611 Institute, which can be used in the No. 10 project, and through the model established by the Super 7 project, the cost of the No. 10 project is lower and the progress is faster.
Put it in 404, it's not so convenient.
Xiong Hongyuan is not very familiar with supercomputers.
That thing costs twenty or thirty million each, and 404 has always been reluctant to let go of it, and even Zheng Yucheng and others feel that supercomputers are useless.
Engage a team in 404, and also do the work of the Super 7 Project, and even the No. 10 Project can be thrown here to do it, and 404 will bear part of the funds, which is a good thing for the entire 132 factory and 611 Institute.
Is it really that simple?
Zheng Yucheng and the others couldn't figure out Xie Kai's purpose, and seeing that the time was almost noon, they announced a pause and continued the discussion in the afternoon.
As for the Chinese New Year tomorrow, neither side cares.
The Chinese New Year is the business of other cadres and workers, and the leaders are busier during the New Year.
"What are you thinking? Before, we had to get the Yunshi team to the base, and you didn't agree to let the base grow and grow, and now it's starting to do this kind of thing again. After coming down, Zheng Yucheng and a few people directly called Xie Kai to Zheng Yucheng's office, and when they came up, they directly asked Xie Kai to explain.
Qi Zhiyuan and Bai Yanjun are also the same.
Xie Kai didn't answer, but asked Wang Guilin directly, "Director Wang, the 541 base is lent to our technicians, are they still going to go back?"
"I didn't say it, what's wrong?" Wang Guilin was puzzled.
Zheng Yucheng and others were even more puzzled.
"If the people at Base 541 ask them to go back now, are these people still willing to go back?" Xie Kai continued to ask.
"After more than half a year of high-intensity testing, the finalization of the 359 tank is about to end, but it does not mean that the entire project has ended. There are not too many scientific research projects in the hands of the 541 base, and there is no place for these people to go back......"
"What if there is a project at Base 541?" Xie Kai continued.
"Unless the 541 project is more advanced and improved than ours, otherwise, when asking for personal opinions, they will not be willing to give up on continuing to rebuild the 359 tank. At the same time, after the completion of our 359 tank project, there will definitely be more advanced ones. Even if not, I think, with the experience accumulated in the research and development process of the 359 tank, Mr. Zhu will also give us some projects. Wang Guilin explained, "What is the purpose of asking this?"
Zhu Boss's third-generation tank was originally verified by the 359 tank project as some technology.
The R&D progress of 359 can be so fast, which is related to the design plan proposed by Xie Kai, and the greater help is the technical support from the team of the one-armed chief engineer Zhu Lao, the father of the three generations of tanks in China.
With design drawings, if you want to go from drawings to weapons and equipment that can be used, it is definitely not a matter of direct manufacturing.
At the 541 base, most of the production capacity is transferred to civilian production, and the third-generation tank building may be divided into a part, but research and development is absolutely not their business.
The people involved in the design were all brought to the base's armored research institute by 404 people.
"What do you want to do with so many questions? That's money!" Zheng Yucheng's eyes narrowed into a slit.
Qi Zhiyuan and Bai Yanjun obviously also wanted to figure out Xie Kai's purpose.
"If we engage in a more advanced fighter project, in the end, will the people of the 611 Institute still want to go back?" Xie Kai said his purpose, "The new generation of stealth bombers in the United States has been put into service, and their stealth fighters already have prototypes......
"What's that?"
The crowd was shocked.
"Don't be so surprised. If we want to do it, we will make it big, and it is not interesting to always catch up with the world's advanced, so it is better for us to directly start designing and studying the fourth-generation fighters of the Western world and the fifth-generation fighters of the Soviet standard. Xie Kai's face was calm.
Once you are reborn, you have to go crazy.