402 Large, 200 fighter engines at a time

"Don't think I'm friends with your father and make up all sorts of data. Kaletovsky's face was distorted.

Xie Kai knows too much.

Such a person should not live in the world, and should be killed by the KGB, and his bones should be scattered.

But people are living well, and they are also their negotiating opponents, and they don't know what China needs engines for, what the projects are, and what the technical indicators are.

"Uncle Ski, isn't that so, we all know it in our hearts?" Xie Kai's face was extremely calm, "So, I think we both show sincerity and can't waste time on bargaining like buying and selling Chinese cabbage." Isn't it more appropriate to reach a cooperation agreement as soon as possible, and let's catch up together?"

The problem with the MiG-29 now is not because of the fuel consumption of the engine.

No matter how fuel-efficient the engine is, it is strange that the legs are not short when the fuel carried by the aircraft is not enough.

The two RD-33s have increased the maximum take-off weight of the MiG-29 a lot, but due to the extremely strict acceptance standards of the military, if you want to increase the amount of fuel carried and achieve various performance indicators, the aircraft body structure is more demanding.

Improving the structure of the aircraft requires more experiments, which is not a good thing for both the design unit and the manufacturing unit.

Especially on issues such as cost.

Whether it is NATO countries, the Soviet Union, or China, the acceptance of military products is extremely strict.

If the acceptance cannot be passed, the troops cannot be equipped.

Once the design is modified, it will be endless.

In order for the troops to have equipment available, naturally only concessions can be made in terms of performance requirements.

"2.5 million, the lowest price. "The Soviets made concessions on price.

"750,000. Xie Jianguo also bargained. "Driver, although we do not represent the country, it is impossible for the superiors to ignore such cooperation. So, what that means, everybody understands......"

He also doesn't have a high price.

Even if you know that this price is not possible, an engine will have to cost at least a million dollars.

Knowing the character of the Soviets, it is natural that the reserve price cannot be given.

"2 million, it's really indispensable. The cost of such an engine is never low. "I just said that it was the lowest price, and immediately it was $500,000 less, and $50 million for 100 units. "This is a concession made to improve relations between our two countries. A hundred engines, that's $50 million less. ”

Kaletovsky's heart was dripping blood.

Of course, this is the money of the state, and it has nothing to do with him.

"Uncle Ski, it's too hard to talk about this price. Xie Kai shook his head, "We can't afford such a price." And this engine is not worth so much. And, you need money. ”

"Who doesn't need funds?" Chekov said with a shocked look in his heart, "only with sufficient R&D funds can we continue to improve and improve performance." ”

Xie Kai looked at the old man and sighed, "The economy of the Soviet Union is very difficult now, right?"

Xie Jianguo couldn't wait to slap this kid to death.

Dare to say anything.

The Soviets are more serious about saving face than the Chinese people.

"No matter how difficult it is, I don't know how many times better it is than China. Sure enough, Kaletovsky's face became gloomy, "If you don't want to talk about it, you don't have to talk about it." ”

"I'm just talking about the facts. Xie Kai still didn't back down. "The Soviet Union seems to be in an advantageous position in the competition with the United States, and your country's main focus is now on competing with the Americans for the commanding heights of space strategy...... This is too much economic consumption, isn't it? The Americans have no money, they can rob the little devils, they can rob the Germans, and even the whole of Europe, who can the Soviet Union rob? Those union republics are already poor, and few countries in the same camp have money, otherwise, they would not have learned from our country to carry out economic reforms. ”

The Soviets were silent.

What Xie Kai is talking about is the dilemma that the Soviet Union is now facing.

With regard to the fact that some Chinese units took the initiative to import aircraft engines from the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was not only considering improving relations between the two countries and reducing military expenditures, but also had the idea of seeking a market from China to obtain a source of funds.

"It's just that the economic reforms in the Soviet Union are different from ours. China's military strength is not strong in the first place, in order to keep the people of the whole country fed and clothed, and enter a moderately prosperous society in an all-round way in the 21 st century, so it has almost given up military development and given priority to the development of the national economy...... "Xie Kai continued, "The Soviet Union is different from us, and the competition with the United States has reached a critical moment, and if it is abandoned, it may be seriously threatened by the national security of Western countries; if it continues, then the national economy will be even more overwhelmed......

The Soviet Union has now been completely difficult to ride a tiger.

In particular, the current economic reform of the Soviet Union still focuses on the field of heavy industry, that is, the field of military industry, rather than on light industry and the national economic base to improve the people's living standards.

In addition, the corruption in the Soviet Union was very serious, and the leaders who had ruled the entire Soviet Union for more than ten years reported and reused their cronies, and became a huge privileged class.

Reform will touch the interests of the privileged stratum, and the resistance will naturally be great.

This is the doomed failure of Soviet reforms.

In China, everyone wants to fill their stomachs, and the top level of the state also thinks about the people's food and clothing, and there is no pressure like the Soviet Union.

So, the USSR needed Chinese money.

Even if it's not much, you can do a lot.

Xie Kai has the initiative, so naturally he will not back down on this.

"A hundred engines, just a preliminary demand, we can sign a contract of intent for two hundred or more. The Chinese Air Force needs to replace with new equipment, and in the era when the third-generation fighters have become the mainstream in the world, the Chinese Air Force still uses the J-7, an imitation of the MiG-23, and the J-8, which is designed with the J-7 as a reference, as the main model, how huge the demand is, you should know ...... "Xie Kai began to draw cakes for the Soviets.

The Chinese Air Force has a huge demand for a new generation of fighters.

9.6 million square kilometers of territory, 3 million square kilometers of territorial waters, these areas, all need the air force to guard.

And so far, China does not have a third-generation fighter.

That is, the market for Soviet MiG-29 fighters with the same performance is completely blank.

"Is this true? Not that you don't have the support of your air force?" said one of the Soviets in his own mind. "Isn't this your own project?"

"Can any kind of advanced fighter project be carried out without the support of the military? How much research and development funds are needed to develop a fighter? Even those large military industrial enterprises in the United States cannot support it...... Xie Kai will never tell the Soviets that the military does not have any support for this project at all.

Moreover, the military itself has a research plan for a new generation of fighters - the No. 10 project settled in Rongfei and the 611 Institute.

"Yes, if we can't get the support of the Air Force, we can't seek to find engines from your country. Xie Jianguo knew that Xie Kai was lying, and in order to let the Soviets see the huge market in the future and increase his bargaining chips and persuasion, he would not stick to his pedantic principles.

The interests of the country are paramount.

With the support of the Air Force, there can be a future.

"So, Uncle Driver, give me a real price. Xie Kai saw that after talking for so long, he hadn't been able to do something real, so he couldn't continue.

RD-33, the other side will definitely sell.

It's just that in terms of price, the Soviets, who are now poor, want to slaughter big households.

Definitely not.

"$1.75 million, it really can't be lowered, below this price, we can't call the shots. Chekov and the others discussed it for a while, and finally replied like this.

It will definitely reduce the price.

In these years, the RD-33 engine is not worth the price.

Especially the Soviets, the price of less, 250,000 dollars less at once, will definitely be less.

"$850,000!" Xie Jianguo also discussed with the people here and quoted such a price.

It's exactly the style of the Soviets bargaining.

Even, up to now, the price has not reached 30% of the price quoted by the Soviets, and the Soviets themselves have reduced the price by more than 40%.

The Soviets quoted, there was too much moisture.

Xie Kai knew that the price could still be suppressed, whether the Soviet Union sought to improve relations with China, or the Soviets tried to recover the money, they would not give up.

One hundred units, which is also more than 100 million dollars.

According to the Soviet model of production, the cost would be absolutely unimaginably low.

At another time and in a different social environment, this kind of negotiation is unlikely to succeed.

Think about how much the country paid for the engine from Lao Maozi's hands back then, you can imagine it.

"Thank you, we have given enough sincerity. ”

"Uncle driver, since we are old friends, and we have a traditional friendship, otherwise, 1 million US dollars each, the first batch of 100 units will be ordered, and the delivery will be completed within five years...... All the funds, we will give cash!" Xie Kai relented and raised the price by $150,000 at once.

Moreover, when there is no design success, a hundred engines are ordered directly!

"Are you crazy? Our design hasn't come out yet, and the prototype hasn't started trial production!" Xie Jianguo took the lead in jumping out against Xie Kai's behavior.

If the design is not successful, those engines are left in the hands and wasted.

In five years, it will simply not be possible to carry out large-scale equipment.

Even if it's a million dollars, that's hundreds of millions of dollars!

How can the base afford it?

"$1.5 million, order 200 units at a time, and deliver them all in five years!" the Soviets also lashed.

They are short of money!

And there is too much missing.

300 million US dollars, dozens of more MiG-29 fighters can be produced.

According to their cost price, more than 400 engines can be produced!

The Chinese ordered 200 units, how to use them, the USSR could not control.

Once used, if there is a demand in the end, it is not allowed to continue to order?