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"It's very remarkable!" Li Kaiyuan said with a smile: "We have finally appeared in Huaxia Country a company that can compete with these telecom giants. ”

"This is mainly driven by the domestic market, Huaxing communication equipment company in the international influence is not enough, and now Europe and the United States are now building their own 3G communication network construction, our country's WLAN communication network is now only in Russia and the CIS and South Asia These countries are still building a little bit of economic development, and the sales of WLAN mobile phones digested are still not much. ”

"Have you figured out how to get into these markets?"

"I have asked Luo Zhen to talk to Nokia, Ericsson, Qualcomm and other companies about the cross-licensing of technology patents, and it is estimated that the negotiations will be completed in the second half of the year, and then Huaxing Communication Equipment Company's various products can enter these European and American countries without paying licensing fees. ”

"This is the great benefit of mastering the core technology, which is no longer controlled by others, and can greatly stimulate the domestic economy. Li Kaiyuan said with emotion: "This year, the overall economy of Minnan Province is expected to exceed 300 billion, and the economic pull effect of mobile phones and wafer factories is very obvious. ”

Minnan Province has now become the largest mobile phone production base in China, last year to undertake the production capacity of nearly 20 million mobile phones, this year can reach more than 40 million production capacity, large and small supporting enterprises add up to hundreds, absorbing nearly one million production employees, plus a variety of related industry personnel to provide a total of millions of jobs.

"Now there has been great progress in the communication and semiconductor industry and the automobile industry in China, but many industries in the United States are ahead, there are many industrial models that can be used for reference, what new industries can Huaxing Technology Group Co., Ltd. create?"

"Uncle Li is really far-sighted!"

Yang Jie said with a smile: "Strictly speaking, our Huaxia country has missed the first two industrial revolutions, the third IT industry, our country has finally caught the tail, just like the first two industrial revolutions, the revolution of the IT industry also has a limit, and now scientists all over the world are racking their brains to shorten the width of the transistor gate can make the CPU integrate more transistors or reduce the area and power consumption of the transistor, and cut the cost of CPU silicon wafers." As the number of transistors in a chip increases, the insulating layer, which is only a few atoms thick, becomes thinner and leaks current. However, once the gate length of the transistor is lower than 7nm, the electrons in the transistor are prone to tunneling, which brings great challenges to chip manufacturing. ”

"However, even if there is a new transistor material at that time, but the limit can only be 1nm, but this requires an incomparably huge investment of money and manpower, and at that time, perhaps the United States may not be able to overcome this technical difficulty with the country's efforts, and the IT industry will be at the peak of the stagnation of the manufacturing process, and then carry out a very long period of stagnation, and the peak of the state is at most 30 years, but it is similar to the peak of the internal combustion engine. ”

"The fourth industrial revolution may be artificial intelligence, maybe the Internet of Things, but I think these are the products born in the field of IT industry and communication technology, and will not have any fundamental changes to the current human access to energy, the real fourth revolution should be a breakthrough in new energy technology. ”

"You mean fusion energy?" asked Li Kaiyuan.

"Yes, now the way human beings obtain energy is mainly focused on fossil energy, nuclear power energy will produce a large amount of nuclear waste, and the world's uranium ore is also limited, all this energy will cause serious pollution, if you can't find a suitable alternative energy, eventually human beings will enter a period of great regression of civilization because of resource depletion, because solar energy, hydropower, wind energy alone can not meet the needs of human beings all over the world. However, I think that if the breakthrough of fuel cells and hydrogen production methods can still maintain the prosperity of the existing human civilization, and when the technology of nuclear fusion, a way to obtain energy, matures, then mankind will enter an era of great development, which is enough to support mankind to enter the era of space navigation. ”

"It's no wonder that you've been rallying people to develop fuel cell technology, you've had this plan for a long time. Li Kaiyuan asked: "At present, the production of hydrogen is basically a by-product of electrolysis and oil refining industry, and it still depends on fossil energy."

"Uncle Li, in fact, Professor Ren Nanqi of Harbin Institute of Technology in our country has been researching and developing bio-hydrogen production technology in the eighties, and has not stopped, this technology is at the forefront of the world, I have learned about Professor Ren's bio-hydrogen production technology and equipment, the technology is almost mature, Meixihu University has been in contact with Harbin Institute of Technology in cooperation to prepare to establish a large-scale bio-hydrogen production plant, with a design capacity of 1,000 cubic meters per year. ”

Yang Jie said: "Although at this stage, the production capacity of high-purity hydrogen can only produce more than 20 kilograms a year is really low, but this is a very promising hydrogen production technology route, and there is still a lot of room for technical improvement. ”

"In addition, Meixi Lake will also study the technical route of photocracking hydrogen production, although it may not be possible to achieve commercial large-scale utilization at this stage, but it is still necessary to make technical preparations for the depletion of fossil fuels. ”

"How is the progress of your company's fuel cell research and development now?" asked Li Kaiyuan.

"I still want to report to Uncle Li, the ten-kilowatt power stack trial-produced by the electrochemistry laboratory has been running at full power for 7,000 hours, although the proton exchange membrane of the stack has signs of aging performance decline, but the signs of attenuation are relatively stable, and the life of the proton exchange membrane is expected to reach about 12,000 hours, which has reached the same level as the life of the whole car. ”

Yang Jie said with a smile: "Now the laboratory is trial-producing different types of fuel cell stacks with a power of 100 kilowatts, 50 kilowatts and 30 kilowatts. ”

"Why should it be prioritized on city buses?" asked Li Kaiyuan.

"The bus line route is relatively fixed, the need for hydrogen refueling stations is also less, if it can be promoted in several provinces and cities, at least tens of thousands of green hydrogen fuel buses are needed, if the country is promoted in a large area, at least 100,000 units are needed, so as to ensure that there are hydrogen refueling stations in large, medium and small cities across the country, and can ensure that Zhongyuan Automobile Company has enough profits in the production of fuel cell buses and hydrogen refueling stations, and it is much easier to launch taxis and private cars on this basis." ”

"When enough taxis and private cars are launched, I think other domestic companies will not see the huge profits of this market, and they will surely enter this market in a heap, and the domestic fuel cell industry will begin to take off." ”

"When will your fuel cell technology mature?" asked Li Kaiyuan quickly.

"Uncle Li, according to the R&D progress of the electrochemistry laboratory, it will take two years to test the 100-kilowatt fuel cell to be launched, and it will take at least more than three years to develop fuel cell buses. I estimate that it will take another 10 years for a large-scale rollout. ”

Yang Jie said: "Now Germany's BMW, Mercedes and Toyota are all throwing money on fuel cell vehicles, but they all want to put fuel cells on small cars, I personally am not very optimistic about this business route, if you don't solve the problem of hydrogen refueling stations first, you can't push it by selling high-end cars to make profits." ”

"In addition, the catalyst in our electrochemistry laboratory has achieved that the cost of fuel cells is only half of that of existing fuel cells, and we can reduce the cost after mass production, and it is estimated that the cost of fuel cell plants launched in one or four years will be close to that of ordinary vehicles. ”

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