477 The country needs your stomach to subdue the damned Soviets
"They want to acquire technology rather than just buying equipment, as in countries like India!" reminded Alexei Federov.
The Chinese have always wanted to acquire manufacturing technology.
And they also want to get a full set of technology at the lowest price, and even technical information is expected to be available.
"Just drink them down at the table, it's all very easy. Many of them had studied in the Soviet Union. Compared to the United States, we have an advantage. First, we have helped build China's industrial base, and it is relatively easy for them to maintain and support the introduction of MiG fighters, and at the same time, we have to show them the prospect of purchasing MiGs that may provide production lines; second, although our relations with China have not been very good in recent years, their relations with the United States are also not very good, and they are only using each other...... Third, the Chinese fighters are all of the MiG series, and these days Chinese officials are visiting MiG-related design bureaus and factories in our country......
Alexei Federov listed a whole bunch of advantages.
For MiG, it has a very thorough understanding of China's aerospace industry.
The arrangement of the Soviet side was also to promote the MiG-29, after all, no one was willing to sell the most advanced weapons and equipment.
In the previous time, the Soviet personnel accompanied the Chinese delegation to visit three research institutes for fluid power and engines, one design bureau, four factories including the MiG-29 aircraft and engine manufacturing plant, an aviation flight control center, an aerospace training center, a launch site, and air and naval bases.
The Su-27, which has not yet been announced to the public, has not been contacted by the Chinese delegation.
China simply did not know about the existence of the Su-27.
"In addition, China has been in contact with France for a long time before, and has negotiated the purchase of the French Mirage-2000, and the French offer is unaffordable for Chinese, much higher than the price they expected, and even, China's senior leaders have personally communicated with the French president, hoping that the French side will give a friendship price in the spirit of friendship between the two sides...... However, the French were very realistic, friendship to friendship, business to business, and in the end there was no progress in negotiations for more than two years. In addition, the Americans are obviously unwilling to help China improve its fighters, and it is urgent to change the situation of the Chinese Air Force, which is more than 25 years behind the world's advanced air force, and the situation of many quantities and poor quality, the best choice is our MiG......"
These messages are easy to obtain.
After entering the 80s, the main models of the new generation of various countries have been made public one after another, and even participated in actual combat and performed extremely dazzlingly.
In the early 80s, due to the fact that the weapons and equipment of the Chinese Air Force lagged behind the world level for the first time since the founding of the People's Republic of China, even the J-7, which copied the Soviet MiG-21, gradually solved the quality problem in this era, matured its technology and equipped the Air Force in large quantities.
The Chinese Air Force, which lags too far behind the world's advanced fighters, is naturally worrisome.
It will take too long to solve this situation by relying on China's own imperfect and inexperienced aviation system.
China can only purchase advanced fighters to improve the combat capability of the air force as quickly as possible. And after the introduction of fighters, they will be gradually digested and absorbed, and imitation will be carried out in order to narrow the gap in the future.
This is where Alexei Federov's confidence lies.
"Why don't we arrange a flight show of the MiG-29 tomorrow and then negotiate?" suggested Nikolai Skobling to be on the safe side, "Previously, the Chinese delegation had only visited the static display of MiG-29, MiG-23ML and Su-25 aircraft at the Kozhdub Aviation Technology and Equipment Exhibition Center. Although the performance was introduced, the air show gave them a better understanding of the combat performance......"
In Nikolai Skoblein's opinion, it would be easier for the Chinese delegation to better understand the combat performance of the MiG-29 fighter before negotiating.
Even the combat performance has not been shown, how can it make customers tempted?
"But we weren't ready yet, the original plan was to make a plan for the air show according to their expectations after the preliminary contact...... the general said with a frown.
Although the combat performance of the MiG-29 is advanced, relatively speaking, it still has many shortcomings.
The air show needs to be carefully prepared to be perfectly presented to the customer.
If there is no problem with the Su-27, the MiG will not work, and even the Dnieper will not be able to fly, although the maneuverability has improved, it will not be easy in front of the Chinese Air Force personnel who understand the performance of the MiG aircraft and are familiar with the situation.
"The pilots of our performance team are the best, and the MiG fighters are worse than the Su-27, and they can't do Cobra maneuvers and other actions, but they are not too bad, and regular performances are enough. Alexei Federov said nonchalantly. "The MiG-29 surpasses the MiG-21 they have too much. ”
China has not even completely completed the imitation of the MiG-21.
Even if it is done, in the absence of a choice, it can only be equipped with a large number of these backward fighters.
"Alexey, although judging by various circumstances, it is logical for the Chinese Air Force to continue to purchase our MiGs, but we cannot take it lightly. They are also negotiating with the French to purchase the Mirage-2000, and even China can introduce European Rafale, Tornado and other fighters, as well as the American F-16 ......"
Nikolai Skoblen's words made everyone feel that this negotiation was not easy.
China originally had good relations with the Soviet Union, and it was a fraternal country.
In the late 70s, in order to confront the Soviet Union, Europe and the United States co-opted China, and even launched large-scale military scientific and technological cooperation as a "model of peace" in the 80s.
Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that China is now coming to the Soviet Union to seek fighter planes in order to put pressure on the French to lower their prices.
"Ladies and gentlemen, although China has a great need for fighter jets, so that it can form a large-scale combat effect and meet the defense of their huge territory. But there is a problem that I have to pay attention to, in the current situation, China's military spending is very small, and the amount of money they can take out to purchase fighters is even less......" Nikolai Skobling saw that Alexei Federov didn't care too much, and he was faintly worried in his heart, "And at present, we need foreign exchange in our country, and the national treasury has begun to be unable to pay for the huge cost of replacing fighters, and has even begun to reduce the production of fighters......"
For this deal, both the MiG company and the Soviet Union urgently needed.
Can't be despised either.
"Then I will arrange it as soon as possible, and communicate first tomorrow, China and the Soviet Union had very good relations in the past, but now they have just thawed, and they have not even officially restored diplomatic relations. You can talk about friendship with them together, recall the original friendship, and test their bottom line. Take them to see the flight show in the afternoon, drink them down in the evening, and the day after tomorrow begin formal negotiations......" The general from the Arbat Military District finally decided.
Next to the villa where Xie Jianguo and others stayed was a representative of the Air Force.
At this time, a major general in charge was discussing with his subordinates how to contact the Soviets tomorrow.
"Tomorrow, everybody has to take action. Comrade Xie Jianguo and others, who came here first, said that the best fighter of the Soviet Union was not the MiG-29, but the Su-27 heavy fighter, which had not yet been made public. We need such fighters......" the general said to the crowd.
"Deputy commander, the other party has not announced it to the public, so we don't want to mention it. In the past, they would show us a flight in the air, but this time it was a static display, and they didn't see heavy fighters at all...... "said one colonel.
The entire delegation had been in the USSR for a short time, and the Soviets did not seem to be very enthusiastic.
It did not correspond to the information provided to the mission.
Others are worried.
"Comrades, don't be pressured, this time, our superiors' instructions are very clear, only to examine Soviet fighters suitable for our national conditions, and not necessarily to negotiate successfully and sign a contract. "The Major General knows the pressure from everyone.
But everyone doesn't know that the above asked them to come this time just to understand the situation of Soviet fighters.
Compare the price and performance gap with European countries and the United States, evaluate how big the gap is between the level of domestic air force construction and the international advanced one, determine the direction of air force development, and formulate a development plan.
"Chief, is it really just an inspection?"
"Yes. We are not formal this time, diplomatic relations between the two sides have not yet returned to normal, to see if the Soviet Union really wants to have good relations with us, or just to hold us back. The general said.
It stands to reason that such things should not be said here, for fear that the Soviets will listen.
He said it anyway.
Negotiations on the purchase of fighter planes are not at all something that can be done with a single contact and a formal contract can be signed.
"Chief, do you know the Soviets, they show the most advanced fighters? I have visited so many of their units, and I have never heard anyone introduce them. And Xie Jianguo: They are only here to purchase engines...... "A lieutenant colonel said. "Besides, those 404 people don't know about fighters or anything at all, maybe they have been fooled. ”
For Xie Jianguo, in essence, he looked down on them.
A unit without any foundation, relying on a little money, actually dared to launch the fighter project, and it also purchased 200 engines from the Soviet Union at a time, and was not afraid that the fighter would not be sold.
"The comrades of 404 know more about the Soviet Union than you do. Most of the members of their delegation had a background of studying in the Soviet Union. In particular, Comrade Xie Jianguo came forward to return from the Soviet Union. General Lin Hu knew that some of his officers looked down on the 404 people.
If they have money, they don't care if they have the technical ability or not, they want to meddle with anything.
Tanks, missiles, warplanes, large planes......
It was just a combat-ready scientific research unit with only more than 30,000 people, and the technical research team was evacuated......
The general understands everyone's thoughts, which is emotionally difficult to accept.
"As long as they are installed in China, they will show us the Su-27!" said the general with a smile, "The Soviets are most afraid that others will not know how rich their family is." ”
This white major general wearing the uniform of the PLA Air Force is none other than General Lin Hu, deputy commander of the Air Force, who has Russian ancestry, who once fought side by side with the comrades of the Soviet Air Force on the battlefield to resist US aggression and aid Korea, and knows the Soviets very well.
"So, it's up to our wine commander. After General Lin Hu finished speaking, he looked at a young lieutenant colonel under his command, who was extremely thin, like a bamboo pole, and could be blown away by a gust of wind on the streets of Moscow.
The eyes of the others also looked at the lieutenant colonel.
"Chief, don't worry, I don't have any other skills, I'm good at drinking. Tomorrow I will use my stomach to fuck the damn old hair! Let them know that we Chinese are more powerful than them when it comes to drinking!" the young lieutenant colonel assured a white major general with a chest that had no two or two flesh. "So far, the people who have been able to drink me have not yet given birth. ”
General Lin Hu looked at him and didn't show a relaxed expression, "Although you haven't been poured out, the amount of alcohol they drink is not given for free, especially if it is likely that a group of them will be on the subject of discipline, they don't talk about it......"
"You don't know that the Soviet generals, who are heavy drinkers and love to change glasses with high spirits, are most fond of bullying their socialist brothers with such tricks. In their eyes, at the wine table, the contest has begun. As long as you embarrass people at the wine table, you have a psychological advantage in negotiations...... "said the general.
Ustinov's law is known to those who have business dealings with the Soviet Union.
The Soviets have always liked to negotiate at the wine table first.
"Chief, please rest assured! Since you have chosen me, I will not disgrace the country and the army, and kill them with my stomach at the wine table!" The lieutenant colonel assured loudly.
"Keep it quiet, for fear they don't know what?" said the Major General with a smile. "I borrowed you from the headquarters for this purpose, and I certainly believe in your ability. This is their home turf, and I'm afraid of their wheel wars. ”
"Please rest assured, chief, that they will come in vertically and go out horizontally! The lieutenant colonel patted his chest and reassured.
This is really not a lieutenant colonel boasting, but he has a special physique, and since he was a child, he has never been drunk.
Originally, he was only a manager of the officers' canteen of the headquarters organs, and he was a logistics officer who had nothing to do with this contact, and he was known for never being able to get drunk in the canteen of the headquarters organs.
This is not because he has a good amount of alcohol, but after the doctor's examination, it was found that he can secrete a special element in his body, and even the spirits of the world cannot have any effect on him.
General Lin Hu, who was so familiar with the character and style of the Russians that he could no longer be familiar with it, made a special trip to seconded him out in order to use the methods of the Soviets to counter their army.
When the time comes, the Soviets will be killed on the project in which they have an advantage, and it will be easy to talk about anything.
"It's good to have confidence, everyone rest early, and play with them tomorrow. General Lin Hu nodded with satisfaction.