860 turbofan-6 export, the opportunity of domestic aviation development
"General, the spare engine is doing so much ......" Xie Kai's throat was a little dry.
Who would have thought that in the end, the RD-33s that were originally disliked by others would not be enough in the end?
Iraqis are so bold and arrogant.
Obviously, these bastards are for the sake of the Super-7B, and not really buy so many spare engines, and even, they may look for opportunities to get the technology to assemble the MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter.
"That's all!" Ibrahim could not refuse.
120 Super -7A, plus 120 spare engines, is exactly what 120 Super -7B needs.
They are not afraid that the Chinese will default on their debts when the time comes, and anyway, if the delivery is not in place at that time, don't expect their money to be in place.
"In addition, this time we have changed the delivery and payment methods. Pay 4 into advance payment, when delivering, first deliver the quantity of the advance payment, and then produce a batch of delivery and settle a batch. "Ibrahim is not a fool.
Now the international community is worried that they will default on their debts, and they do not want to put too much money in China.
If it weren't for the fact that France and the Soviet Union both required them to settle their arrears before they could continue to negotiate anything else, and the rest of what they needed would have to be paid in cash, the fighters would not have been imported from China at all.
China's fighters, after all, are still a little worse.
"So?" Xie Kai was a little unhappy.
"Thanks, you can think about it, and if you can, please prepare a contract. "Now Ibrahim is anti-guest.
120 Super -7A, plus the same number of spare engines, the entire contract will be at least 1.4 billion US dollars, plus the previous orders for the flying shield system and other messy weapons and equipment, more than 200 million, enough for him to have an advantage again.
Xie Kai was helpless, so he could only say that he had to think about it first.
"Minister, is this too much? We only got the engine, it's useless? And China imported the engine from the Soviet Union......" Harry Moisan asked Ibrahim worriedly.
120 training aircraft, what do you want so many for?
"These fighters are at least much more advanced than the J-7 we purchased from China before, and their bomb load and maneuverability have been greatly improved. Ibrahim explained.
"If necessary, these trainers can be used as fighter jets?" understood Harry Mosan.
Many of the fighters of the Iraqi Air Force are old and backward.
China's light fighter positioned as a training aircraft has a lot of improvement in performance and combat capability compared with their domestic backward fighters. Although the combat radius cannot be compared with the French F.1QE, at least it is much better than the others.
"We can also buy engines from the Soviet Union!"
"The Soviets were not willing to provide production technology. "Ibrahim can't help it.
The Soviets were willing to provide technology, so why not go to China to bring in their fighters whose actual performance and theoretical performance did not know how much the gap was?
China is willing to provide technology.
In this way, the Assad-25 plant does not have to just engage in AWACS aircraft and transform air tankers.
"Another advantage is that even if the Chinese are not willing to provide the Super -7B, we can change the single-engine Super -7A to the double-engine Super -7B ourselves." It should be clear to everyone that the aerodynamic layout of the Chinese Super-7B with single-engine model only has an increase in the tail wing, and there is no need to even change the layout of the front. Ibrahim went on to explain.
Dare to place such a big order, if there is no reasonable plan, you will be killed by the president when you go back.
More than a billion dollars, for Iraq in the past, it was just a matter of digging a few more barrels of oil, but now it can't.
The country is short of money, and every penny must be spent on a basis that can improve their national defense strength.
After listening to the minister's introduction, everyone else was deeply impressed.
Without changing the aerodynamic layout, and without even adding much electronics, the Iraqi technicians can easily do it.
No one has an opinion on such a purchase.
"120 Super-7As, plus 120 spare engines? What do they think? With so many spare engines?" Wang Guilin thought he had misheard. "Where do we supply them with so many engines?"
"I'm worried about that, too. Xie Kai was very embarrassed, "I was worried that these two hundred engines would smash some of our hands, after all, the Air Force does not need fighters with this positioning." ”
The research and development of the super-7 project was originally based on export sales.
The international market is what they are staring at.
Originally, I was worried that I wouldn't be able to sell it, but now it's good, and the engine is not enough.
"We grabbed orders from the Soviets, and it's strange that they can continue to supply us with engines. Xiong Hongyuan was a little envious in his heart.
Why is it that every time a fighter is developed on the 404 side, there can be a large number of orders.
It's as if people are in a hurry to send money.
Factory 132 is a professional fighter manufacturer!
They developed and produced fighters, but they couldn't sell much, how could they not be so envious?
At this time, 200 Super 7A units were sold.
The investment in the entire project can be recovered, so in the past, Xie Kai and they did not continue to dig up the talents of the 132 factory and the 611 factory.
"So, we've got to figure it out. What the Iraqis want is not the Super 7A, they want the Super 7B with more bomb load, larger combat radius and better flight performance. Shekai explained why the Iraqis were ordering so many spare engines.
Even if China does not provide the technology, with the brains of the Iraqis that are so big that there is no sky, Xie Kai believes that they have obtained the production technology of the Super -7A, and without the technology of the Super -7B, they can make a fighter like the Super 7B.
In terms of missiles, everyone can create three bombs and two bombs, and the technical research and development feat of doubling the range, the fighter just adds an engine, a single engine becomes a double engine, and the aerodynamic layout is not changed very much, and it can even be obtained without a wind blowing tunnel, how can it not be done?
"Can it work?" Wang Guilin's eyes widened, and Xiong Hongyuan's face was full of incredulity.
Huo Haiyuan, who was on the side, nodded, "As long as you don't change other power systems and don't change the aerodynamic layout, the avionics system and radar system are all universal." Even the attachment points of the weapons are the same......"
"Then we'll get ......," Wang Guilin was puzzled.
I just want to know why it's so easy why the Super -7B hasn't made its first flight until now.
It's just an extra engine.
"Director Wang, we are considering the Super -7B for our own use, and we did not consider exporting it originally. Huo Haiyuan's simple sentence made people understand why the progress of the super-7B was so slow.
Xie Kai mentioned this before.
"In other words, the Super 7B we exported is not the twin-engine fighter we really developed?" Wang Guilin was even more puzzled.
I don't see any other projects.
The prototype of the Super-7B, however, was given to the Iraqis to see.
"Yes. Originally, it was planned to equip the Super 7B with more advanced avionics systems, and even waited for the miniaturization of active phased array radars to complete the equipment. There is no need for export models, and the difficulty has been reduced a lot. As the chief engineer, Huo Haiyuan is naturally clear.
"The question now is, how do we address the engine gap. Xie Kai saw that he was getting farther and farther away, so he quickly pulled the topic back.
If the Super-7B is compared with the American F-15, it is much worse.
This is not a fourth-generation fighter of the Soviet Union and a third-generation fighter of Europe and the United States in the full sense of the word.
Compared with the two-and-a-half-generation fighters of the former Thunder, the performance has improved a lot, at least, against the MiG-29, it will not fall behind.
"How are you going to solve it? Or are you going to import it from the Soviet Union?" Wang Guilin threw the problem to Xie Kai.
Now talk to the Soviet Union, it is estimated that it is hanging.
The USSR and the Iraqis were definitely talking about the introduction of the MiG-29.
China even wanted to import Sukhoi's Su-27 from the USSR.
"Export turbofan-6. "Xie Kai was reluctant to continue to import RD-33 engines from the Soviet Union.
Even the Thunder is an improved RD-93 from the RD-33, and the performance has improved a lot.
He hopes to take advantage of such an opportunity to find a way out for the turbofan-6 and a chance for the domestic engine to continue.
"It's not that the test hasn't been completed yet?" it's not even installed on the fighter...... Huo Haiyuan is a little big, "The performance of the turbofan-6G is very good, but it has not been used in the fighter for a lot of experiments, and the actual real performance cannot be determined." ”
It's not a full-fledged engine, and it will smash its own signature.
"Isn't the next step to use this right away?" Xie Kai said, "and immediately start producing the Super 7B for flight tests, and at the same time produce two or more aircraft, one with RD-33 and one with turbofan-6." In a short period of time, we will not be able to complete all the deliveries, right? When the time comes, the turbofan-6 equipped will be directly regarded as an upgraded model. ”
This is very common in the international arms market.
The only thing that is not common is that in the international market, it is often buyers who seek to upgrade the model, and the sellers will reluctantly agree to various conditions.
Now it's reversed, and the Chinese side has taken the initiative to provide an upgraded model.
The performance of the turbofan-6 is not outstanding, and even the technology is not very mature.
There are not many people in the world who can develop turbofan engines.
The whole world knows about the heart disease problem of China's aviation industry.
In order to solve the heart disease of the aviation industry, a huge amount of foreign capital was spent to import civilian bass engines from the United Kingdom, and in the end, it has not been able to achieve domestic production.
The British only sell technology, but not experience.
Otherwise, the J-7 began to be developed in 73 years, and it has not been able to achieve its first flight until now, all because of the lack of engines.
The turbofan-6 could have been, but once the J-7 used the turbofan-6, the bass engine that was eventually imported with huge foreign capital would have been wasted.
Therefore, the only option that can be selected now is the turbofan-6.
"Will the Iraqis agree?" Wang Guilin was a little worried. "We have domestic engines and don't have any reputation. ”
Not to mention that foreign customers are not at ease, the Air Force itself will not be at ease.
The problem of heart disease has always plagued the development of equipment for the Air Force.
"Yes. Xie Kai affirmed, "Even if I don't agree, I will make them agree." I just want to give our domestic engines a chance. ”