"Is there the wreckage of the F-14 fighter? or is it complete?" Zheng Yucheng was interested.

404 has the idea of interfering in the field of fighter research, for so many years in China, there has been no advanced fighter, not to mention not a single heavy fighter.

The F-14 is one of the world's top fighters.

"Yes, some time ago, we shot down two Iranian F-14 Tomcat fighters on the border. "I believe this is very important for your country's aviation sector." So the Soviets offered to exchange this fighter with the missiles on it in exchange for some equipment, but we refused......"

"You should trade with the Soviets to get more benefits. Xie Kai said. "We are not a unit that specializes in warplanes. ”

"Xie Kai!" Zheng Yucheng whispered to Xie Kai, "This kind of fighter is the top in the world, as long as we can get it, we can completely build a heavy fighter." ”

If you can't use 404 yourself, you can use it for other units, right?

It doesn't cost much at all.

"Once we get the sample, we can copy it?" Xie Kai asked Zheng Yucheng in a low voice, "Whether it is the level of design or the level of manufacturing, we cannot reach the production of this kind of fighter." Especially when it comes to engines. ”

The F-14 fighter is really good enough.

During the honeymoon between China and the United States, there was also consideration of introducing this heavy fighter, but the Americans rejected it.

The full set of technology of the Soviet J-27 was given to China, and how many years did it take for the J-11 to be fully usable?

I got the Su-33 prototype from Ukraine, and how many years did it take to get the J-15 in China?

Xie Kai also wants to do it, but there are more and more projects in the base, and the funds required for each project are not a little.

If the problem of the engine is not solved, it is useless to design it.

What's more, too many advanced materials are needed?

"If you don't have the ability now, it doesn't mean that you won't have it in the future, if the price is not high, let's take it. Zheng Yucheng said, "When there is no money, we don't need to think about this project, we put it there as a technical reserve, and first carry out surveying and mapping imitation work." In particular, the radar system and avionics system above ......"

"The price is not high, it is ok. Xie Kai thought about it, it is really good to operate according to Zheng Yucheng's statement.

Regardless of whether it is American or Soviet, it is most appropriate to digest their technology and form China's own technology.

Otherwise, when China spends a huge amount of money to buy the full set of technology of the Su-27 export version from the Russians, it will not be able to manufacture all of them for another one or two decades, and it will be a waste of money.

"How much are you going to buy?" Xie Kai asked the Iraqi. "Although we don't need it, it can be used as a reference for the research and design of our new generation of fighters. ”

"We don't want money, we give it to you. Ibrahim smiled lightly when he saw that the other party had finally brought it up.

Xie Kai didn't believe that they would have such good intentions.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

He just stared at each other and didn't speak.

"Previously, we proposed that you be responsible for helping us develop an air-to-air missile for use with your country's Jian-7, and here, we provide samples of AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-54 Immortal Bird, all of which are provided to you for technical reference. We hope that you can provide us with more advanced air-to-air missiles......" Harry Moisan looked at Xie Kai and said with great sincerity.

Xie Kai didn't think their words were true.

The speed of these missiles provided to domestic units specializing in the development of air-to-air missiles is much faster and more reliable than that of units such as the 404, which have never been exposed to the research of this type of missile at all.

They couldn't have wanted to pull 404 in without any purpose.

"This kind of you are more suitable to find our domestic relevant units. Xie Kai said calmly, "We are not professional, and even our avant-garde anti-aircraft missiles were created by accident." ”

"We hope to work with you like we did with Pakistan on the tank program. Ibrahim finally stated their purpose.

Zheng Yucheng became happy, "Good cooperation, win-win, no one suffers." ”

He wished someone had invested in them.

Look at the Pakistanis, they directly gave a threshold fee of 50 million US dollars, and the Iraqis are far richer than Pakistan.

"What do you mean by cooperating? If the fighter project, whether it is with Shen Fei or Rong Fei, it is far better than cooperating with us, and we have no technical foundation at all in the fighter project. Xie Kai doesn't think it's a good thing.

Zheng Yucheng also frowned at this time, thinking about what the purpose of the Iraqis was.

Pie in the sky?

They were afraid of being smashed.

"We are ready to cooperate with Rong Fei, and the contact with them makes us feel bad. Much of the cooperation is not as easy as Pakistan and you......" Ibrahim does not hide in this regard.

At the beginning, they proposed to cooperate with Rongfei 132 Factory, hoping to help them complete the infrastructure of the domestic aircraft industry with the help of the scientific research capabilities of the Chinese.

China's scientific research capacity is very poor, but it has a complete system.

In the end, after negotiations, it was found that there were too many constraints, and the J-7 modified fighters provided to them by China were not willing to let them get involved in the field of technology development, and at the same time did not plan to share technology or anything.

Xie Kai looked at the other party and frowned.

The Iraqis have the idea of designing and producing their own fighters? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

Even if the Iraqis have technology, what is the use?

Once the Iraqis are sanctioned internationally and blockaded against them, it will be difficult for them to bring back Chinese-made fighter planes.

"So, we want to work with you, and then you work with Rongfei......" Ibrahim added. "This is also the decision we made after inquiring with the relevant departments in your country. Factory 132 does not have the right to self-funding, project autonomy like yours. ”

Feelings come for this?

All the explanations were very reasonable, but Xie Kai still didn't believe the other party's purpose.

After Saddam Hussein came to power and before the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq has not been planning to build its own military-industrial system.

Saddam's concept, that is, buy, buy, buy.

For a country like Iraq, the cost of basic investment is too high, and all supporting industries have to be invested and built without any foundation, which is too huge.

Doing it yourself is far less expensive than buying it from abroad.

Fighter jets, in particular, are investments in billions or even tens of billions of dollars.

They want to engage in rocket technology, and Xie Kai will believe that, after all, the Iraqis have experience and a foundation in this area.

The fact that the Scud missile, which can turn three bombs into two bombs and double the range, has not had much impact on the range of accuracy in addition to the fact that the weight of the warhead it carries has become very light, which shows that their foundation in this field is not bad.

"How do you want to cooperate?" Xie Kai asked.

"Transform the J-7's avionics system and radar system to form better combat performance, and at the same time, give us the ability to improve the avionics system and radar system of our domestic fighters, and upgrade our fighters......" Ibrahim's face was full of seriousness.

Iraq's domestic armament is Soviet-style.

Armored vehicles, tanks came from the USSR, and fighters of various models were likewise from the USSR.

"We can't decide this matter, let's talk about our missile cooperation project first. Zheng Yucheng gave this answer after discussing it with Xie Kai.

If it were only what the Iraqis needed, Plant 132 would not have been incapacitated.

Even if Factory 132 does not have such a right, it is impossible for the higher-level competent unit to give up such cooperation.

Since the beginning of reform and opening up, the country's strategic focus has shifted, and the life of the domestic military industrial system has not been easy.

"It's a series of collaborations that can be put together for discussion. Harry Moissan, he doesn't understand why the Chinese would give up on the cooperation that followed.

If they don't bring in another unit, it will be difficult for them to achieve what they originally planned.

The purchase of a huge number of missiles is just the beginning.

The J-7 offered by China is cheap and equally poor in performance.

They want a J-8 with better performance, but the Chinese side is unwilling to provide it, and there is no way but to seek it.

The F-14 fire control system can search and track dozens of targets at the same time, and can strike at multiple targets at the same time.

Equipping the Chinese-made J-7 with such a fire control system, even if the performance is much worse, can also improve the overall performance of the fighter a lot.

"No, it's a completely different collaboration. Subsequent air-to-air missile development can be discussed together. Xie Kai's biggest concern is that the Iraqis are using this as a threat, "Regarding the price, if you pay cash, we can consider reducing the price by $5,000 per set." ”

Xie Kai first pulled back the topic of negotiation.

Follow-up cooperation, we will talk about it later, and finally let Zheng Yucheng ask Li Mingshan what their Iraqis are planning before considering.

"It's only five thousand dollars, you're really slamming the door!" Harry Mossan looked weird. "We're adding a thousand more purchase orders!"

"It's just because of 1,000 sets that we are considering reducing the price! If one set is less than 5,000 US dollars, the total price will be 5 million US dollars less!" Xie Kai told the Iraqis very seriously, 5 million US dollars, which is a very large amount.

"Yes, five million dollars, that's the biggest concession we can make!" Zheng Yucheng is now also starting to play a role.

He even regretted that he had thought about selling a set of 80,000 dollars to the other party.

With fifteen million dollars less all of a sudden, how loser does he have to be?

Zheng Yucheng talked to the other party, and Xie Kai stopped talking.

The Iraqis wanted to bind the negotiations with other cooperation, but Zheng Yucheng resolved the difference, saying that no agreement was reached, the contract was signed, and other projects were not discussed.

"If you're still not satisfied with the price, we can reduce it by another $200 each. "Zheng Yucheng is very painful.

"Zheng, you are the most picky Chinese we have ever met!" In the end, Ibrahim couldn't stand Zheng Yucheng.