Chapter 568: Negotiation, Entering the Pit (2-in-1, Asking for Subscription)
The three of them didn't know that not long after they entered the conference room, Ma Yun in the distance stood in place and watched for a long time.
"What are the three of them talking about so sneaky?" For some reason, an inexplicable feeling flashed in the old horse's heart.
As an important boss in the Chinese Internet, Lao Ma has always had full confidence in his sixth sense.
So Ali has always been able to save the day along the way with him at the helm.
Lao Ma had a trace of dissatisfaction in his heart, this was in Hangzhou, his territory, but someone was quietly discussing how to deal with him behind his back.
His mind has always been flexible, and the reason why he has been sure of this in such a short period of time is because among the three of them is Liu Qidong, the founder of JD.com.
Then Tencent has Paipai.com, and Youyou has invested in 360 Mall, and the three of them will get together, and the biggest junction point is e-commerce.
"Mr. Ma, the guests are waiting there. Just when the old horse was a little stunned, his assistant came over and whispered. He thought it was strange why the boss suddenly stopped leaving, stopped in the distance and watched, and there was no one around.
"Let's go. Lao Ma retracted his gaze and said indifferently, "Don't let the guests wait for a long time." ”
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In the small conference room, Liu Yun's voice continued to be heard.
"For a long time, the industry's criticism of Ali mainly came from too many fakes on Taobao. Of course, it is unlikely that a C2C-based website will want to avoid fakes.
You just know by looking at the name, Taobao, Taobao, as the name suggests, is to let you find good goods in a large number of cheap items. ”
Liu Qidong smiled and said, "This old horse, the ability to choose a name is a must, I have to admit it." Alibaba, Taobao, this brain is powerful enough. The name of my company, hey, was taken after myself and my ex-wife on a whim. In terms of concept, it is indeed a lot worse than him. ”
Liu Yun nodded and continued: "Not only that, in April this year, Ali just established a new sub-website on Taobao - Taobao Mall, you two should know." ”
Sure enough, after listening to the words "Taobao Mall", Brother Xiao Ma and Liu Qidong naturally glanced at each other, and a trace of worry flashed in their eyes.
"The reason why Ali established Taobao Mall must be understood by us. Although it cannot be said that it can completely eliminate fakes, it can largely solve the problems caused by today's fakes. ”
What this means, the two men certainly know by heart. There is no doubt that Ali will further expand their advantage in the e-commerce market through Taobao Mall.
"JD.com's advantage is its own stores, as well as its self-built logistics system. Liu Qidong emphasized his strengths. It was his biggest bargaining chip.
"It takes a lot of money. Liu Yun replied flatly, "By the time your logistics system is established, Ali's empire will be unbreakable." ”
Brother Xiao Ma deeply agreed with Liu Yun's words and said: "In the Internet, time is money. One thing must be admitted, both Tencent and Yoyo have an advantage in time. ”
Liu Yun was slightly stunned, glanced at Brother Xiaoma, and then nodded silently. He admits that Tencent and Yoyo have taken the lead in getting to where they are today.
He continued: "Although it is undeniable that QQ is an excellent chat software, it is also proud that it appeared in the wild period of the Internet, and it was the first to form a fixed social ecosystem. ”
"The same is true for Yoyo, we won hao123 at a good time, as well as the agency of Warcraft, which laid the foundation for the company's future take-off. A few years later, it's unlikely that an emerging Internet company will take over the rights to a popular game and skyrocket. So Mr. Ma is right, time is very important, and the later we are, the less time we will have. ”
Liu Qidong was a little moved after hearing this, and he understood that he was also racing against time. Ali's strength is already far stronger than himself, and if he doesn't hurry up and look for external funds, the gap between the two sides will only get bigger and bigger.
So he must find a partner, Liu Qidong has always been full of confidence in his plan, but he suffers from a lack of liquidity.
Youyou and Tencent, with their ample funds, are obviously the best partners to work with, as long as they don't ask for control of JD.com.
Liu Yun glanced at Brother Xiao Ma and said, "Mr. Liu, I have prepared 200 million US dollars, as well as a leisurely promotion channel." Mr. Ma, what about you?"
Brother Xiao Ma shook his brows slightly, and secretly said that he was so generous.
He was silent for a moment and said: "Tencent's liquidity is not much, 200 million yuan is the most cash I can come up with, and of course, the merger of Paipai.com into JD.com, and the future QQ recommendation." ”
Liu Qidong asked: "How many shares does Mr. Ma want to get?" ”
"Can't go any lower than Yoyo. ”
After Liu Yun heard this, he scolded secretly: Greedy enough.
This guy wants to rely on 200 million yuan, plus Paipai.com, and QQ's traffic channels, so he wants to get the same shares as himself. He's $200 million in real money.
This money was borrowed from the bank by selling iron.
"Mr. Ma, your requirements are a bit high. ”
"It's not high, QQ, as a monopoly social software, can bring unlimited invisible value to JD in the future. I believe that Mr. Liu also agrees with this. ”
After Liu Qidong listened, he nodded and did not speak.
"Mr. Liu, can my Weibo also attract traffic for Jingdong.com?"
"Of course, Weibo is also a very popular social software. ”
Brother Ma pouted silently, he didn't mention the Tencent Weibo in his hand, because its size was really not enough to see, and he still had this self-knowledge.
Liu Yun said again: "Mr. Ma, the opportunity for the three of us to meet together is rare, don't have infighting." It is reasonable to be reasonable, and Yoyo took out 200 million US dollars, which can never be consistent with Tencent's shares. I will never do such a loss-making financing. ”
"Mr. Liu, what do you suggest?"
"If you really don't have any money, you Tencent can continue to raise money. Since 2004, Tencent has not raised funds, which is really wasteful. There are too few Internet companies like you today. Look at Ali, he's getting ready for financing again. ”
Brother Xiao Ma lifted the frame of the mirror and said, "Mr. Liu, whether this financing is financing or not is our own business. What's more, now that we have plenty of cash, there is no need to dilute our shares. ”
After a slight pause, he raised his eyebrows and asked, "Why does Liu always dislike a lot of money and want to take a stake in Tencent." ”
Liu Yun said very seriously: "Of course, as long as Tencent wants to raise money, I will also buy shares if I sell iron." ”
"Don't think about it, we don't need financing. ”
Liu Yun smiled, and then changed his words and said: "Okay, you said that Tencent has sufficient capital flow, but this time it injected capital into JD.com, and it can only come up with 200 million yuan, and that's it." ”
"We have other businesses. ”
"Yoyo has it too. Mr. Ma, the conditional shares you gave cannot be the same as mine. If Brother Dong agrees to this condition, I will stand up and leave. It's a big deal for me to find Ali to cooperate!"
Liu Yun stood up and was about to walk out, muttering to himself: "I think Ali's Mr. Ma is not far outside." I'll look elsewhere. ”
Seeing this, Liu Qidong immediately stood up, stopped him, and said, "Mr. Liu, don't be impatient, everything is easy to discuss." ”
Brother Dong was a little anxious, he even felt that it was really possible to do this with Liu Yun's kid who said it.
He quietly checked Liu Yun's information on the Internet and analyzed his personality. After all, this is still a 23-year-old young man, and he can't be compared with a middle-aged man like himself who has experienced vicissitudes of life.
Liu Yun pretended to be puffing up and did it
"Why does a mature and steady man like me want to start a business, but the road is bumpy, and a young man like Liu Yun, who is irritable and likes to be high-spirited, can start a company and start a business all the way, God is partial to him and him. ”
This is a sigh in Liu Qiaodong's heart.
But no matter what he thought in his heart, the superficial work still had to be done in place.
After all, they have come to the point where the three of them sit together to talk about the conditions, and it would be a pity if all the previous efforts were wasted.
"Mr. Liu, about the matter of Jingdong, I have always been concerned about it. I know you're optimistic about Tencent, but you can't be too favoritistic. ”
Young people should be like this, saying whatever comes to mind, without being false and wrong.
This time, even Brother Xiao Ma and Brother Dong were secretly helpless in their hearts, this guy relied on his young age, he really said whatever he wanted, and he had no scruples at all.
"Mr. Ma, your conditions are actually very generous, and I can't ask for anything. Liu Qidong thought for a while and said.
Immediately afterwards, he turned to Liu Yun and said, "Mr. Liu, your conditions are so generous, I am not mentally prepared at all." $200 million is too much, so a discount of $100 million is enough. ”
This is where Dong Ge is sleek, and the two are not to be offended.
Liu Yun thought about it carefully. In another time and space, Zhang Lei of Gaoling Capital will bring 300 million US dollars to JD.com in 2009, which will solve the urgent need of this Dongge.
However, according to the news given by the media at the time, at the beginning, Liu Qidong only wanted 70 million US dollars, but Zhang Lei was impressed by Liu Qiaodong's eloquence and ability, and then resolutely took out 300 million US dollars.
But judging from Liu Yun's experience in the shopping mall in his life, this news is mostly watery.
This line of reporters, without exaggeration, how to attract the attention of readers.
And Liu Yun feels that this article is seriously suspicious of sycophancy.
not only praised Zhang Lei's far-reaching investment vision, but also praised Liu Qidong's personal charm. The reporter who wrote this article slapped two people on the back at once, which can be described as killing two birds with one stone.
The two of them are private, and there will definitely be a lot of unknown agreements.
$70 million and $300 million, the difference is too big. This is not something that can be settled by a few passionate speeches.
This Dong Ge is not the big fool Jia Yueting. The difference between the two is too far. To know Boss Jia's eloquence, even Lao Ma is willing to bow down.
That's right!
Lao Ma's reputation is higher, his eloquence is better, his ability is stronger, and the Ali behind him is larger, but he racked his brains in order to get more funds when he raised funds a few times.
Does Liu Qidong just need to sit quietly and then move his mouth, and others will come to the door with cash, and even generously give much more money than expected?
So, this one must be boring!
"Mr. Liu. Liu Yun said meaningfully, "Since we have cooperated, we are our own people." ”
This guy is just so direct?
But can he deny it? Of course not.
"Yes, since you cooperated, it must be your own people. ”
Liu Yun smiled and asked again: "Mr. Liu, to be honest, is this 100 million US dollars really enough? The plan you gave me is very huge." With nationwide logistics and warehouses, as well as a large number of couriers, you can see what a huge expense this is. ”
Liu Qidong smiled brightly: "You can take your time." ”
Liu Yun shook his head disappreciatively: "What did we say just now?Time is money, oh no, time is more precious than money." There is a strong enemy outside, and we really can't afford to procrastinate. ”
Speaking of this, he picked up the cup and took a sip of water, and continued: "In this way, I can reveal to you a little bit, the cooperation between Ali and SF Express will be further deepened, and it is even possible to jointly build a new logistics system, and then you Jingdong will have fewer advantages in your hands." ”
Liu Yun released another bombshell with half-truths and half-truths!
The reason why it is a half-truth is because it will come true sooner or later, but now it is still a shadowless thing.
Liu Yun shamelessly took out this thing that would happen in the future to scare the two of them.
Will they believe it? If someone else says it, they probably won't believe it. But it is the founder of Yoyo who speaks, and he is also their potential partner, so they can't help but believe it.
For example, Brother Dong at this moment belongs to the type of people who would rather believe that they have something and can't believe it.
As the head of JD.com, he needs to take into account all the potential pitfalls.
"I think $300 million in financing is needed. He muttered for a long time and spoke.
"Yoyo can come up with $200 million is the limit. Mr. Ma, what about you?"
"$100 million is too much to take out for the time being. Brother Pony said through some gritted teeth.
"If you don't want to get financing, you can borrow money from the bank. ”
"No loans!"
Liu Yun scolded secretly, why is this guy so hard-mouthed.
After being silent for a long time, Brother Xiao Ma spoke: "I...... , think of a way, give 60 million US dollars first, and give me half a year to raise the rest. ”
What he thought was that Tencent would have several new game masterpieces launched in the second half of the year, and with its own not low profit margin, the money should be enough by then.
"Mr. Ma is refreshing!" Liu Yun clapped his hands and said with a smile
No one noticed, and a meaningful smile appeared on the corner of his mouth.