"Not really. The navy also knows that even if we come up with it, we will not be able to equip it now. Qi Zhiyuan shook his head and said.

Now Xie Kai doesn't speak.

Zheng Yucheng said before that the cooperation between 701 and Hudong Shipyard was a bit of a stretch, and he didn't know why.

What Qi Zhiyuan said now is obviously related to the quarrel between the two sides.

"The 701 side does not want us to divide the technical personnel from them, and now the pre-research work of the aircraft carrier is in charge of the Admiralty, so there is no problem of funding; ”

Not only is there a shortage of 404 subordinates, but all research units in the country are lacking.

The projects that do not have must be supplemented and improved, and the projects that do have must continue to be developed to be more advanced, and the international technology is more advanced than China's, and in order to catch up, it is natural that we must lay a good foundation.

"Didn't the Admiralty agree to give us the full cooperation and give us enough experienced technicians? Xie Kai asked puzzled.

Didn't the Admiralty say full cooperation?

"They said that it can be cultivated, and the aircraft carrier project is not prepared to be carried out in a big way in the short term, and in the absence of funds and basic support, the 10,000-ton drive will not be directly carried out. These things are too expensive. Qi Zhiyuan shook his head.

Now the Hudong Shipyard has sold 6 053 frigates, and the economic conditions are much better, while expanding production capacity, while training technicians.

"So, what does the Navy mean by increasing the displacement of 053 to 4,000 tons?

Qi Zhiyuan shook his head.

The project was not meant by the Navy, but by the idea of the Argentine Navy.

"How much money can the Argentine Navy bear?" Zheng Yucheng asked, "how much money will be needed for the whole project?"

Zheng Yucheng is now smart, so he asks about funding first.

"For the time being, the intention of cooperation has not been determined. Qi Zhiyuan said, "Under the current circumstances, if the 701 side does not agree to cooperate, our cooperation with the Argentine Navy will lack a foundation." ”

"What does the Argentine Navy want? Aren't they going to want a production line?"

"Full naval warship design capabilities. Although our technology is backward, we have a complete system, and the whole of Argentina lacks a foundation because there is no perfect supporting facilities. ”

Qi Zhiyuan introduced what he had learned, so that Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng could better understand the situation of the entire project.

The cooperation between the Chinese Navy and the Argentine Navy began when the Argentine Navy became interested in the Chinese Exocet missile.

Last year, the Argentine Navy sent a delegation to visit China, and although the performance of the C-801 anti-ship missile developed by 801 seems to be worse than that of the French Exocet, it is much cheaper.

In the end, Qi Zhiyuan ran to fool the Argentine delegation to visit their 053H3 frigate model, so the Argentine Navy became interested in such a warship.

It's exactly a miniature version of the Kirov class.

Although the number of missiles and firepower cannot be compared with the Soviet Kirov-class nuclear-powered cruisers, as long as the construction technology is mastered, other missiles can be replaced.

The Argentine Navy's biggest problem is that it has not been able to acquire too advanced warship technology.

Brazil, because of its better relations with Europe and the United States, can receive far more support than the Argentine government.

"Another big reason is that Argentina is also very rich in domestic resources, and they hope to exchange resources for technology. ”

That's why Argentines want to work with China.

Now the global demand for various resources has been stable, and Argentina, because of a declining power like the United Kingdom, is fighting because of the grabbing of territory, and it is naturally impossible to get more investment and technology from European and American countries.

What's more, Argentine President Gar Brie is considered a dictator and has always been attacked by the West.

"Resources?" Xie Kai was also a little embarrassed when he saw Zheng Yucheng's dissatisfied gaze.

It is true that China's economy is developing rapidly, but the country is beginning to carry out macroeconomic regulation and control of the economy because of serious duplication of construction and some overheating in China.

Domestically produced resources are overcapacity, and importing resources from abroad also requires a lot of valuable foreign exchange.

Like some economically developed countries in the United States, it is powerless to mothball domestic resources, first import resources from abroad for use, and wait until the world's resources are almost consumed in the future.

Everything needs money.

When Zheng Yucheng and the others were talking about this, it was almost half past ten in the evening.

In the 701 conference room, which had already left work, it was smoky and the atmosphere was depressing.

"What are the difficulties in cooperating with that side? Technical cooperation is not a good thing for both sides?" Zheng Ming asked with a frown, looking at several senior executives of the 701 Institute in front of him.

The cooperation between 701 and Hudong Shipyard is of great benefit to the entire domestic naval equipment manufacturing industry.

"Director Zheng, they not only poach people, but also want to get our technology for free. Chief Engineer Pan Jingfu said dissatisfiedly, "Our personnel are not enough, they used the excuse of improving the design of 053H2 before, and they needed someone to help, and the people we borrowed, now they are not ready to change." The people of 404 have always been used to doing this. Whether it is in the field of the Air Force, or the aerospace system, or the army equipment system, they all use this means to poach people from various units......"

"Yes, Director Zheng, you have guaranteed this before, but what about the people now? Our project has been affected by the fact that they have borrowed a large number of experienced technicians...... "Zhu Yingfu, the director of the General Structure Research Office, also poured bitter water.

The behavior of 404 people is too speechless.

It has become a habit to poach people.

"Director Zheng, they poached the technicians of other shipyards, we have nothing to say. However, we are a research institute, and there is a serious shortage of experienced technicians. It's better for them to directly dig up the technical backbone and dig up the project leader!" Chao Zhiyun, director of 701, said with an ugly face, "This kind of cooperation is better than merging what we have into their unit." ”

The 701 Institute has been dug up by the Hudong Shipyard to the extent that it hurts the muscles and bones.

They know what Hudong Shipyard wants to do.

Isn't it just to build a big warship?

Isn't it just to surpass the status of the 701 Institute and fight for the aircraft carrier project?

If 701 had sufficient scientific research funding, it would not have ended up in the world it is today.

Zheng Ming faced these situations, and he really didn't know how to explain them.

The urine nature of 404 is known to the military industrial system throughout the country.

Other systems are guarding against 404, and many units even send people to keep an eye on 404's people in order not to be poached by 404. The Navy is completely luring the wolf into the house.

Originally, they did not plan to meddle in the naval equipment manufacturing industry, and the Naval Technical Equipment Department and the Logistics Department took the initiative to seek cooperation.

It's good now.

The design of the most core design of surface ships has been dug up to the extent that it hurts the muscles and bones.

"Their poaching people are mainly electronic technicians, any unit in China, there is a shortage of personnel in this area, and the 052 project is also the most lacking in this area...... Zhao Zhiyun continued to complain.

What else can Zheng Ming say now?

It can't be said that they will dig people, we will just cultivate more, anyway, everyone is a state unit, and technological breakthroughs are all national.

"I have already made an appointment with them Director Zheng Yucheng, and they will come over tomorrow, and everyone will sit together and communicate when they have any problems. Consistently adopting a non-cooperative attitude is not a good thing for the field as a whole. Zheng Ming only said this sentence in the end.

It's not that he doesn't want to persuade, it's that he really doesn't know how to persuade.

Early the next morning, Zheng Yucheng, Xie Kai, Qi Zhiyuan and other people drove from Shanghai to 701 with several persons in charge of Hudong Shipyard.

The contradictions between the two sides are not small.

I don't want other units to compete for funds for the whole project, but to compete for talents.

701 naturally will not treat the bad problems of 404 people, and at present, they directly refuse all kinds of technical cooperation.

Zheng Yucheng and Xie Kai really didn't know that things were like this, and they had been in the car all the time, so they heard Qi Zhiyuan introduce these things.

"Uncle Qi, we're a bit too much about this. Didn't you say before, don't poach people, try to cooperate to solve the problems we encounter?" Xie Kai couldn't imagine that Qi Zhiyuan could do this.

The current situation of the Hudong Shipyard is very good, but if it falls out with the entire unit in the field of naval equipment and technology, everyone will have no cooperation in the future, and the biggest loss will be the entire navy.

"There's no way around it. What was the situation of Hudong Shipyard when we took over, you all know...... "Qi Zhiyuan is also helpless," if you want to continuously improve 053H3 and improve performance, you must work harder on the electronic system. Just like our fighter program, there are now thousands of researchers in the field of electronics, and the navy needs it even more, and if all of them are graduates, it will be too late. ”

"If you dig people, you will dig people, what can they do? Anyway, they are all contributing to the cause of national defense. Zheng Yucheng didn't think there was anything too much in this matter.

Before, they were poaching people everywhere.

Because of the poaching of people from various units, there is the scale of today's 404.

"That's not the problem. The 052 project is a national key project, if the foundation is not made, what will the navy do if it needs large warships in the future? We can't compare with them in terms ......of design experience and technology accumulation," Xie Kai was really worried.

Type 052 missile destroyers, it was not until 052C that they began to become advanced.

The performance of the same type of missile destroyer in the world is really on par, and it needs to be 052D.

If the development of 052 is dragged down because of their poaching behavior, Xie Kai will be the sinner of the entire country.

Xie Kai knows better than anyone how rapid China's economy will develop in the future.

The results of economic development need favorable national defense support, otherwise, just like Japan and Germany, the Americans can slaughter their economy if they want to.