Xie Kai didn't believe it.

I wanted to ask, but I felt that it was the internal affairs of Factory 132, so I didn't continue in the end.

"They wanted to expand the production line. Zheng Yucheng is very clear about the idea of the 132 factory, "The J-7 has orders from the Air Force every year, and now although foreign trade is not particularly good, there are dozens of them every year." And we're building factories over there, and they know about it and want to tie us together. ”

"If that's the case, just say no? Where did Deputy Director Zhao go?" Xie Kai was curious.

Zheng Yucheng should know.

"I went to help the Egyptians build a factory. Wang Guilin said, "When I first walked from us, at that time, Factory 132 wanted to expand the production line, but we couldn't determine where our fighters were produced, and we didn't have the money in our hands......

"Are we going to give birth in Shenfei?" Xie Kai asked curiously.

Shen Fei has the production task of J-8 over there, and although the boy is not prosperous, at least he will not be hungry.

"There is a shortage of orders, Shen Fei has been looking for us, hoping to cooperate, we poached a lot of them at the beginning, and we couldn't favor one over the other......" Zheng Yucheng said with a wry smile.

There are many domestic units that can produce J-7 and J-8 fighters.

And the Air Force does not have many orders, and if you want to upgrade equipment and study new technologies, you can't do without orders.

"How many orders did Shen Fei give before?" Xie Kai asked, "Even if we don't poach people from Shen Fei, we must support them." ”

Although Xie Kai has never liked Shenfei as much as he likes 132 Factory, in any case, Shenfei is the aircraft design and manufacturing unit with the strongest technical strength in the domestic aviation system.

Su-27 and Su-30, that must be bought, Shen Fei still invested a lot of energy in these fighters.

If the Su-27 and Su-30 are given to Factory 132 and 611 to complete the localization, it will be more difficult than Shen Fei.

By now, it is necessary to support the development of the entire system in the country, otherwise, there will be no supporting facilities at that time.

"For the order of 80 aircraft, 20 aircraft were given for the manufacture of spare parts. Zheng Yucheng said.

Xie Kai shook his head when he heard this, "It's too little, this time the order for a hundred planes on the American side, if it is implemented, give them half." Anyway, we don't have our own assembly and production plants. ”

"The quality of their production is not easy to control!" Wang Guilin explained the reason. "There are not many J-8s shipped, and the Americans found that the parts of the two fighters are not interchangeable, and the tolerances are very large, and almost the parts of each fighter cannot be used on other fighters. ”

The standardization of production in China has only started in the past few years.

"Didn't the seven-specialized technical agreement start to be promoted nationwide?" Xie Kai said suspiciously.

The seven-specialized technical agreement began to be promoted from the aerospace system in the late seventies, when it was still the 7905 technical agreement, which was promulgated in 79, mainly for aerospace electronic components.

By the 84s, in the 84s, a new 8406 technical protocol was formed.

The 8406 technical agreement is required to be promoted in the field of military industry across the country, and there are not too many enterprises that implement it.

Xie Kai has required 404 to be implemented in accordance with the seven technical agreements required by the 8406 technical agreement, especially since a large number of outsourcing parts are produced by different supporting units, and this technical standard has become more important.

Therefore, now the 404 side has been handy for the use of the seven-specialty technical agreement, and even the supporting factories, as long as they do not come in accordance with the seven-specialty technical agreement, will lose their supporting qualifications.

National defense orders have decreased, 404 annual production orders are a lot more than the production tasks obtained by supporting enterprises from their superiors, even if they are unwilling, they have to be implemented, as long as the products that do not meet the requirements of the drawings are all scrapped and returned, not only will not settle the processing costs, but will even deduct the material costs from the processing costs.

In this way, as long as the military industrial enterprises that have business dealings with 404 are forced to come in accordance with the requirements of the seven-specialty technical agreement.

It stands to reason that Shen Fei's 112 factory should have been promoted a long time ago.

"Their efforts to implement the seven-specialty technical agreement were not very strong before, and it was not until they learned what standardization is in the United States that they began to pay attention to it, and now they have only just begun ......to promote it," Wang Guilin said worriedly.

In order to make logistics easier for 404, it is required that all parts of the same type of series of products must be interchangeable.

In other words, the tolerances required by the drawings are absolutely not allowed to have any deviations.

If it is out of tolerance, it will be scrapped.

"Previously, they helped produce a batch of Y-10 parts, and the scrap rate reached 60%, and the processing fee was not enough to deduct the cost of materials, and they have been pestering about this all the time. Zheng Yucheng was also helpless.

He also wanted to give Shen Fei an extra part.

But Shen Fei didn't follow the rules, which was very fatal.

If the interchangeability of parts cannot be guaranteed, and the parts need to be replaced when there is a problem, and they cannot be installed, they will have to be reprocessed according to the size in China, which will have a very adverse impact on the export.

"What about Factory 132?" Xie Kai remembered that the J-7 was not effectively solved until the eighties because of the production quality problems.

So far, not a single one of the Super-7A has been delivered, and there will be problems only after delivery.

"We have been implementing the seven-special agreement for a long time, and our base has trained hundreds of experienced personnel as quality supervisors in order to arrange idle personnel, and the control is still relatively strict. Wang Guilin introduced.

For Wang Guilin, they are more inclined to cooperate with 132 factory.

Although Factory 132 was originally the backup unit of Shenfei Factory 112, it has done a lot of work in recent years.

Coupled with the cooperation between the two sides in design and prototype production, the 404 management is more inclined to cooperate with the 132 factory.

"Shen Fei's side, if it can meet our quality requirements, it is better to give more. Factory 112 and Factory 132 are the best aviation design and manufacturing units in our country, and we can't promote the development of the entire industry, but we have to let these two companies meet our support. Xie Kai thought about it and felt that he couldn't just give all the funds to Factory 132.

Although the J-10 and J-20, the two future main fighters completely independently developed in China, were both developed by Factory 132, Shenfei is an absolutely indispensable and important unit in China's national defense industry.

Without Shen Fei, the localization of the Su-27 and Su-30 could not be completed.

Without Shen Fei, the J-11, J-15, and J-16 twin-engine heavy fighters would not appear in China's national defense sequence.

As for the nondescript stealth fighter of the J-31, Xie Kai really doesn't want to see it.

If there is no J-20, that may be a helpless choice.

Xie Kai was unhappy with Shen Fei, and it was because of the appearance of fighters like J-31.

Now we can't favor one over the other because of personal preferences, those who get rich first should drive those who get rich later, and everyone will get rich together and become well-off, and contribute to the cause of national defense, right?

To what extent the Super-7B can eventually develop, Xie Kai does not know.

Whether the stealth fighter can appear in advance, Xie Kai also has no bottom in his heart.

You can't just make some achievements now, and you want to develop everything yourself, how long will it take?

If you can avoid detours, there is naturally no need to waste time and energy.

When Xie Kai and his party discussed, Xiong Hongyuan and others also got together, but they were just accepting Long Yaohua's criticism.

“...... If you want to expand the production line, you can directly discuss with them, and you have to do things like this, no matter what the purpose is, it will affect the entire national defense cause! Just keep an eye on the domestic point, learn from other people's 404, and find orders in the international arena, not only to solve the problem of its own development funds, but also to bring a large amount of foreign exchange to the country...... "It's not that Long Yaohua wants to get angry."

It's that what Factory 132 is doing is too detrimental to unity.

Xiong Hongyuan lowered his head and didn't dare to speak.

The same is true for the other 132 mills.

"Chief, it's not that we only focus on our own interests, we have to upgrade the technical system, we have to improve our technical strength, and we have to support the development of the enterprise...... Li Wenzheng did not have that kind of embarrassment, "Chief, or give us project autonomy, we will raise our own ......funds."

"To give you project autonomy? You have introduced a lot of technology and changed a lot of models for the J-7, how much have you sold so far? Haven't you been running to the Air Force all day long to ask for orders?" Li Mingshan asked Li Wenzheng sharply.

Originally, he wasn't going to say anything.

"Chief, Project 10 now needs a lot of funds, even with the super-7 verification technology, the prototype of Project 10 must start production......" Zhao Bin saw that the leader was angry, and continued, none of them dared to say anything.

In the final analysis, isn't it all about getting Project 10 from drawings to real things in advance?

If there had been crazy money like the 404, they would have already started producing prototypes to prove the technology.

"The technical demonstration work of Project 10 has been completed?" Long Yaohua was stunned.

It was an unexpected surprise.

"It has always been a demonstration and design, and there is a super-7 engineering verification technology, which is very fast. Mr. Song, who is in charge of the No. 10 project, nodded and said, "At present, whether it is an avionics system or a radar system, there are basically solutions, and more funds are needed to enter the trial production stage." ”

"What about the engine?" Long Yaohua just knew that even the Super -7 was facing engine problems.

The performance index of the No. 10 project is much higher than that of the super-7A, and when the project was launched in 84, it was clearly required to have the overall design thinking and aerodynamic layout of the world's third-generation fighter development trend.

The use of high-thrust turbofan engines is a must.

There are just no high-thrust turbofan engines in the country.

"First use the turbofan-6G, so far we have obtained the test data, the maximum afterburner thrust of the turbofan-6G at the Dongfeng Power Plant has reached 138.3 kN, and the intermediate thrust has exceeded 101 kN. Although the thrust-to-weight ratio is only 0.785, the maximum take-off weight of a single-engine fighter can reach about 17 tons......" Mr. Song introduced.

Project No. 10 was originally based on the technical pre-research of the J-9 and other domestic projects.

And the turbofan-6 was originally for the J-9.

"17 tons, isn't this similar to the technical indicators of the Super -7B?" Long Yaohua felt that his head was too big.

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