"Neither the Americans nor the Soviets are a good thing for us. Xie Kai said with a serious expression.

Zheng Yucheng and others all nodded with serious faces and agreed with him, it is true, the Soviet Union provided funds behind the scenes, and the missiles finally fell into the hands of Vietnam, which had not yet ended its civil war; the Americans provided funds behind the scenes, even in Wanwan across the bay, and finally the missiles fell into the hands of Wanwan.

No matter who it falls into, the destination of the missiles is Chinese territory.

Absolutely not sold.

"If the Persians or Iraqis transfer some of the missiles in their hands, we won't be able to stop it!" Zheng Yucheng was frightened by Xie Kai's thoughts.

The possibilities are too great.

"That's not it, after all, when we signed the missile sales agreement, there was a clause that clearly stipulated, and the logistics support had to be watched by our people, right?" Xie Kai was not worried about selling to Iraq and Persia.

Persia may sell some weapons that are not easy to use in the future, such as Iran once purchased the J-7, and even after the end of the Iran-Iraq war, even if there was no opportunity to import fighters from abroad, it still sold dozens of J-7s purchased from China to Donsonia and Sudan.

Iran has never sold the M7 surface-to-surface tactical missile, which was imported from China and improved from the Hongqi-2 anti-aircraft missile, that is, the result of Project 8610.

Of course, Iraq did not purchase such missiles at one time, and most of their missiles were Soviet-type.

"So, these two hundred missiles really can't be sold. Wang Guilin was also a little disappointed, "Hundreds of millions of dollars is not a small amount. ”

"It's not that you can't sell, but you have to figure out who the buyer is behind it. Enemies, naturally, can not be sold. Xie Kai shook his head and said.

There are too many suspicious aspects of Tanzania's procurement this time, as for how to find out that North Korea is behind them, and North Korea is helping Cuba to procure, and Cuba can pay this amount by selling cigars?

"When I got to Cuba, I couldn't get in touch, and the people in their government didn't say anything. ”

"Then don't sell it!" Xie Kai said firmly, "However, we can contact the Cuban side, where the nickel ore resources are abundant, which is a good thing for our country." ”

"What are you going to do with that thing, we don't have any shortage of minerals in our country. Zheng Yucheng was puzzled, "There is an overcapacity of all kinds of mineral mining in China. ”

"yes, oil or something, we can still ask for it. Wang Guilin also nodded, "Besides, there is no smelting unit in our base, and the minerals do not make money, so if we want to engage in it, we will also invest in mines." ”

For the eyes of these big guys, Xie Kai didn't want to comment too much.

Textbooks all say that China has a vast land and abundant resources, and its reserves of various minerals are among the top in the world.

Zheng Yucheng and others could not have imagined that in another 20 years, China would become the world's largest importer of ore.

It's not that China's products are not rich enough, it's not that China's ore reserves are not rich enough, it's that China's consumption is too terrifying.

With the world's largest population, and even surpassing the United States to become the world's largest economy in the next 30 years, the huge GDP data and the various resources that need to be consumed are massive.

Whether it is the Pacific Ocean or the Indian Ocean, there are cargo ships carrying various minerals to China.

"There's something that's too much trouble for us to come. Xie Kai, it's better to be pragmatic. The domestic production of oil is not high, and the quality of crude oil is not as good as that of imports, so we can ask for ores and other things, such as nickel ore and tungsten ore, which used to be exchanged for foreign exchange in our country, and now the export volume is not small. Bai Yanjun and Qi Zhiyuan didn't know when they came in, they didn't speak, and Li Nian was even more silent, and in the end, Bai Yanjun still spoke.

Minerals, how much China wants.

Yes, just excavate directly.

"No, at present, it seems that there is really no shortage in China, because our stainless steel production is very low, and because the production cost of our nickel-based superalloys is too high...... If our economy grows to the same level as the United States, how many mineral resources will we need in the country?" Xie Kai asked.

"That's a matter for the national mining department, and it has nothing to do with the base. Zheng Yucheng said disdainfully, "It's troublesome enough to exchange oil for equipment, and this time the Persians want to do so, even Iraq, although it is said that it is the full amount, but it also wants to exchange it for oil." ”

It is more feasible to exchange oil for equipment.

At present, in the past two years, the national economy has been somewhat overheated, and the overheated economy has been macro-regulated again, especially the blind comparison of local governments, for the sake of GDP, serious duplication of construction, and under the rapid growth of market demand, the state's macro-control has not been able to play much role.

Therefore, in the short term, there will be no shortage of domestic supply.

Even, the ore imported from abroad plus the cost will be more expensive than the domestic one.

"We need to think about long-term development. Especially in the field of civilian products. Moreover, we need to transform the scientific research achievements of the base into products, recover scientific research funds, and realize the recycling of scientific research funds. Xie Kai didn't just say whatever he wanted.

It's that there was a plan beforehand.

Ore, which will be a strategic resource for the future economic development of the country.

The Americans have always mothballed various mineral resources in their country and only mined a small amount, and the same is true in Europe and the United States, which retain their own mineral reserves......

Even the little devils have been desperately buying all kinds of minerals, and even investing in various mines overseas, and every year they will reserve a batch of various ores in China.

Because they don't have much reserves at home.

Only China, for the sake of economic development, especially for the sake of GDP by local governments, does not consider whether there are minerals available for future generations.

Rare earths are the most obvious example.

China's rare earths, at their richest, accounted for 71.1% of the world's total reserves, and after decades of selling cabbage prices, in the end, the total reserves are only 23%!

The decline in reserves is not due to the increase in reserves discovered in other countries around the world, but the fact that the world's rare earths have been supplied by China alone for decades.

Whether it is missiles, aircraft, or computers, etc., they are inseparable from rare earth elements.

This is something that the Chinese people do not see now.

China's electronics industry is underdeveloped, and the electronic technology is not advanced enough, and by the time it is discovered, it is too late, and it needs to import rare earths from abroad at a high cost......

Not to mention hundreds of millions of tonnes of iron ore imported every year.

"Ordinary iron ore or something, we can cooperate with the units of the domestic mining department, anyway, we want money, they want mines, non-ferrous metals are expensive, high profits, we will pinch it in our hands." Even, it is possible to acquire a steel company to specialize in the development and production of various alloy ......" Xie Kai's plan has always been an opportunity to sell to the base management committee step by step. "Over the years, China has been engaged in infrastructure construction, and the technical threshold of ordinary steel plants is lower, as long as there is money, you can do it, so the competition is also fierce. However, high-end special steel, not only has a large capital demand, but also a high technical threshold, and local governments will not engage in these. Even if they have a mine, at most it's just a mining plant or something......"

Special steel, in China, is very expensive and very profitable.

Up to now, even military special aviation aluminum, superalloys, etc., are imported.

If it is said that in terms of material research, Xie Kai is a complete layman, who has been engaged in front-line technical workers for decades, and he knows too much about the various formulations and performance characteristics of materials.

This is a skill that every basic technician must master.

Knowing the properties of materials in order to process better, knowing what methods to process, and understanding where materials are used, are also basic skills that top skilled workers need to master.

Processing technology, which encompasses these things.

Front-line skilled workers, the process of upgrading from worker to technician level, need to master these.

"The investment is too big. Wang Guilin shook his head, "Special steel, etc., takes too long and costs too high." ”

"If we don't invest, even if we need it, will we import it? Not to mention anything else, our current focus is on the development of fighter planes and engines and sturdy missiles...... Under the current circumstances, can the quality of tungsten carbide aluminum 7075 with the best strength be compared with that produced in China compared with that of foreign countries? Or, does the superalloy used in the engine not need to be imported?"

It's not that Xie Kai wants to engage in materials, but for the entire industrial field, materials are the foundation.

Many things in China are designed and cannot be manufactured, not because the manufacturing technology cannot be reached.

There is no precision manufacturing equipment in China, but there are the world's top super skilled workers - ninth-level fitters. At best, the production efficiency is low, and the cost is high.

The biggest constraint is still the material.

The production of materials, the use of materials.

The introduction of a full set of technology for bass engines has not been completed, and the biggest key point is in the material, although there are also problems in manufacturing accuracy and equipment accuracy.

If you don't understand the characteristics of the material, you can't produce it yourself, and if you don't have the corresponding processing tools, the production quality can't be guaranteed.

"Xie Kai, can we not play so big?" Wang Guilin knew that what Xie Kai said was the truth, "But at present, the stalls in our base are too big. ”

"Yes, it's not a good thing to spread the stall wide. Zheng Yucheng also had a headache.

Materials limit technological development, everyone knows.

The country has no choice but to study it slowly.

Even if we have copied the engine needed for the Super Seven Project, and we have not manufactured the most critical superalloy for the engine, can we rely on imports to avoid being stuck? Titanium alloy, which is still imported in China? There is no guarantee in the military field, let alone the market in the civilian field. Xie Kai questioned everyone, "With so much money in our base, are we really waiting to put it in the bank with interest?

The use of base funds has always been a problem.

Although it has cooperation with China CITIC Bank, and the base also has a lot of shares, it is better to use the interest for investment.