541 Yun-10 plus Fercom Radar: China's Road to Early Warning Aircraft
"Under the current circumstances, we do not have the funds to launch communication satellites in our country, but we cannot do without national defense. The satellites of the Americans and the Soviets have covered the whole world, and we do not have even the most basic ones. Zheng Yucheng handed a cigarette to Xie Kai, and Xie Kai, who was upset, shook his head and refused.
The old guy lit it, took a deep breath, and then exhaled a large mouthful of smoke.
"That aircraft is used to make an early warning aircraft, to create the kind of three-dimensional combat mode you built for the garrison regiment before, the early warning aircraft is not only responsible for communication command, but also responsible for long-range search and other ......," Zheng Yucheng said, "To a large extent, this is something used to replace satellites." ”
"We're on AWACS, but we don't have any technology. Xie Kai was a little speechless.
Originally, it had nothing to do with him, Zheng Yucheng said this, as if the plane was produced because of him.
However, the Air Force really needs AWACS aircraft, and Xie Kai does not want to wait for the 21st century to be independently developed in China.
Until the end of the 90s, negotiations with Israel for several years on the purchase of early warning aircraft radar finally came to an end because of pressure from the United States.
And the early warning aircraft is absolutely needed for the national defense of any country.
But now 404 simply can't afford this funding.
"The original Air Police No. 1, do you know?" Zheng Yucheng asked Xie Kai.
Xie Kai was at a loss.
"926 aircraft. ”
Xie Kai still shook his head.
All he knows is China's Air Police-200, which is a tactical early warning aircraft built by the Y-9 as a platform; he knows that the Air Police-2000, which is a large early warning aircraft modified from the Il-76; and he also knows that the Air Police-500, which is also a third-generation early warning aircraft with the Y-9 as a platform and equipped with a digital phased array radar.
I've never heard of Air Police No. 1.
"At the beginning of 69, the Tu-4 bomber was used as the carrier aircraft, and the modifications such as the shape design were completed, and the test flight was successful in 71 years, and finally because the 843 radar was suitable for targets at high altitudes, water surfaces, and deserts, but it was affected by clutter when detecting targets at low altitude and at sea, and the effect was very unsatisfactory, and it was dismounted in 79 years. Zheng Yucheng gave Xie Kai a brief introduction to the project of Air Police No. 1.
"So, another dismount project?" Xie Kai was a little sore.
If 404 had sufficient funding, he wouldn't mind picking up all the projects that had been dismounted.
But they didn't.
Only the most urgently needed projects can be put into it.
Zheng Yucheng nodded, "Now our funds can bear it, and it won't be of much use to keep the money there." We put into service only the first one, and the next one was borne by the Air Force. Otherwise, I wouldn't have agreed, we still have to build aircraft carriers!"
"It's good that you know. Now we have a lot of projects in our hands. On the Super Seven side, without the investment of the Pakistan Air Force, our engine of more than 200 million US dollars will have to be smashed in our hands. That's why I hope that Super Seven can fly as soon as possible, and I'll find a way to sell it when the time comes......" Xie Kai sighed.
If you don't continue to do it, many things will have to wait for decades.
"Don't worry, we have all evaluated, the Air Force's early warning aircraft, we will pay 80 million, and then we will not care, and when the research is successful, the Air Force will purchase it from us. ”
"Don't count on them, they are poorer than anyone else. Xie Kai looked disdainful.
It's not that he looks down on the Air Force, it's that the Air Force is really poor.
The country's annual military expenditure is not much, and the largest military expenditure is allocated to the largest army, giving priority to the development of the army, and the remaining little is allocated to the navy and air force.
There is so much in the pot, there are too many bowls to eat, rather than everyone starving and hanging for their lives, it is better to let most of them starve first, ensure that they do not die, let one or two excellent ones get fat, and then help raise the others.
At present, this is the attitude in China.
"The wars that have taken place in recent years, almost all of them, have been fought for air supremacy in the early stage. Under such circumstances, our Air Force ...... "Zheng Yucheng is not helping the Air Force to speak, and this is the case."
Xie Kai can be understood.
"We can't afford to raise the Air Force. ”
"But we can help the Air Force develop these cutting-edge technologies when they don't have the funding, at least for now. I can't remember anything about the navy. Even if you get an aircraft carrier back from the Soviet Union, we have to digest it, without ten or eight years of hard work, do you think it will work?" Zheng Yucheng was very helpless.
404 originally lacked projects, but when they got rich, they found that projects were everywhere, but these projects couldn't bring them money as they thought.
Taking over these projects that were disarmed by the top management makes them have less and less money in their coffers.
"Not to mention anything else, even the 531 class has not been completely done yet, especially the Haihongqi system, which is the main weapon. Zheng Yucheng complained, "Those black fish used for deterrence, haven't they been completely dealt with until now? And the capital needs are extremely huge." ”
"That's why I never wanted the base to meddle in the problems of the naval project. Xie Kai had a big head when he thought of these things.
Born again, he knows what people at home want.
Advanced fighters with a range that can deliver strategic missiles to the world, gray engines that can even fly around the earth, Blackfish that can dive 10,000 meters to the bottom of the sea, and aircraft carriers that can cover the entire Pacific Ocean......
And then the eggs.
None of these things are simple.
All of them involve the huge industrial system of the whole country, and the level of the industrial system is relatively high.
At every turn, it is billions or tens of billions of investments.
Take aircraft carriers as an example, an aircraft carrier now costs tens of billions, and 404 can no longer support it. If you grit your teeth and get it out, it's not too much of a problem, but you still have to have carrier-based aircraft, right? You have an aircraft carrier, why do you have to build an escort formation? There are also a series of things such as transport ships used to transport supplies.
Advanced aircraft carriers, is it possible to use the 051 ship, which is currently carrying the big flag, as the main escort ship?
The voyage is only 2,970 nautical miles, or at a speed of 18 knots, even its own territorial waters cannot run from the north to the south before it will anchor......
"The AWACS thing has been done for a long time. Originally, it was considered to introduce the Soviet A-50 and then carry the Israeli Fercon radar. The Soviets simply refused, and Israel did not say anything to death, but it was not very interested. Zheng Yucheng went on to explain why the country wants to build AWACS.
"Lao Maozi's thing has just been equipped for a long time, how can it be sold!" Xie Kai was even more speechless.
What do the domestic bigwigs think.
I actually thought about buying an A-50 AWACS aircraft, that thing was not backward in the eighties, and in the nineties, it would not be able to keep up with the rhythm.
Israel's Fercon is a good thing, the question is, they want to sell, can their American dad agree?
"So, after you have luck, the military is starting to think about it. Originally, the performance defects of the Yun-10 were serious, so the military was not interested in the end and couldn't get the radar out, and the plane that didn't carry it in the end wasn't it?" Zheng Yucheng had a smile on his face, "The Yun-10 is a carrier aircraft, and they are ...... radar."
"We're just going to provide the planes anyway, right?"
"No, we are responsible for the technology, and the production will be handed over to our joint venture with Qin Fei in the future. It's too much trouble to build a production plant. Zheng Yucheng said, "Qin Fei and they are also involved in this project now. ”
"So, they put in one? But now they want 80 million, what is this for?"
"Wide-body aircraft, improved models of the Y-10, wind tunnel models, ground static pressure tests, etc., as well as prototypes for production test flights. It all takes a lot of money. ”
"Isn't that part of upgrading the production line?"
"Yes. Qin Fei contributed people, and we contributed technology and money. ”
"Aren't you afraid that they will swallow our production line in the end?" Xie Kai was a little angry. "This kind of thing, we shouldn't pay for the production line! There is no problem with the investment in technology, but I personally disagree with the investment in the production line. When I got it, I gave Qin Fei all the above sentences. ”
The little coffers of 404 can't just be emptied.
"I also thought about it, and wanted to build an aircraft factory on our side, but the cost was too high. "Zheng Yucheng has not made calculations.
"You don't need to build a factory, you just need to have a workshop. In the future, it will mainly study the core technology of the aircraft and build a test workshop. The production is handed over to Qin Fei, we don't interfere, let's say, let them do the financial matters themselves. If we don't invest money, then we won't cooperate, and when the time comes, we will design it, but we won't be able to produce it, and we won't be able to control it!" Xie Kai said calmly.
As long as the military wants AWACS aircraft, and with 404 investment technology development, prototype manufacturing, etc., Qin Fei wants to contribute without taking money, no.
"Let's go in, old horses, they want to make a better big plane faster. ”
In the conference room, originally with Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng leaving, everyone began to be embarrassed, and then they talked about it, speculating whether the base would agree to the 80 million fund.
It took a while before I saw the two of them come in.
"Regarding the modification design of large aircraft, the acquisition of experimental data, this point, the base will not have any hesitation in terms of investment. We have always been blank in the large plane, and the tuition fees that need to be paid and the make-up fees that need to be paid are indispensable. Zheng Yucheng said a few words and asked Xie Kai to speak.
Ma Fengshan and others also knew that if it wasn't for Xie Kai, the large aircraft project would have been completely finished.
"All along, knowing that the Yun-10 aircraft has irreversible defects, we are still producing and flying! Even if it can fly for 600 hours now, the cost of an airplane is more than 30 million, and the average flight cost of the plane itself has reached 500,000 per hour!" Xie Kai calculated the cost here, and Ma Fengshan and the others were embarrassed.
They didn't know what Xie Kai was trying to say.
Anyway, the cost is high, absolutely.
"Think about it, why do we continue to invest money at such a high cost? We are not a professional aviation design and production unit, nor is it the Ministry of Aviation Industry of the People's Republic of China. All the money we earned it ourselves!"