360 Crazy? Actually wanted to import engines from the Soviet Union
"All the heavy equipment heart problems in your country, the whole world knows. ”
Pakistan's sharp remarks made Zheng Yucheng and others not know how to answer.
Although Xie Kai said that the bass engine can be used, the bass engine has not yet been domestically produced.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the imitation of the bass engine we imported from the UK has been successful. Wang Guilin said.
"The thrust-to-weight ratio of the bass engine is just over 5, is it possible to use two engines? In this case, how to implement the problem of mobility?" Pakistan has a very clear understanding of China's technological base. "We need turbofan engines, otherwise, as soon as the fighters come out, they are already behind. ”
The bass engine was already behind in the seventies.
The engines introduced by China have not made a breakthrough so far.
China has only turbojet engines with high noise, high fuel consumption and low thrust.
The only possible turbofan engine is the bass engine, which China imported from Britain in the seventies, with a full set of technology. However, this engine was not copied successfully.
"Even if your country's bass engine is successfully copied, if you can't complete the improved design, you won't even be able to achieve the thrust-to-weight ratio of 6! This will be the most serious problem of the whole project. ”
In addition to Kachihead, who did not speak, several high-ranking Pakistani officials questioned whether China could solve the power system problem.
Wang Hao never thought that this had not yet entered the negotiations, and it was already like this.
This situation was something he did not expect.
Even if you don't know the situation of the engine, looking at the demeanor and expression of Zheng Yucheng and others, you know that these problems of the other party are completely the weakness of the Chinese side.
Only Xie Kai looked calm.
He couldn't help but wonder how Xie Kai could convince the Pakistanis on this issue.
This is a good learning opportunity, and only by knowing how Xie Kai solves it can we surpass him.
But the domestic engine, except for the liquid engine used in the rocket, is not good, and Wang Hao can only know this way.
"Ladies and gentlemen, your concerns are correct. First of all, I would like to ask you a question, the customer positioning of our fighter jets, and which are our potential customers?" Xie Kai saw that the Pakistanis spoke sharply, and when he originally discussed this issue with Rong Fei and them, he did not give a detailed explanation.
Although at that time it was also talking about bass engines.
The bass engine can really be used, and it must wait until the design is modernized and improved to become the Qinling engine before it can really play a role and improve the performance of the fighter.
"......" and his party were puzzled.
"This kind of fighter, our positioning, needs to be based on the customer. The turbofan engine has to be used for this...... "Xie Kai emphasized. "At the time of the project introduction, there was an introduction to the power system and the use of the bass engine, which is tentative!, right?"
Everyone thought about it, when Wang Hao introduced the project before, it seemed that he really introduced it like this.
In terms of engines, only a brief introduction was made.
"Apart from the imitation of the bass, there are no turbofan engines in China that can be used!" Aref stressed. "Is there any other choice? If the power system is not solved, this fighter project is simply impossible!"
Arefev even felt that he should have seriously thought about this issue in the first place, and the project provided by China was completely ambiguous in terms of power system.
Xie Kai nodded and admitted, "It's true that the Chinese side doesn't, but what about the world? The United States can provide it, France can provide it, and even, the Soviet Union, it may also provide it!"
"What is it?" Zheng Yucheng thought he had misheard.
Even the Pakistanis looked at Xie Kai with some dumbfounded.
They didn't think at all that what Xie Kai didn't introduce, they would actually think about introducing it from other countries in the world.
"It is impossible for the Americans to sell you advanced engines!" During the honeymoon period between China and the United States, there are many cooperation projects, but everyone understands that truly advanced things will not be provided to China at all.
If you want to build such fighters in large quantities, especially to grab orders for American F-16s, it is simply impossible to supply them to China in large quantities.
"They won't provide it to us either!"
"The engines of the French are also not good! And they can't export such things. Zheng Yucheng said to Xie Kai.
Both sides almost disagreed with Xie Kai's statement.
thinks that Xie Kai's plan is not constructive at all.
Wang Hao was even more surprised, Xie Kai seemed to have always mastered the rhythm, and until now, he has not been a little timid.
"The Soviet Union! The most likely thing for us to get the engine is the Soviet Union!" Xie Kai couldn't help but sigh when he saw that no one on either side had ever thought of importing engines from the Soviet Union, these people!
"Neither the United States nor France can sell to us, let alone the Soviet Union. Zheng Yucheng first denied Xie Kai's statement.
It's just nonsense.
"On the face of it, it seems that getting an engine from the USSR is really less likely than getting it from Western countries. But you have to pay attention to the situation in the USSR. Since three years ago, I have been studying the economy of the Soviet Union...... "Xie Kai bragged, completely without drafting.
He paid little attention to even the news from the Soviet side.
Here, to say that he began to study the Soviet economy three years ago, some people question, he can have reason to convince the other party that he is not bragging.
"The economic development of the Soviet Union is becoming more and more stagnant, and the main source of income is energy exports, etc., and now international oil prices are ...... However, their investment in heavy industry is still increasing...... Xie Kai said.
Before he could say a word, he was unceremoniously interrupted by Mubara, "Xie, how the Soviet economy is is has nothing to do with the project." Don't change the subject!"
They believe that Xie Kai is changing the subject.
"Moreover, your relations with the USSR are not good!"
"No, everyone knows that the possibility of war is getting smaller and smaller, otherwise our country would not be able to do a million-dollar disarmament! Our economic reforms have been going on for many years. And now, the Soviet Union has also been seeking economic reforms...... Xie Kai said, "and even, in the near future, Sino-Soviet relations will be greatly improved, and war is not in the interests of both countries." Normalizing relations, which gives us an opportunity. ”
The former Thunder was an improved version of the MiG-29 engine used.
Moreover, China has been importing engines from Russia until the development of the turbofan 10 was completed.
"It's not a high possibility, but it gives us another option. The improvement of the bass engine was not up to the task, so we sought to import it from the Soviet Union. In a time when their economy is down, if there are a large number of engine orders, will they refuse?"
Xie Kai's words were incredible, but at the same time, he thought about it seriously.
Whenever there was an opportunity to import engines from the USSR, all this was not a problem.
"Of course, this is the worst-case scenario, in order to ensure that the project is completed on time, we must have alternatives, and as soon as the project starts, we will have to send a team to contact the Soviet Union......" Xie Kai said, making it impossible for the Pakistanis to refute.
Zheng Yucheng and the others had their faces a little gloomy, but they didn't say anything, trying not to show their anger.
The Pakistanis need to discuss, and that is the end of the first contact.
"Do you really plan to send a team from the base to contact the Soviet Union?" Zheng Yucheng asked Xie Kai.
Xie Kai nodded, "Why not?"
"Do you know what the impact this will be, and our relations with the Soviet Union are still strained!" Wang Guilin reminded Xie Kai.
"Yes. But since '82, relations between our country and the Soviet Union have improved, although they still haven't withdrawn the troops on the border...... "Xie Kai knows very well that relations with the Soviet Union will be normalized because the new Soviet leaders come to power to adjust their strategies and learn from China's focus on economic reform."
"You know what a fart!" Zheng Yucheng slapped the table and scolded Xie Kai angrily, "Have you thought about what your superiors will do with us?
"Report to your superiors, and your superiors will approve your actions again. Xie Kai replied easily.
The Soviet Union, he felt he had to go.
It's about to fall, all kinds of good things, don't get some back, I'm a little sorry for myself.
The problem is that the right entry point has not been found.
If it had been proposed to seek to import engines from the Soviet Union, Zheng Yucheng and they would definitely kill the plan.
Contacts with the Soviet Union, the impact was really big.
It's almost the same as treason and defection to the enemy.
In this remote northwest, Zheng Yucheng and others don't know what the relationship between the two countries is.
The Soviet Union has already withdrawn part of its troops, and the possibility of war between the two countries is becoming less and less, otherwise, the country can adjust its strategic center of gravity, and the whole country will work for economic development?
Military production has been reduced to an extreme, and even a million-dollar disarmament has been proposed.
Since he knew that his father had a lot of connections in the Soviet Union, Xie Kai was planning this matter, he not only needed to help the base with Soviet equipment, technology, and talents, but also had to make a fortune himself.
If it weren't for these, he wouldn't have pushed out Wang Haolai.
Hiding behind the scenes, muffling to make a fortune, how good.
"What if you don't approve it?" Zheng Yucheng was so angry that he was about to have a heart attack.
"If we import from the Soviet Union, if we really reach an agreement, the engine will always be pinched by our necks by the Soviets. Wang Guilin said worriedly, "What's more, this will make our domestic aero engine development work even worse." ”
"Even if we put in it, the bass engine can really be used for this project?" Xie Kai asked.
Several people could not answer at all.
The imitation work of the bass engine has not stopped, and even the country's investment in this is very large, and the J-7 has been affected by the progress of engine localization.
"You need to do both hands, you need to prepare. We cannot hope for the United States or other European countries. Relations with us are only to win us over against the Soviet Union......," Xie Kai said.