250 caliber is truth, range is justice
"Are these your thoughts, or are they the thoughts of other people in your base?" Cao Yunyang asked Xie Kai.
Everyone looked at Xie Kai.
These things Xie Kai said seem very simple, but they actually require a lot of skills.
Unless someone has done all this, Xie Kai will memorize it and introduce it to them.
"The 359 tank project at our base, everything was put forward by Comrade Xie Kai, and the breakthrough was made so quickly thanks to his advice. Next month, the live-fire test firing of the 125 mm caliber tank gun produced by the 541 base for us will begin!" Zheng Yucheng introduced Xie Kai to everyone with a smile at this time.
Zheng Yucheng was very satisfied with their reaction.
Xie Kai finally filed the spirit of these bullish technicians.
Zheng Yucheng also knew that they had resentment in their hearts, after all, everyone had anger when they transferred people from the project they were studying to 404.
"So, he proposed this self-propelled artillery scheme, and after a night of research and argumentation, our technicians began to spread out. Since our 359 tank project is currently at a critical stage, we have made a request to our superiors to come and help us develop this self-propelled gun. Wang Guilin also spoke.
A group of technicians from the Institute of Armored Forces were embarrassed.
People are professionals.
No wonder they were in trouble, and these managers of the 404 base were silent, making it clear that they were watching the excitement.
"So, what we need people to do is to put these technologies together, and it's not too difficult. Qi Zhiyuan said.
Xie Kai looked at the group of old guys with contempt.
I watched myself being harassed before.
But for now, the trouble is certainly not over.
"It doesn't sound that much difficulty, but I don't know if you have ever thought about the difficulty of integrating these technologies. Whether it is a fire control system, an automatic loader, or even a shock absorption system, etc., it needs to be considered, and the perfect fit can become a whole...... "Huang Aimin heard these people who don't understand technology say that it is not difficult, but it is a burst of fire.
It's a lot more polite now.
"That's true. Technologies such as automatic loaders for tanks cannot be used directly, everything has to be redesigned. Xie Kai nodded and said. "You're all experts in this field, so I think there should be no problem. ”
His compliments made it difficult for everyone to question them.
"The core artillery can use the new gun steel material of our 359 tank gun and the self-tightening of the barrel to improve the service life of the barrel...... At the same time, we need to develop various new types of ammunition. Xie Kai continued.
At the same time, some of the technologies that can be used on self-propelled guns of the 359 tank project are explained and elaborated in detail.
Even the same type of technology needs to be modified and designed.
Xie Kai explained these technologies in great detail.
He knew the difference between these technologies and self-propelled guns.
Self-propelled guns can be seen as a simplified version of the tank, and at the same time, the tank can also be considered a complex self-propelled gun.
China inherited the Soviet artillery ideology, and even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the artillery units of the PLA continued to develop wildly.
A heavy tank, itself a self-propelled gun, can also be described as an upgraded version of a self-propelled gun.
Both have different functions and play different roles in war.
Tanks are used for front-line charges, and artillery is used for rear support.
Self-propelled guns are far less technically demanding than tanks, and do not require too strong defense, after all, they are equipment and units that belong to the rear fire support, and they only need to constantly increase their attack power.
Xie Kai's introduction can be said to have opened a new door for Cao Yunyang and other technicians, who were engaged in the development of self-propelled artillery-related technologies before, and no one had ever positioned self-propelled artillery so clearly for them.
"Therefore, our self-propelled artillery does not need to be too high in terms of protection capabilities, it only needs to be able to defend against the penetration of ordinary grenades and 62mm machine gun shells, ordinary mortars can kill by fragments, and they don't need to be scrapped with a grenade......"
"Artillery was originally used for long-range fire support, can this aspect be abandoned?" Huang Aimin frowned and looked at Xie Kai.
In general, self-propelled guns were hiding in the rear to provide long-range artillery support.
The construction of artillery units, the PLA, is no worse than any country in the world.
"No, especially air defense, it is necessary to have. Therefore, in the project plan, we considered the installation of a 7 mm high-level dual-purpose machine gun. In this way, it can defend against helicopters in the air, and it can also prevent infantry from getting close......" Xie Kai shook his head and said.
The further you go, the more self-propelled guns are no different from tanks.
Before I wanted to, the artillery position was in the back, and a single grenade could destroy the entire artillery position.
Artillery can also fire missiles, which is called artillery missiles, which have high accuracy and strong attack power, but also lose the advantage of cheap large-scale intensive strikes.
Xie Kai knows the future development, so he naturally will not choose low-end step-by-step upgrades.
That is a waste of money for the troops.
"In this way, the armor has to be improved, so that the power performance will ......be reduced," Cao Yunyang said with a frown, "The role of artillery is long-range fire support." ”
"That's in the traditional sense. Our artillery positioning is to provide fire support for our assault armored forces and knock out the enemy's artillery requisition behind it!" Xie Kai said categorically, "At the same time, our artillery must also have the role of following the tank group forward!"
Self-propelled guns have a much longer range than tanks and can use a wider variety of ammunition.
As a person who has come over, Xie Kai has greater expectations for self-propelled guns.
Due to the problem of industrial level, it is impossible to directly make the world's most advanced PLZ05 type 155 caliber self-propelled gun, but he also hopes to make too many business trips.
This thing, the number of external exports will not be small, and the price of a self-propelled gun is even higher than that of a tank.
"Artillery belongs to the rear support, and it will always accompany the tank forward, isn't it too ......" Cao Yunyang was a little puzzled.
The tank cluster itself is a heavy artillery cluster.
This is mobile heavy artillery.
"What about when encountering a storm? The firing range of tank guns is not hard and fast for accuracy, but also for armor-piercing ability. If our tank group is engaged in hand-to-hand combat with the enemy's tank group, and they hide in the rear artillery positions to support their tank group, how do we solve it?" Xie Kai asked.
In this era, various operational theories were far less abundant than those of later generations.
In particular, the fighting style of the Americans in the Gulf War has stimulated the whole world to conduct in-depth research and analysis of the future war situation.
"Western countries don't have those ideas. "As professionals in artillery research, Cao Yunyang and others have a very clear understanding of the development of international artillery.
Xie Kai said that there is no problem with the theory.
However, there is too much gap with the mainstream international development theory.
"Following the trend can always only walk behind others, and only creating the trend is the only way for a military power to develop itself. Xie Kai said seriously, "The history of our founding is very short, and the industrial development is nearly 150 years less than that of foreign countries. How long will it take us if we only follow them?"
Xie Kai's words are irrefutable.
There is no way to refute it.
China has always been following the path taken abroad.
"So, we can't think about what happens abroad, we think about what we need. This project of ours is used as the rear fire support of the 359 tanks, and our purpose is to export! The domestic military is too poor, so advanced, at this stage, they cannot afford to buy a few. Zheng Yucheng said.
According to Xie Kai's budget, such artillery can be sold for two or three million dollars, and it will be five or six million or even more for soft girls.
How much can the military equip?
This cannon is still going for the money bags of the Iraqis and the Iranians.
"What do you think about the caliber of artillery, you can talk about it. Zheng Yucheng saw that others did not refute, and began to raise the issue of artillery caliber, "According to our existing technology, 52 times the body tube may be very difficult, and 45 times should not be a problem." ”
The length of the barrel of the 359 tank is two, 45 times the diameter of the self-use model and 39 times the diameter of the foreign trade model.
At the same time, 45 or even 50 times the diameter may be used in the third generation of tanks in full domestic form.
"I think that the larger the caliber, the more powerful it is, and the 52 times diameter 155 gun is the best!" Cao Yunyang was the first to say.
For domestic artillery experts, let alone 155, as long as the technology is sufficient, they are even eager to make a self-propelled gun with a caliber of 203 mm.
"The 122 mm caliber gun is more technologically mature and at the same time has a wider range of use. In this regard, Huang Aimin feels that he has a lot of power.
122 mm caliber artillery, which is relatively common in the world.
Calibers above 152 mm are all fire support for military-level troops, and small countries can't make up a single army in total.
For foreign trade, 122 mm is better.
"No, the 152 caliber artillery is more powerful and has a wider range, although the bomb load is much less, but the power is enough to make up for it, and the range is wider......" Cao Yunyang, like most people in China, belongs to the idea of artillery.
The larger the caliber, the more powerful the cannon will be.
It is also because of their presence that domestic artillery eventually became the most advanced in the world.
"Caliber is truth, range is justice. Cao Yunyang further emphasized.
"I still think that the 122 mm caliber is more suitable. As fire support for tank units, artillery of this caliber is sufficient, and the firing range of only 30 km is enough to meet the requirements. ”
"The caliber of our tank guns is 125 mm, and you use 122 mm caliber as support? Isn't this shabby!" Zheng Yucheng spoke.
In their opinion, the same caliber of artillery, the more powerful it is.