Chapter 1367 - Confucian Core Human Needs (Overhaul)

Don't look at Zeng Guofan's path as all scholars, he is really a little different. Pen × fun × Pavilion www. biquge。 info

Although he has become a member of the first rank and has become a supreme minister, he has never stopped thinking about putting into practice the way of Confucius and Mencius that he has learned.

He didn't count on his Manchu colleagues. Even their Han Chinese colleagues were mostly subservients, and the most important thing they thought about was not to offend those Manchu royal families.

And those people still attach great importance to the way of Confucius and Mencius, but they don't care about it in their hearts, and they are only used as a stepping stone for promotion, and once the door is opened, they are thrown aside.

Zeng Guofan attached great importance to it as always, so when he and Mai Ke discussed the issue of "Xi", he rekindled his dream of many years.

At the same time, this also made him consciously or unintentionally determined to continue to oppose the kingdom of heaven to the end.

Seeing that he fell into a deep groan again, Mai Ke continued the comparison and conclusion just now, "Disheng, do you now agree that the basic proposition of Christianity is to love others, and the essence of the way of Confucius and Mencius is to be loyal to the king, not the benevolent and loving others as you began to say?"

"My understanding of Christianity has changed now, and I agree with you that Christianity has the requirement of "loving others", but it may not be possible to fulfill the requirements. I've heard many people say that Christianity is very unkind to punish people who don't believe in the same religion as they do. ”

"You're right, there is such a thing, but we can put this practical thing aside and know what the basic proposition of the two is. And then we will talk about the solution. ”

"In that case, I think I can agree with what you just said, there is a difference between the two. ”

Lao Zeng did not dwell on this level and agreed with McKe's statement.

Then, Zeng Guofan asked, "So, how does Christianity 'love others'?"

McKe saw that he had entered his predetermined mode, and said with a smile: "Before answering this question, Disheng, let me ask you a more fundamental question, do you agree with the beginning of human beings, is nature inherently good, or agree with the beginning of people, nature is inherently evil?"

"Haha! There's really no definite answer to that question. ”

Probably this is also Zeng Guofan's area of expertise, he did not hesitate, and immediately replied: "I agree with the beginning of the "Three Character Classic" to educate young children, the nature is good, and I also agree that the sex is similar, the habits are far away, and it takes education and good influence on children to learn well; ”

"I think ha, Disheng, you may not have noticed a contradiction in the inherent goodness of human nature. If human nature is originally good, it does not need to be taught later to become better; and if everyone is good, there is no need for that evil environment to come from, and there is no need to change places and pick on the blind toss of the environment! And the fundamental reason why these education and other blind tosses are needed comes from the inherent evil of human nature. ”

"I don't really have anything to do with you saying that. Maybe the Three Character Sutra describes the state that Master Dacheng dreamed of recovering, I think. ”

"It's possible. Self-denial was what his old man pursued all his life! If you look at the understanding of Christianity, it is even more interesting. The Christian Bible says that when man was first created, human nature came from God, and it was really good by nature, that is, at that time, human nature met God's standards. ”

"In that case, why did you just say that human nature is inherently evil? Don't you particularly believe in the Bible?"

Zeng Guofan asked suspiciously.

Since the last time he met McKee, he had spent a lot of time reading the Bible, the one McKee had given him.

Mai Ke nodded, shook his head again, and said regretfully: "It's a pity that the old ancestor didn't resist the temptation and committed a crime, and since then, he has turned away from God, that is, his nature is evil;

Actually, in this way, Master Dacheng's understanding of reality is the same as Xunzi's, otherwise he wouldn't have to go back to the world. If people are all good by nature, can they go back and become unkind?"

Lao Zeng really has a touch of bypass!

Later, Zhu Zi's advocacy of preserving the principle of heaven and destroying human desires is also a truth; if human desires are not evil, why should they be destroyed? And this evil desire obviously comes out of this evil nature. ”

This high-ranking Manchu education minister appears to be well-versed in the past and the present.

"Hahaha, Brother Disheng is so right. ”

The two of them agreed on at least this aspect, and both agreed that human nature is inherently evil.

It was with that consensus as a basis that it was possible to continue the discussions.

"Brother Mai Ke is not bad!" Lao Zeng reciprocated, "However, what does this have to do with the Christian idea of loving people that you mentioned earlier?"

"It has a lot to do with it! Human nature is evil, people act according to their nature, will they love others?"

Even if they don't harm others, it is because they are afraid of harming others and causing harm, not because they have the desire to love others. ”

"Therefore loving others is something that a man who is evil in nature cannot do. ”

Mai Ke points to the root of the Christian faith!

Therefore, the solution to the problem of Christianity is to change people's hearts and turn the original sexual evil into sexual good. ”

McKee said plainly and simply.

"Don't say it, in fact, the way of Confucius and Mencius is also doing this, but it is not as clear as you said, what we attach most importance to is education, and Dacheng also put forward the principle of non-discriminatory education, that is, there is no class in education. ”

"Brother Disheng reacted really quickly. Yes, there are similarities, but I have to tell you about the key differences. Christianity also has teachings and doctrines, but these are auxiliary, and what can really change people's hearts is God's own work, and people are only assistants to God in this process. ”

"It's really unheard of. However, what you said is very interesting, you mentioned that God has turned man's evil into goodness, can you tell me how to do it? I also want to learn to do it, you know? I think the biggest similarity between Christianity and Confucius and Mencius is that it satisfies people's needs! If you don't believe it, if you look at how the Confucian characters are written, that is, people need to be Confucian!"

But I must say that this purpose may have been like this in the early days, but now it has changed a lot, and as we have just analyzed, the benevolent person who loves others has become the king who loves the king, and then this person's need has become the king's need, and everything revolves around the king! Do you know what Jesus said about this? He said, "The king, he must serve everyone!" So he laid down his life for those sinners. ”