772 Chief, this is not a threat, it is just a gesture
Moving away from Lucky Ten is obviously an expression of dissatisfaction.
Do not give the Americans any chance to harm the large domestic aircraft.
"It's too time-consuming for you to move, just stay here, and it's easier for us to cooperate with each other, isn't it?" Sun Daoqian persuaded, hoping that Zheng Yucheng and them would change their minds.
But in any case, Zheng Yu Chengdu said that he would move Yunshi back to the 404 base.
"We can't let them move out, and once they do, the cooperation between us will probably be terminated, and they will even poach our people. Su Xingguo looked sad, "We are not the only ones who can produce large aircraft." At that time, if Lockheed can't negotiate cooperation, and they also move away, our entire factory will be in trouble. ”
How did Sun Daoqian not know, "The Yunshi project now belongs to their own unit project, although the above attaches great importance to it, but there is no financial allocation, if they really want to move away, we can't stop it, and even the higher-level leaders can't give direct orders." ”
Yun Shi was dismounted at the beginning.
404 took over, continued to invest, and even poached people from the field of domestic transport aircraft to enrich the R&D team, raising many supporting factories for the entire domestic large aircraft. In a hurry, they abandoned the project, and the superiors either continued to invest, or watched the successful large aircraft dismount again because of financial problems.
This time it's really going to be successful, and it's completely different from before.
There is no way to effectively solve the problems of structural strength and other problems of the original Yunten, and the service life of the body is very short.
Now it is different, the large press has completed trial production, and now it is continuing to solve the main structural components of the Yunshi aircraft, the strength of the engine design and the manufacturing process.
If we don't continue to do it, it will not only destroy the 11 large aircraft, but also the entire supporting industry of the 10 major aircraft.
The military will certainly not allow that to happen.
Keep investing?
The military is poor, there is no money at all.
Li Mingshan felt that he shouldn't come this time, Qin Fei and the others wanted to talk about the introduction, and they would raise funds to introduce the manufacturing technology of American military transport planes, and then they could also promote the transformation and development of the Yun-10.
The above is not very supportive of such a project, and of course, there is no opposition to it.
What leader doesn't want his domestic technology to be stronger?
"Chief, what should we do now!" Sun Daoqian saw that Li Mingshan didn't speak, if Li Mingshan didn't help, they would be completely cold.
Introducing Lockheed's C-141 manufacturing technology?
They would never have been able to raise enough money on their own.
The 404 brothers needed a lot of money for their resources.
"They made it clear that they would not bring in technology. Li Mingshan sighed, "Under the current situation, whoever is in their position will do so, and Yun Shiyan will see that it has succeeded." ”
"But we have a domestic ......" Su Xingguo was a little anxious.
Didn't the leaders support their cooperation with Lockheed before?
"The Air Force will have a great demand for large military transport aircraft in the future, and that is a long-term plan. However, at present, the implementation of the national defense policy of strategic defense is not very demanding. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars to introduce manufacturing technology, in the case of small demand, the production of aircraft to dilute the cost of technology introduction, which will make the unit cost very high, which is not the Air Force's military spending can afford......"
Qin Fei's people didn't expect that Li Mingshan had changed his attitude now.
Li Mingshan can't explain it, he can't say that he was not very optimistic from the beginning, right?
If it can be introduced, 404 is willing to spend a lot of money to introduce, and finally the technology is digested and used in the modification of Yun Shi, which can make Yun Shi develop faster, right?
Now it's good, I've become a rat drilling bellows, not a human inside and out.
Zheng Yucheng: They all blame themselves.
"Moving to the base, the supporting facilities in the base, etc., are not as perfect as here. Cheng was a little puzzled from time to time, "Here, design and production can be seamlessly connected, and any problems can be improved immediately." When you move back to the base, you have to run back and forth, which is not cheap. ”
Ma Fengshan and the others were silent.
They are thinking more about the development prospects of the Yun-10, how to improve the technology of the Yun-10 better and faster, so that this kind of large aircraft for which they have paid countless efforts has a brighter future.
"Ma Lao, what do you think?" Xie Kai saw that Ma Fengshan was silent and asked.
Everyone knows that it is more appropriate for Yun Shi to move back to the 404 base than to put it in Qin Fei.
Unless 404 builds another factory for the production of aircraft.
The matter of building a factory was originally determined that 404 would not even build an assembly plant for large aircraft, and would use Qin Fei's large aircraft production line to transform, so that the cost would be much lower.
"I think it's better to stay here. Ma Fengshan said, "You are worried that Qin Fei's cooperation with Lockheed and the introduction of C-141 transport opportunities will have an impact on the development of our Yun-10, I personally think it is unlikely." ”
"How do you say this?" Zheng Yucheng came up.
"It is impossible for the Americans to sell their strategic transport aircraft, especially to us. Ma Fengshan said firmly, "Even the C-130, which was developed in the fifties in the less than 100-ton class and has a maximum take-off weight of only 70 tons, is reluctant to sell, let alone a more advanced jet transport aircraft." ”
When it comes to aircraft research, Ma Fengshan is an expert.
He naturally knows well about the various large aircraft that are open to the public throughout the world.
"What if they have a better and more advanced technology? The core technology will not be sold, and if it is sold, it can recover part of the research and development funds and then use it in the development of new aircraft. Zheng Yucheng felt that this reason was untenable.
"Those who are not of my race will have different hearts. Xie Kai added.
He knew that the C-141 would soon be replaced by the C-17 in the future, and now Lockheed's C-17 has been studied for several years, and although the prototype has not yet appeared, it will be in service with the US military in a few years.
Even then, the C-141 will remain in service until the XXI century.
In such a situation, it is impossible for the Americans to let the detailed performance of their aircraft be known to others, just because this is a military transport aircraft of the strategic level.
Ma Fengshan looked at Xie Kai, the corners of his mouth rose, he wouldn't say this, and it was impossible for him to say it.
"Qin Fei's purpose is obvious, he wants to do his own projects, not to cooperate with us all the time. Relatively speaking, we are among the contenders. Xie Kai said, "But as long as you do other projects, it will hinder the research and development progress of Yunshi." Under the current circumstances, Yun Shi must not be affected in any way. Moving away is to show our attitude and tell them that the cooperation may be terminated at any time!"
Moving away from Yun Shi is not only for Qin Fei's people, but also for military leaders.
Whoever wants to replace Yun Ten with another project can't do it.
Yun Shi carries the dreams of too many people.
"It doesn't mean to be introduced. Ma Fengshan emphasized.
"Then what is Li Mingshan doing here? They are eager to introduce it immediately, although the Air Force can't use it now. Zheng Yuchengcai didn't believe that his superiors didn't have ideas.
At present, it is not introduced, because there is no money in the hands of the military.
"Naturally, the military chiefs want our technology reserves to be richer. Ma Fengshan's words were full of bitterness, "The United States and the Soviet Union, large transport planes are getting bigger and bigger, and they are constantly building large-scale airdrop capabilities around the world, and our army doesn't even have large planes, so they rely on dozens of Y-8s with poor transport capacity, don't you have any ideas?"
This is completely understandable.
Zheng Yucheng also understands that countries are like this, I want to have people, and I want to have people who don't.
Only by maintaining a leading position in science and technology and superiority in equipment can national defense be as stable as a rock.
Those who are engaged in the military industry know that therefore, the national defense science and technology workers in the entire military industrial system are desperately trying to research more advanced technologies, but the time since the founding of New China has been too short, they have always been poor, the technical foundation is weak, and the supporting facilities are not perfect.
"It's really disturbing. The C-5, which was in service with the United States in the seventies, has a maximum take-off weight of 379 tons, and the maximum load capacity can reach 130 tons...... The Soviet An-124 has a maximum take-off weight of more than 400 tons, and the maximum load capacity can reach 150 tons...... "Speaking of which, it is impossible not to envy.
Who doesn't want their country to be so powerful?
There is also the An-225 with a maximum take-off weight of more than 600 tons and a maximum load capacity of more than 250 tons, and the United States also has a super-large aircraft project in front of it, which is still in absolute secrecy, and finally because of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States gave up such an idea.
"If you don't move it, you can't do it? Moving back will take a lot of time, and you will have to build an aircraft factory over there, and you will have to build everything around it, and you will have to build it repeatedly, wasting costs. Li Mingshan looked at Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng and asked in a consultative tone.
"No, once Qin Fei and Lockheed reach a cooperation, their technicians will definitely be dispatched to study that ......" Xie Kai looked at Li Mingshan and didn't say whether to move or not. "Moreover, this is similar to the performance data of the Yun-10's widebody......"
"Now it's just a possibility. We all know that foreign countries will not willingly give us technology, and if we really want to move away, it is okay to move away when the negotiations are made here? Li Mingshan said, "Besides, as long as you don't agree to participate in the cooperation with Lockheed, this negotiation will not be resolved in a short time." ”
Qin Fei has no money.
Li Mingshan was even more worried that Zheng Yucheng and others were angry and built a large aircraft factory by themselves in the depths of Qilian Mountain.
Originally, there were many places that needed to spend money now, and then these squeezed out research funds, isn't it cost-effective?
"It's okay not to move, as long as it doesn't affect the development of our Yunshi. Zheng Yucheng said, "We don't care if others want to buy or something to develop technology, but in our place, it's impossible!"
"Yes, chief, it's not that we're blackmailing it, it's what it is. If it is really necessary, it is a big deal that we will increase the production line of large transport aircraft in the aircraft factory of the base. Xie Kai said calmly.
404 is building an aircraft production plant, Li Mingshan is aware.
Of course, the aircraft production plant there is not for the mass production of fighters, but for the production of various models and technical verification machines, and more importantly, for the development and production of unmanned aerial vehicles.
"What level of specific performance can the Yun-10's wide-body aircraft reach?" Li Mingshan said nothing else.