685 $1 billion for 359 tank production technology
"It's very little. You sell tanks, how much profit you make, you know. If it weren't for the fact that part of the profits of the tank was handed over and the foreign exchange reservation was left to the management department, your current situation would have been untenable......"
Li Mingshan turned his head to look at Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng who were sitting next to him.
Both of them are too hard to pick the door.
It's like Pixiu, you only eat and don't pull, which is unacceptable.
"Chief, if not, give 50 million dollars. Our 404 stall is big, and we need more funds...... "Xie Kai thinks that if you can give less, you can give less.
Everyone thinks like this, wishing they had more in their little coffers.
He also understands that it is difficult to go out without giving some money.
They take the technology from other units for free, and then integrate the technology and sell it, and in the long run, they will have no friends.
"Don't cry poor here, you are in the whole system, and you are the most prosperous unit, and you are more than well-off. If you get rich first, you have to drive the units that are later rich to develop together and make progress together. Li Mingshan glared at Xie Kai.
Zheng Yucheng didn't speak either.
"Chief, can the idle production line of 541 be sold?" Xie Kai asked.
It's more appropriate to change the subject.
"In principle, there is no objection to the transfer of non-core technologies. Li Mingshan replied.
"Not only some production equipment of 404, but also some steel production lines built by the third line, mining equipment production, etc., ......" Zheng Yucheng thought about the African plan, and also planned to export the idle production lines of the third-line units.
There was no precedent at all.
In the past, it was rare to aid the construction of foreign countries, and there were few such complete sets of equipment and entire production lines, which was also a national act.
Now so, it is for sale.
To produce a new one, not to mention the high cost, the production cycle will also be very long.
According to the idea of Zheng Yucheng and others, the backward production line can be sold to quickly produce benefits, and at the same time, the funds from the sale of equipment and production lines can be used to upgrade the domestic production line.
Of course, there will definitely be a certain amount of money to be paid in China.
"Military production line?" Li Mingshan frowned.
"No, it's just an ordinary production line for steel, fertilizer, etc. Zheng Yucheng explained, "It is mainly used to support the economic development of African brothers......
Immediately gave a brief introduction to their plan.
Li Mingshan had heard of this plan before, but he had never seen any movement, but now listening to Zheng Yucheng's explanation, he feels that it is very feasible.
"It's not a military industry, and it won't cause technical leaks, so it's a good thing to replace idle and backward production equipment with funds. However, those units are all under the jurisdiction of the SASAC...... "the production lines of ordinary units, which are state-owned assets and are not under the jurisdiction of the military."
"We are ready to provide the production line of the tertiary production unit of the military system. Fertilizer and water don't flow into outsiders' fields. Xie Kai said with a small grin.
At that time, the construction of the third line reserved almost the entire country's industrial system.
The military industrial system is closely related to ordinary industries.
For example, smelters.
This even requires higher smelting technology and mining industry than ordinary steel smelters, after all, weapons and equipment have higher requirements for raw materials.
Another example is a chemical plant.
In addition to the production line, there must also be a chemical plant for the production of primers and propellants, which can be used for fertilizer production with a little modification......
"Let's look into it when the time comes. As long as it does not affect domestic production, the problem will not be too big. Li Mingshan felt that this plan was feasible, and did not give a positive answer.
Along the way, I learned in detail about 404's cooperation with the Egyptians.
As for the issue of 404's sale of production lines, the superiors still have that attitude, and they do not support or oppose it.
What's the use of opposing it?
It has been sold to Pakistan, and with Zheng Yucheng's courage, it is really not good, and the production line will be exported through Pakistan.
After waiting for a few days and receiving a reply from the Chinese side, Muhanad asked suspiciously, "Isn't the production line included in the $200 million technology transfer fee?"
"Mr. Minister, the technology transfer fee is just a simple technology license...... If the production line is included, how can the price be so low?" Xie Kai asked.
Muhanad doesn't know, but who doesn't want better technology at a lower price?
"You don't have the technology to produce 1200 horsepower engines!" Aryav looked at Xie Kai and the others, "At the same time, there is no ...... of too advanced fire control system"
"Sir, if that's the case, there's no need for us to go on. The performance of the 359 tank, on the battlefield in the Middle East, has been fully demonstrated. The power system, the fire control system, and even the protection system have reached a reasonable balance...... "Xie Kaicai ignored the other party.
It's completely vexatious.
Lowering the price, it has to be on the point, right?
"Under your country's Ramses 2 main battle tank program, the first phase is to purchase 425 sets of modified parts from Taylordyne Continental Automotive for modification, and the second phase is to expect technical assistance from the United States to build a factory to produce modified parts...... And the contract between us, from the beginning of the contract to help you build a tank parts production plant......," Xie Kai shocked the Egyptians again, "such conditions, 200 million US dollars in technology transfer fees, is it high? Since the production line is our domestic ready-made equipment, as long as the funds are in place, the production plant in your country is built, the equipment is transported, and it is directly installed in place, and the trial production of parts and components can be carried out...... This process doesn't take too long......"
The Egyptians could not imagine how the Chinese could obtain the details of their contract with the Americans.
In such a situation, they are completely in a passive position in the negotiation process.
Agree?
I always feel that the cost is too high.
Disagree?
Egypt simply did not have access to a full-fledged technology for the production of tanks.
What Xie Kai proposed now is also what they care about the most.
"Thanks, there is one more question, the NATO standard caliber is 120 mm...... And your 359 tanks, which are based on Soviet standard 125 calibers...... "Ariav complained.
359 tanks, the main gun cannot use NATO standard ammunition.
"The $200 million technology transfer fee includes conventional ammunition production technology ......," Xie Kai said calmly, "In addition, the 840 T54/55 tank guns equipped by your country do not use NATO standard ammunition, right?"
Egypt is not a NATO country, although it has been consolidating its ties with the United States.
Xie Kai this time, obviously in order to grab the order of the United States, naturally will not get more benefits for the United States, and agreed to install 359 caliber tank guns that can use NATO standard ammunition on the 120 tank.
"We are currently working on a modification of the T54/55 tanks, equipped with 120 NATO caliber guns, unified caliber, and logistical supply ......," Aryaf defended.
"The Americans are still going to sell you a batch of M60A3, right?" Xie Kai asked with a sneer.
Aliyaf had a ghostly expression on his face, and before he could speak, Muhanad changed the subject, "Xie, we are talking about cooperation between the two sides now. ”
I am also secretly scolding in my heart, why did these news be known to Chinese intelligence officers!
Chinese intelligence officers, I haven't heard that they have too strong capabilities, are they really pervasive?
Xie Kai looked at their reactions and sneered in his heart, sure enough.
The unified use of NATO ammunition will make it more convenient for Europe and the United States to sell weapons and equipment to them in the future.
"125 mm caliber, which is standard for our 359 tanks. By providing ammunition to your country, the production technology of tank guns is also provided, and your country can upgrade the T54/55, which is currently equipped with a large number of them, without the need to introduce M68 artillery from the United States...... Xie Kai said.
Anyway, the Americans helped Egypt to remodel, just so that the upgraded T54/55 parts can be used in common with the M60 series.
Instead of this, it is better to disgust the Americans once.
Egypt is equipped with American tanks in the back, the total number of which is more than 2000 units, what a huge order!
The price of those tanks is not as cheap as the 59 tank.
"Tail stabilized armor-piercing shells, these munitions are also included?" asked Muhanad.
Xie Kai rolled his eyes, "Mr. Minister, even if we provide materials, can your country's technical base produce it?"
“……”
Discrimination!
The Egyptians think that Xie Kai is completely discriminating against them, why do they think that Egypt cannot produce it?
"Mr. Minister, the restrictions on the export of technologies related to weapons and equipment in our country are much more severe than those imposed on us in Batumi. This matter must be agreed upon as soon as possible to create a fait accompli, otherwise our superior competent unit will issue a ban, and even if we want to provide it, it will be difficult for you to ...... it if you are willing" Xie Kai began to threaten the other party.
Too much nonsense.
If you want to cooperate, you can sign the contract directly, pay the money with one hand, and hand over the production line with the other, as for such trouble?
"We need to have the technology for the production of tank guns, composite armor, engines, etc...... It's not you who supply the finished product, we assemble it, but we produce it ourselves......" The Egyptians began to bargain over the details.
Xie Kai did not object, "Mr. Minister, these are all within the scope of the mandate. However, there is one thing that must be stated, for example, for the steel used to produce tank guns, we can provide raw materials, but not raw material recipes...... Includes specific recipes for composite armor......"
"This kid is really insidious! It is entirely the same trick that the Soviet Union and Europe and the United States used to deal with us before! There is no material production, and this is not up to the Chinese side to have the final say!" Li Mingshan was also happy when he heard this condition.
Even if foreign countries get material samples and analyze the material composition, in the end, it is useless to figure out the production process.
Europe and the United States are more technologically advanced than China, and if you want to analyze the production process through material composition, you need to pay a lot of price.
So far, China has obtained the material formula, and a large number of high-end materials still need to be imported......
“…… 300 359 tanks, the total price is 660 million US dollars, about the production technology of 359 tanks, the transfer fee is 200 million US dollars, the production of composite armor, tank guns, power systems, etc., the relevant factories that produce composite armor, tank guns, power systems, etc., supplement the equipment and production workshops that are not available in your country's 200 factories, and the procurement cost is about 140 million US dollars......" Xie Kai looked at the Egyptians with a smile on his face, "The total price is 1 billion US dollars......
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