Xie Kai's sentence of "no funds" made the entire conference room look at him in surprise.

How can you do research without funding?

"Xie Kai, where are you?" Zheng Yucheng jumped up anxiously when he heard Xie Kai's words, "If you don't have funds, how can you continue to research?"

Xie Kai ignored Zheng Yucheng and stared at Li Mingshan.

Li Mingshan was also curious about what this kid was going to say, he would not easily promise the conditions of the subordinate units and agree to their unreasonable demands.

Looking at Xie Kai, he took a deep breath and calmed himself, "Let's talk about it, as long as it doesn't violate the principles, I will apply to my superiors." ”

"We don't need funding, as long as the military chief gives a policy, such a non-state project, we raise our own research funds and operate independently. Xie Kai said. "Allows us to seek international partners for technology development. ”

As soon as these words came out, even the angry Zheng Yucheng understood this kid's calculations.

"Electromagnetic bombs are advanced technology, and seeking international cooperation will cause technical leaks. Li Mingshan thought for a while before answering Xie Kai's words seriously.

Xie Kai's purpose is obvious, to seek foreign funding to continue the development of electromagnetic bomb-related technologies.

Such a technology belongs to the country's top cutting-edge technology, and it is difficult to export it.

"If it is not a national project, it cannot be studied without funds. Seeking funds abroad to continue development, we retain the most advanced technology, how can we leak secrets?" Zheng Yucheng stood on Xie Kai's side.

Many of their weapons are aimed at large foreign purchasers, even heavy equipment projects such as tanks.

If the military agrees to give them autonomy, the funding problem will be easily resolved.

"Chief, in fact, this technology seems to be advanced, and it is not easy to obtain greater power. The amount of money needed will be huge. The base can't support it! The research has come out, we don't equip it, and the technology can only be sealed in the archives. In this way, the progress of research can be imagined, and even it will be completely stagnant...... "Xie Kai knows that it is not easy to gain autonomy.

Li Mingshan obviously knew it, so he said such a thing.

Any advanced technology will be kept secret, not only at home, but also abroad. The most advanced, the best, will always be used for yourself, no matter how much money you have, you won't sell it.

The problem is that if you don't sell technology, or even products, you can't recover the money you invested.

"That being said, once a technology leak is caused, it will pose a great threat to national defense. Strategic weapons can deter the enemy because the enemy does not have a clear understanding of performance. Once the performance is understood, the countermeasures are studied in a targeted manner, and the deterrent effect is lost. Li Mingshan said.

"This is not a strategic deterrent weapon, although it has a deterrent effect. Many times, only by daring to show the sword can the enemy see the edge of the sword. Otherwise, the enemy thinks that the sword in the scabbard is unbladed. Xie Kai replied-for-tat. "In the current international situation, the possibility of war is very small. As long as we have the most advanced technology and work on targeted solutions, it is not a problem. ”

"In the face of a powerful opponent, you must resolutely show your sword even if you know that you are invincible. Even if it falls, it will become a mountain, a ridge. Xie Kai said.

This sentence comes from his favorite military-themed drama "Bright Sword", the reason why Li Yunlong is loved by the Chinese people is because he dares to show his sword.

Knowing that the enemy is strong, knowing that he is invincible, he still shows his sword.

Deterrence is important for the national defense of any country.

All kinds of weapons and equipment can be used not only for attack, but also for defense.

If others don't know the performance of weapons and equipment, it's like a sharp sword that is always in the scabbard, and it still has a deterrent effect at the beginning, but when it comes to the back, it has no deterrent effect.

"Selling weapons that our troops are not equipped with, on the one hand, to obtain data for further improvement, and at the same time to obtain research funding for the further development of more advanced technologies for us. There is no need to compete with brother units for the already small development funds. Xie Kai saw that everyone in the military was deep in thought, savored his words, and waited for a while before continuing.

Zheng Yucheng was overjoyed in his heart, and said proudly, "Yes, we don't need funds, we just want this policy! We will seek our own sources of funds, cooperate in development, and earn foreign exchange for the country." Why not kill more than one stone?"

Internationally, the sale of weapons and equipment has always been the most profitable.

The military is too poor, and countless units are grabbing projects and funds, so it is better to find powerful buyers from the international community, which is more in line with the future development of the base.

Xie Kai told him that the base needed to sharpen its knives and slaughter the fat sheep sent to Pakistan like this.

"Who do you want to work with? Who will buy such weapons and equipment?" asked Li Mingshan.

"Pakistan!" Zheng Yucheng and Xie Kai said in unison.

Then the two looked at each other and smiled.

"Pakistan, they are poorer than us!" Li Mingshan said with a wry smile, he still thought that when the people of the 404 base would catch the line of the Middle Eastern tyrants.

"You ask him about this. After Xie Kai said that the tank was tailor-made for Pakistan, Zheng Yucheng paid attention to the information of the Pakistanis.

He got the news that Pakistan was poor.

The country is small, the industrial strength is poor, the technology is backward, and the economic strength is not good.

Although it has little relationship with the United States, it still relies on military assistance from the Americans.

Zheng Yucheng has been worried about what will happen if Pakistanis can't afford it for the past two days, according to Xie Kai's concept, the price of a tank will be at least about two million US dollars, which is equivalent to almost five million soft sister coins.

"Do you think Pakistan will be interested in this project?" asked Xie Kai with squinted eyes.

Xie Kai is just a child.

"Whether it's interested or not, I don't know. But I only know that if we don't think others will be interested, we don't seek cooperation, which is not in our development. Only with technological development can national defense be as stable as a rock. Xie Kai said. "As for the chief's concern that Pakistan has no money, there is no need to think about it at all. National defense is the top priority!"

"Moreover, the relationship between Pakistan and India, the territorial dispute between the two sides in Kashmir, has not been properly resolved. India received a lot of advanced equipment from the Soviet Union, and it was a greater threat to Pakistan...... "Xie Kai said.

The Indian threat is in the throat of Pakistanis.

The richest part of Kashmir was snatched by India in the Third Indo-Pakistani War, and Pakistanis were even more unhappy.

"Everyone knows the country's current difficulties, and we can understand them. Therefore, we don't ask our superiors for funding, we just need to give policies. If we don't even have a policy, how can we be self-reliant and solve the problems of the base?" Xie Kai sighed when he saw that Li Mingshan had not spoken.

looked at Zheng Yucheng and motioned for him to speak.

Now that I have said everything I can say, how to get a policy, what kind of policy I want, this has to be talked to Li Mingshan by Zheng Yucheng.

After all, this matter has little to do with a student like me.

"Lao Li, you can do this thing. The first machine department and the fifth machine department, even if the funds are tight, each gave 17 million funds, which is just a set of CNC systems that we have developed...... If we don't give policies, we have to give funds, don't we? Our 404 base is close to 30,000 cadres, workers and their families, as long as there is a policy, we are self-reliant, and we don't ask our superiors for ......funds."

Let's start with the first machine department and the fifth machine department each gave nearly 20 million yuan.

Li Mingshan couldn't refute this.

404 wants a policy, he can't do this thing.

In case they come up with some top-notch advanced equipment and sell it, it is not a good thing for national defense, and they certainly cannot agree to it.

"Aren't you still able to engage in civilian products?" After a long time, Li Mingshan said, "It's good to change an excavator into a tank." With the technology, how good it would be to modify the military and face the civilian market......"

"No funds! Before the CNC system, we did not pay wages for several months, and the follow-up research funds given by the first machine department and the fifth machine department must not be used indiscriminately, and there are military excavators...... "There is a lot of money, but the problem is that the project of the base needs a lot of funds, and there are still 20,000 or 30,000 people who need to be fed."

The matter of military excavators was not approved by the military, and there was no funding at all.

Whether it meets the requirements of the military is not clear.

The corners of Li Mingshan's mouth twitched a few times, and he couldn't cope with Zheng Yucheng's shameless answer.

"One project, where can we feed so many people? Not to mention that we are still rebuilding the 59 tank...... Zheng Yucheng said quietly. "The higher-level authorities have no funds to give, and we are not allowed to do our own funds, how can we do it?"

It is unreasonable not to give policies or funds.

"Chief, the 404 base is not suitable for large-scale civilian products. It's too remote and I don't know much about the market. We have made products with large market demand, but also because of confidentiality reasons, so that our users can not see our technical capabilities and production capacity and lose confidence. Xie Kai spoke again.

Zheng Yucheng's words are correct, but they are very uncomfortable.

If you don't do this, when the time comes, Li Mingshan and others will be dissatisfied, and they will not give funds or policies, what can they do?

There must be tough, and there can be no less crying and complaining about grievances.

"Once the market is better than our product, we are far away from the market, we can't make quick preparations, invest a lot of research funds, but can't get enough profits from the market, we have to develop new products......," Xie Kai said helplessly. "The technical capabilities in this are all equipped for the field of cutting-edge military science and technology research and development. Turning into civilian products, everything has to start from scratch. And for confidentiality reasons, it is necessary to relocate ......"