"The progress of bass engine research is indeed slow, and now our J-7 and J-8 are already lagging behind. Long Yaohua was silent for a while before he spoke. "The Air Force needs advanced third-generation engines. ”

"The F-14 fighter plane that the Iraqis were asked to get before was for nothing else, just for the avionics system and fire control system on it. Project 82, 50 aircraft, plus 5 backup systems, $550 million, so far, the progress is still slow...... If we had our own advanced fire control system, we would have no need to beg the Americans! We should work this!" Xie Kai didn't care about anyone's face now.

What is the ultimate fate of Project 82, he knows.

Perhaps the people of the military did not dare to be completely reassured either.

J-8II cooperated with the Americans in the avionics system, but in the end it was pitted by the United States, and $550 million was lost, this matter has become a foregone conclusion, Xie Kai can't stop it, and he can't stop it.

He must not let the progress of the Jian-10, which was already developed after hardships and lack of funds, even slower than that.

Xie Kai was originally going to cooperate with Factory 132, and when he was talking about the big press project before, he talked to Zheng Yucheng about this matter.

At that time, I didn't really have in-depth exchanges with the people of Factory 132 and 611.

never thought that Zheng Yucheng and the others would actually want to use the wreckage of the F-14 fighter to imitate this kind of fighter.

"Chief, what I shouldn't say is that we can successfully imitate it and achieve the performance of the F-14, and at the current level that the Air Force is so poor that it has no money to refuel, can we afford to use it?" Xie Kai's words were completely the last straw that broke the camel's back.

Before, they didn't think about the user.

Such fighters are indeed advanced, and the Chinese Air Force needs such advanced fighters to equip the troops.

No one thought about whether the Chinese Air Force, which currently lacks funds, could afford to use such a fighter after it was studied at a high cost.

"One of the biggest problems with the F-14 is that the maintenance cost is too high for even the U.S. Navy to afford! Iran now has F-14 fighter jets malfunctioning almost every take-off and landing, so everyone should know the ......situation," Xie Kai continued.

Anyway, they can use the technology of the F-14, but they must not completely copy the F-14 fighter and install the troops.

China's industrial base and technological level, even if it can be imitated, the maintenance cost will definitely be higher than that of the F-14 produced in the United States.

Look at the J-7, the cost of maintenance makes the Air Force reluctant to use it.

How many years have you been making it?

There are only about 100 domestic equipment.

"Xiao Xie, that's the world's most advanced third-generation fighter. Long Yaohua reminded Xie Kai, "The most advanced in our country is the J-8II, and there is no way to even deal with the Soviet MiG-25 and Tu-22M backfire bombers." ”

"Isn't the J-8II just to deal with this?" Xie Kai didn't let go anyway. "Of course, the base makes life decisions, and what tasks are assigned by the superiors have little to do with me. ”

Xie Kai's next sentence was completely shameless.

If it really had nothing to do with him, or Long Yaohua and the others didn't care about his emotions, they wouldn't have explained these things to him at all.

Even if the J-8II is made, it will not be able to deal with high-speed fighters and supersonic bombers such as the MiG-25 and Tu-22M Backfire. The Jian-Jiu who dealt with this kind of situation has already dismounted.

"Let's talk about the Iraqis for now, and we'll talk about that later. Seeing that there was no way to reach a conclusion for a while, it was difficult to convince Xie Kai, Zheng Yucheng also knew that Xie Kai had his own ideas on the fighter project, so he didn't want to argue now.

They wanted to engage in a fighter project, and as soon as they brought it up, Xie Kai was blocking it.

The problem of funding, in fact, they also know that there will be no problems at the beginning, and there will be problems in the later stage.

The military did not make a clear statement in this, which means that theirs will definitely contribute part of the funds.

I can't tell Xie Kaiming.

At least, he couldn't say it in front of Long Yaohua.

"The Iraqi F-14, now that it's been shipped, we're definitely going to have to get it. Including supporting various types of air-to-air missiles, we need them. Now we already have an air-to-air missile project team, and we're working on this...... "Xie Kai doesn't want to just move on to something else.

For his persistence, or ignorance of current affairs, Zheng Yucheng and others can't do anything.

"Do we keep all the missiles in our own hands?" Wang Guilin looked at Xie Kai.

The Iraqis sent at least three types of air-to-air missiles.

The AIM-7 Sparrow missile, the AIM-9 Sidewinder, the AIM-54 Immortal Bird, and the three air-to-air missiles are all well-known in the world, with different ranges and different technologies, and China has no technology.

Any kind of air-to-air missile is what China needs at the moment.

It's a good thing to be able to imitate it, or to integrate the technology.

404 is taken down by a unit, and there is not much ability to imitate it as soon as possible.

It is most appropriate to provide some research and development technology for other brother units.

"Yes, it must remain in our own hands. There are already a lot of domestic missile models. Xie Kai nodded and said.

Chinese air-to-air missiles, Xie Kai doesn't know how many models there are.

Anyway, he knows that there are absolutely a lot of these things in China.

The vast majority of air-to-air missiles are imitations.

Soviet, French, American, and even Israeli and Italian ......

Long Yaohua and the others looked at Xie Kai, and they had the heart to stop talking about this matter, and they couldn't even think about Xie Kai's emotions.

However, Zheng Yucheng and others had to think about it.

Once Xie Kai has emotions, it will be very difficult to make him contribute again.

"If you have any ideas, just say them. Long Yaohua asked Xie Kai, "If the opinion is reasonable, we will consider it." ”

Xie Kai looked at Zheng Yucheng, and Zheng Yucheng and the others all nodded.

"If we really want to engage in the fighter project, we can cooperate with the 132 factory, and the big press is ours, which is what they need; in terms of design, we can cooperate with the 611 Institute and intervene in the No. 10 project of the Air Force...... At the same time, judging from our current situation, we can assume the avionics system, fire control system, and even the power system of the engine......" Xie Kai is not without ideas about these things.

In the case of 404, all of them are engaged in a finished product, and all the forces of the entire base are added together, and they may not be able to complete a project.

It is most appropriate to cooperate with other units, especially promising ones, to accelerate the research and development of certain technologies.

The design of the J-10 by the 611 did not take much time, but it took too much time to build the prototype.

The manufacturing technology is not good, the power system is not there at all, the avionics system, the fire control system, has always been improving while testing flights.

It was not until several models were changed, almost completely replacing the imported AL-31 engine with the Taihang engine, that the avionics system could barely catch up with the international market, compared with the F16, the latest model of the third-generation fighter equipped with the air forces of most countries in the world, it is said that it is still a lot worse.

404 can be fully invested in this.

Whatever difficulties in the country are gnawed.

This is the meaning of the existence of 404, not to waste funds on projects that already exist in China by taking advantage of the particularity of 404.

"Power system? Many domestic units specialize in engines!" Zheng Yucheng looked at Xie Kai.

"Fire control system? In addition to having the fire control system of the tank, we still need a lot of work, and we are engaged in the fire control of fighters, which is not the same thing at all......" Bai Yanjun didn't understand, Xie Kai must know how difficult these technical projects he said.

Long Yaohua frowned and looked at Xie Kai.

If this is really the division of labor, it is really a good thing.

Although 404 is not professional, it has the best technical unit in China in electronic technology.

Tank fire control and fighter fire control are two different things, but there are some similarities.

The power system, with the working momentum of the 404, may really have a different effect, and it is not clear.

"Do you know that these projects are the most difficult in the whole project?" Long Yaohua asked Xie Kai, "The foundation of 404 is not very good. ”

"Chief, I know better than anyone else. Xie Kai nodded firmly.

"Then why do you still want your unit to engage in these core projects?" Long Yaohua directly pointed out Xie Kai's thoughts.

The projects Xie Kai said seem to be difficult, and they are all core projects.

It is also the most expensive part of the entire equipment.

Once they have mastered the core technology, this is ......

Of course, the profit is definitely the highest in these parts.

82 project, a set of avionics system is tens of millions of dollars, you can imagine how high the profit, although there are also some additional aerodynamic layout, power system improvements.

How much does the whole fighter cost?

"Because the profits of these core projects are high enough!" Xie Kai did not hide at all.

Long Yaohua looked at Xie Kai with a serious face, and didn't know how to answer him for a while.

The core project is highly profitable!

"Actually, we are not worried about other units to engage in these projects, their progress is too slow. Xie Kai grinned, revealing his white teeth, "Chief, if we want to do it, we must mobilize the best talents, and at the same time, we also have far more adequate funds than our brother units." ”

The funding of 404 does not require a penny of financial allocation from the higher departments, and it will not compete with anyone for the military's small amount of funds.

"This is also the meaning of our 404 existence. Xie Kai continued to explain.

Long Yaohua really didn't know how to refute his words.

Zheng Yucheng and others were happy in their hearts, but they couldn't express their attitude.

That's what they think, but they can't say that, or their consciousness is too low.

"In this way, we keep the air-to-air missile project for ourselves, and we are only responsible for the avionics system, fire control system and power system?" Wang Guilin asked Xie Kai.

This is already several projects.

However, it is also much less economical than their family to engage in a full set of fighter projects, and the management is much less difficult.

"We, 404, should be engaged in those challenging projects! We must get the core technology! What are we doing if there is no challenging work?" Xie Kai said proudly. "Because we're 404!"