"What is the attitude of the Pakistani side? They mentioned it once before, and then there has been no movement. After Wang Guilin personally made tea for Xiong Hongyuan and the others, he asked Xie Kai.

Everyone looked towards Xie Kai.

Although the base has a lot of money now, so far, there are also a lot of projects.

The fighter project has never been able to get a new source.

"Pakistan is really more urgent, and the Americans not only have a high price for the F-16, but also have big problems with delivery. India is importing more and more MiG-29s from the USSR, and is even talking about the introduction of production lines. Xie Kai said.

Zheng Yucheng couldn't see him hanging people's appetite the most, "Don't fix those useless things, let's talk about the point." Waste of time!"

Zheng Yucheng's attitude made Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan even more pleasantly surprised.

Sun Daoqian's old guy didn't fool people, he told them the truth, and it was worth dating.

If Xie Kai didn't have such a good relationship with the management committee, they would be in trouble.

"Pakistan wants a fighter production line, but it doesn't look down on our J-7, and it doesn't look down on the J-8, if these two fighters will sell the production line in China......," Xie Kai said disdainfully, "They are worried that we can't provide fighters that meet their needs." ”

"Isn't it a new project?" Xiong Hongyuan finally found an opportunity to interject.

"It's a new project, and we can't build a foundation. The J-8II project is in cooperation with the United States, and it is not known when it will be successful. They will definitely not be able to get it, after all, we have only 50 aircraft modified in China. MiG-25 and MiG-29, we have no fighters in our country to defend. Not to mention the Tu-22M Backfire bomber. Director Xiong, to say something you don't like to hear, a fighter like the J-7, if you don't carefully and drastically design and modify it, and don't solve the quality problem, no one really wants it. Xie Kai's words made Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan both embarrassed.

The production quality problem of the J-7 has indeed not been effectively solved.

"The Soviets also have a heavy fighter, the Su-27, which has begun to equip the troops, and the international community does not know this news......," Xie Kai said, "I heard that the Indians are also seeking to introduce such fighters." ”

Huo Haiyuan wanted to ask Xie Kai how he knew.

It is not publicly available internationally, how did he find out?

Seeing Zheng Yucheng and the others, they didn't say anything, and they didn't ask.

"Tell the point, the point! You kid has itchy skin? "Zheng Yucheng is impatient.

"The point is, they want to work together, but they're worried that our technology is too poor to provide what they are happy with. The initial idea was for us to design the drawings first, and then they would argue and analyze them, and then decide whether to invest or not. Xie Kai said.

"Isn't that! Zheng Yucheng looked disdainful.

Xiong Hongyuan and others also began to worry.

"So, this kind of cooperation plan will definitely not work. After I patiently persuaded them, they felt that my proposal was more feasible. Xie Kai said shamelessly.

Even Bai Yanjun couldn't stand it, "You kid don't put a light on your face, after talking so much, what kind of dry goods are there? Why is it like that guy in the gourd, it's so wet all day long, we don't write about our business, it seems like we are bragging all day long......"

"The gourd is shameless. I'm a lot more embarrassed than he is. Xie Kai looked disdainful, "Hulu provided me with a plan, which is to use the J-7 as the basis, use the avionics system and fire control system of the F-14 we obtained in the hands of the Iraqis to upgrade, and build an aircraft that can be used to match fighters like F-16 with high and low levels." Of course, the performance must be as close as possible to the third-generation fighter, and the price must maintain the quality of the second-generation fighter. ”

"This can't be! The one who offered this plan is just nonsense. Close to the performance of the third-generation fighter, the price of the second-generation fighter, this is not a loss?" Xiong Hongyuan didn't know who the gourd in Xie Kai's mouth was.

Immediately refuted.

That bastard definitely doesn't understand the situation, isn't this a cheater?

Xie Kai glanced at him and sighed, "That goods can't be offended, otherwise, you will die in the next moment, and you won't be able to receive the lunch." ”

"Alright, let's get down to business. Wang Guilin was helpless, the more he said, the more he said, "How are you going to solve it?"

"It's up to them. They can't solve it, and our contract is probably hopeless. Xie Kai pointed at Xiong Hongyuan and said to Huo Haiyuan, "Mr. Huo, what do you think of this plan?"

Huo Haiyuan didn't expect Xie Kai to ask himself.

In the beginning, they didn't know much about the whole project either.

Now Xie Kai asked him where he was prepared.

"What do they want this fighter for? The avionics system and fire control system are very difficult for us. Huo Haiyuan said.

"Defense. It has outstanding medium-low altitude and high-subsonic maneuver combat capabilities, better interception and ground attack capabilities, larger range, air retention time and combat radius, excellent short-range take-off and landing characteristics and strong weapon loading capabilities...... "Xie Kai said about the characteristics of the Thunder.

The Thunder Dragon fighter, if the performance indicators are high according to the final design from the beginning, the appearance time of the J-10 will not only be advanced, but even greater performance improvement.

"There's no specific data on that. Xiong Hongyuan didn't understand how Xie Kai persuaded the Pakistanis with this kind of rhetoric.

Zheng Yucheng and they are also aware of this, and there are no specific performance indicators at all.

To develop R&D, once the project is done, there will be too much nonsense in it.

"Therefore, the three parties have to negotiate and discuss together, and choose the lowest cost and the most reasonable technical performance indicators. At the same time, I assured them that the R&D expenditure would not exceed $500 million. Xie Kai said.

"What the hell? $500 million, so much?"

"What? $500 million for such a new fighter?"

Obviously, the base management committee and Rong Fei's people exclaimed that they had different priorities.

Zheng Yucheng and others feel that 500 million US dollars is already a very large amount of money. So far, no project has such a large investment in the base, which is more than a billion soft sister coins.

Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan felt that it was impossible.

It is not at all possible to spend $500 million to develop a fighter whose performance is infinitely close to that of a third-generation fighter.

Although the cost of developing a fighter in China is much cheaper than that of any country in the world, this price is hardly very likely.

"Yes, $500 million. Two, though I know you think it's a bit fanciful that we don't know much about the fighter development program. But I think $500 million is completely sufficient. Xie Kai said.

The research and development funds for the Thunder fighter were only $450 million.

It was the nineties of the twentieth century, when the dollar had already depreciated a lot, and its purchasing power had fallen a lot.

"It's not possible. Although he didn't admit that he thought that Xie Kai was a child who didn't understand it at all, and he was talking nonsense here, Huo Haiyuan was still unwilling to give up.

"You 132 factories and 611 factories don't need to contribute, so you naturally think that the more money, the better. Comrade, we are still in an era of hard struggle, and we must tighten our belts to get by. It's better to have a project than not to have a project. Zheng Yucheng felt that 500 million US dollars was enough.

That's a lot of money.

"But it's really hard for some strong people. From design to flight test, there are also ......avionics systems, fire control systems, etc. "Such a huge fighter project, from materials to finished products, there are too many studies to be studied."

$500 million, not enough.

China only spent 550 million US dollars on 50 J-8II, plus five backup systems.

What they are going to do now is even better than the J-8II in some performance.

"Actually, this funding, as long as it is strictly controlled, is not too much of a problem. Based on the existing technology of the J-7, in this way, the cost will be significantly reduced. You can even use some of the demonstration techniques of the No. 10 project that you have undertaken to use in this. "J-10 should have started to set up the project.

The Thunder fighter can use some technology to demonstrate first, just like they did with tanks.

With one cost, develop two sets of technologies, so that the cost is lower.

Xiong Hongyuan looked at Xie Kai with some horror.

Project No. 10 can be said to be a top-secret project, and even in their unit, there are very few people who know about this project.

How did Xie Kai know?

Looking at the frightened eyes of the two, Xie Kai smiled mysteriously, "Don't ask me how I know about Project No. 10, it won't be you who leaked the secret anyway." ”

It's not Rong Fei's person who leaked the secret, then, Xie Kai can know this, obviously it comes from above.

"Our 359 tank project is similar to the current fighter project. Many technologies are used to demonstrate the technology of the new generation of domestic tanks, based on the technology of the 359 tank, and more advanced technologies are developed for domestic use. The new fighter project, like the one, is not used domestically and is only sold for export. Wang Guilin said to the two.

The two clearly didn't believe their words.

Wang Guilin's words reminded Xie Kai of his thoughts in China when the Thunder Dragon Fighter was established.

The most important thing to think about should be Rong Fei.

I simply took out that reason to fool them today.

"At present, in the world, the main fighters of many countries are old supersonic light fighters, such as MiG-21, J-7, Qiang-5 or Mirage-3, Mirage-5, etc. The service life of these fighters will soon come to an end. The West can replace these fighters with new types of fighters, all the problem is that it is expensive, and the main problem for these users is in terms of price......"

Knowing that the situation of Xiaolong's exports will not be as optimistic as imagined, Xie Kai is also clear.

Changing the shortcomings of the Thunder fighter, this fighter will have a very strong competitiveness in the world.

"Specializing in the development of an export fighter?" Xiong Hongyuan and Huo Haiyuan asked with some excitement.

At present, the domestic J-7 and J-8 are not even equipped with a few aircraft, and a small amount is produced every year to ensure that the production line is not abandoned, and further technical modification of the fighter is carried out to improve performance.

The development of fighters for export is far more promising than the development of fighters for domestic use.