362 Domestic Taikeng, seeking American engines?
"Without solving the engine problem, the fighter project will not be possible. Pakistan will not participate, you should know that. Xie Kai continued, "The United States and European countries can contact first, but you can imagine what the final answer will be. ”
The two were silent.
What Xie Kai said can be said to be relatively comprehensive.
"You let us think about it. In the afternoon, Rong Fei's people will also participate in the negotiations, and as for Wang Hao, we also need to discuss. Zheng Yucheng did not directly reject Xie Kai's proposal, but said that it needed to be considered.
Xie Kai nodded, not caring too much about Zheng Yucheng's attitude.
Wang Hao had been waiting for Xie Kai outside, knowing that he must be talking about something related to him, and he had always been apprehensive in his heart.
Seeing Xie Kai coming over, he looked at Xie Kai, but he didn't know what to say.
"Let's go, let's see more details, we'll have to go on in the afternoon." Xie Kai said calmly to Wang Hao.
"They didn't scold you, and then let me not participate?" Wang Hao was surprised.
Zheng Yucheng and the others' attitude towards him, he can clearly see it.
"No, talk about anything else. You're not fully informed right now, be involved in the whole process, listen more, watch more, talk less. Xie Kai comforted Wang Hao, "Of course, the academic performance can't be bad, don't have a college diploma in the future, it's not easy to mix." ”
Wang Hao looked at Xie Kai and couldn't believe it for a while.
Is this still the Xie Kai he knows?
"That way, you won't have time to fight Mozzi's idea. Although I know that you don't like her, it's just to prove that you're better than me, and you did a bad thing!" Xie Kai knew that Wang Hao wanted face and understood his inner thoughts.
They have already taken the bait, and they must not let him escape.
"I'm better than you! If I had a chance like you, I'd do a better job than you! As for Moqi, who likes her? Except for her face, it's okay, like a bamboo pole, the wind can blow it away, you have to have a chest or not, you have to have an ass without an ass...... Wang Hao said disdainfully.
Xie Kai looked at him and glanced at his lips and left directly.
Wang Hao, who was enraged by Xie Kai's contemptuous attitude, followed, "I will prove it." ”
"What's wrong now? We've become rats drilling bellows, and we're angry at both ends. After Xie Kai left, Wang Guilin looked at Zheng Yucheng, he couldn't make up his mind, "But what he said is right." We used to be assigned tasks from our superiors, but now we have to seek orders on our own. ”
"Are you inclined to his opinion?" Zheng Yucheng did not say his attitude.
"Perhaps, let him try. Isn't he still young now?" Wang Guilin said, "This afternoon, the engine problem will be more obvious. ”
"Let's meet with Lao Bai and Lao Qi and discuss it at noon. Zheng Yucheng still did not say anything.
Pakistanis are also struggling with the project's engines.
The imitation avionics system is simple and does not require the powerful and complete avionics system of the F-14 avionics system, which is not a problem for China, which has strong imitation capabilities.
The engine is the problem.
Materials, design experience, manufacturing process, etc., China does not have much experience.
Otherwise, by now, it is time for the J-7 to come out.
"In the afternoon, the people from the 611 and 132 factories will participate in the discussion and see what they have to say. "It's all here, and leaving now won't solve the problem.
Pakistan still hopes that the Chinese unit can solve these problems.
In the afternoon, at the meeting, the technicians of the 611 and 132 factories answered the various questions raised by the Pakistani side one by one.
All the answers were satisfactory to the Pakistani side, except for the engine.
The designers of the 611 Institute could not answer this question, and even the 132 factory could not.
They don't do the engine, especially the imitation of the bass engine, which is not their responsibility.
"If you can't come up with an engine solution, I think it's going to be very difficult for us to come to an agreement on this project. Aledev's words were serious, "although the conditions you put forward make it impossible for us to refuse. ”
The Chinese side proposed that if the two sides reach a project cooperation, Pakistani technicians can participate in all the work throughout the design process and learn design and manufacturing technology from China; after the development is completed and finalized, except for the first batch of fighters manufactured by the Chinese side, the rest of the fighters will be assembled by Pakistan's domestic fighter production line, except for the core components produced in China.
In the next stage, the relevant parts will be gradually localized in Pakistan.
With such excellent conditions, Pakistan is naturally tempted.
If the engine problem is not solved, it is useless.
"Ask for help from your superiors and seek support from Grumman...... Xie Kai proposed a solution when Zheng Yucheng and others were anxious.
"Didn't you say you were going to seek the Soviet Union?" Zheng Yucheng was puzzled.
"Prepare with both hands, China has already cooperated with Grumman, so that the superiors will help build bridges on the front line. Xie Kai didn't bother to explain.
The honeymoon period with the United States is not a few years away.
At the same time, it was necessary to contact the Soviet side and let the Soviet engine be used as a backup plan.
"Will they agree?"
"If you don't agree, you can't solve the problem. Pakistanis are reluctant to sign a memorandum of cooperation. Xie Kai said.
It's all a helpless choice.
Don't expect to have the same R&D and design capabilities and production capacity as the Soviet Union and the United States, at least, it should also have the strength of France, right?
It is a pity that the development time of China's industry is too short.
The United States and the Soviet Union, so far, the new models of domestic mainstream fighters have basically been turbofanized, and China has not yet entered the field of turbofans.
Things have reached such a point that the two sides can no longer talk about it.
However, in order not to make a trip in vain, the Pakistani delegation proposed to visit China's domestic engine R&D and manufacturing units and fighter aircraft production units. Even, they want to take a look at the Yunshi project.
This idea coincides with the base, so if you give up, it will definitely not work.
The base applied to the superiors, and after approval, Qi Zhiyuan accompanied the Pakistanis to visit, and Wang Hao also followed the visiting group.
"Regardless of whether Pakistanis are involved or not, we should start this project first, and the preliminary design demonstration work can be carried out. Xie Kai did not go out, but reminded Zheng Yucheng and the others.
His proposal was in Zheng Yucheng's arms, and the old guy had long wanted to reach out to the fighter project.
Naturally, 611 will not dislike it, as long as the project is carried out, the upfront funds of 404 will be obtained by their unit.
After arranging all this, Zheng Yucheng left the base and began to look for a solution to the engine project.
"Do you want to engage in fighter projects again?" Long Yaohua looked at Zheng Yucheng in front of him, his brows furrowed slightly, "Missiles, tanks, armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery, large aircraft, and now you want to stretch your hand into the fighter field, why don't you go to the sky?"
"Leader, we are engaged in fighter planes just for the sake of heaven. Zheng Yucheng Tian said shamelessly.
For a while, Long Yaohua was so angry that he didn't know how to answer.
"I can't help with this, anyway, you have your own project, you can do it yourself. He didn't want to pay attention to Zheng Yucheng.
The original right to set up the project independently, that was still the policy he helped to achieve.
If he had known that 404 would have done so many projects at that time, Long Yaohua would definitely not have helped to convince other people.
"Leader, it's not like you can't solve the engine problem. You also know the progress of the domestic turbofan-9 engine, and if there is an engine, we will not worry. Zheng Yucheng said helplessly, "The domestic engine is not angry." The fighter project we are engaged in is mainly aimed at the foreign market, and foreign ......"
In order to convince Long Yaohua, Zheng Yucheng used Xie Kai to persuade them, and at the same time persuaded the Pakistanis.
Market prospects!
"Are you positioned in the international market?" Long Yaohua really didn't expect that all the projects of 404 are now preparing to enter the international market.
"Aiming at the domestic market, the Air Force is so poor that it can afford it?" Zheng Yucheng's face was full of disdain, "The military orders are getting fewer and fewer, that little money, so many units are staring at ......"
"Do you have upfront development funding?"
"In cooperation with Pakistan, the total investment amount is expected to be 500 million US dollars, and both sides will bear half of it. A while ago, the deputy chief of staff of the Pakistan Air Force came over for this matter. I am very interested in the project, and there is no problem with the rest, but the engine cannot be solved in China...... Zheng Yucheng said sincerely, "Isn't China cooperating with Grumman to upgrade the J-8?
"You only want to import engines?" asked Long Yaohua.
"yes, don't let them get involved. One more collaborator, one more profit. Zheng Yucheng said without hesitation.
"Is the domestic technology feasible?"
Seeing Long Yaohua asking, Zheng Yucheng directly took out the project plan from the briefcase he carried with him and handed it to Long Yaohua.
Long Yaohua began to look at it seriously, and Zheng Yucheng didn't urge, just waited on the side.
"Can these performance indicators be achieved with the current domestic technology?" After a long time, Long Yaohua looked up from the document and asked Zheng Yucheng.
"After discussion and communication with the comrades of 611 and 132, it is all achievable, except for the power system. These technical performance indicators are an improvement of the J-7 indicators, reducing some of the indicators of the original J-9 project, and evaluating the domestic technical level, it does not take too long for public relations to reach the level......," Zheng Yucheng explained.
If the engine is imported from abroad, it is not a good thing for the domestic aero engine R&D and manufacturing. Long Yaohua hopes that Zheng Yucheng can consider the situation of domestic aero engines, "If you have your financial support, the research and development process of domestic engines will be accelerated a lot." ”
"We can wait, Pakistanis can't. "There is no room for negotiation in this matter," Leader, I know what you think. It's not that we don't care about the overall situation and don't think about the future of our brother units, we first have to solve the problem of eating in our own units, right?"