Wide and narrow alleys, "Longmen Array" teahouse.

This teahouse was opened by Zheng Xuehong, and the old teahouse in Rongping City really had no business, and he had closed it before the Spring Festival.

Wu Xiaobo carried a canvas satchel and a camera around his neck, and finally found this broken place by asking all the way. He just interviewed TCL CEO Li Dongsheng for two whole days on the side of Qiandao Lake, during which Li Dongsheng turned off his mobile phone throughout the interview, and the two big men got together to chat nonsense.

Today's TCL has fallen into a quagmire, the computer business has been expelled from the mainstream market, and the mobile phone business has lost its old capital. Although the TV business has good sales, its profit margins are miserable, and it is no different from losing money and making money.

It is precisely because of this that Li Dongsheng had two days of spare time to be interviewed, and by the way, he discussed the development of enterprises with Wu Xiaobo.

After the interview with Li Dongsheng, Wu Xiaobo suddenly received a text message that Song Weiyang had half a month to be interviewed in Rongcheng at any time. This opportunity is very rare, Wu Xiaobo flew over overnight, and he has been waiting for this interview for more than a year.

Walking into the Longmenzhen Teahouse, Wu Xiaobo found that there were more than ten guests in total. Four of them were actually white Western faces, sitting there drinking tea and listening to Sichuan opera, and it seemed that they had come to Kuanzhai Alley for tourism.

Song Weiyang sat on a seat closer to the stage, half-lying on a bamboo chair with Erlang's legs crossed, and holding a bowl of gaiwan tea in his hand. On his left hand sat Chen Tao, who did not wear a confinement hat, but wore a sun hat and drank his own yogurt. Zheng Xuehong is fatter than before, and it is difficult for a bamboo chair to accommodate its tonnage, and every time she moves her buttocks, the bamboo chair squeaks.

"Mr. Song, Miss Chen, Mr. Zheng!" Wu Xiaobo walked over to greet him.

Song Weiyang smiled: "Senior Wu, please take a seat!"

Zheng Xuehong nodded to Wu Xiaobo, and beckoned to the tea man: "Another bowl of tea." ”

"I'll go first, and you can talk slowly. Chen Tao got up and said that she couldn't come out for too long and had to rush back to feed the child.

As soon as Wu Xiaobo sat down, he saw a pair of young men and girls wearing kung fu costumes, each carrying a copper Changliu pot. The spout is two feet long, which is far more than one foot and five inches in the Rongcheng teahouse, and belongs to the Changliu pot system in eastern and southeastern Sichuan.

Now it's all eyeball economy, and the longer the spout is, of course, the better, and whether or not to abide by local traditions is secondary.

The boys and girls began to dance, a bit like opera, and a bit like martial arts routines, while pouring tea in various fancy styles, they also shouted the names of moves such as "Mountains and Flowing Water" and "Su Qin's Back Sword".

The four white tourists in the teahouse immediately cast their eyes on it, obviously this thing was more attractive than the opera on stage.

"This way of pouring tea is kind of interesting. Wu Xiaobo said with a smile.

Zheng Xuehong said: "The people who come here to drink tea are tourists from other places, and there must be something to attract them. The attraction of Sichuan opera is not strong, and the tea pouring performance of the long-spouted pot is the living sign of this teahouse. ”

"Can you make money?" Wu Xiaobo looked around, "There don't seem to be many guests here. ”

Zheng Xuehong smiled: "It's much better now." When it first opened, there were few tourists in the whole alley, and only one or two people came in for tea every day. Now there are more than 100 tea customers on holidays a single day, and there are many foreigners, and they can break even if they stick to it. ”

Wu Xiaobo said: "Mr. Zheng chose to retire bravely and resign from all his duties in Xifeng, and now his life is really chic. ”

"The scale of Xifeng Group is getting bigger and bigger, it is beyond my ability, and it is a mess to continue to stay in the company, so it is better to retire and find something else to do," Zheng Xuehong stood up and said with a smile, "You guys talk, I won't bother, I will pay for today's tea." ”

"Mr. Zheng go slowly!" Wu Xiaobo got up to see him off.

Song Weiyang listened to Sichuan Opera and sipped tea, and waited for Wu Xiaobo to sit back in the chair before asking, "What are you talking about?"

Wu Xiaobo explained: "That's right. From 1978 to the present, it has been almost 30 years since China's reform and opening up, and I plan to publish a book in 2008, "Thirty Years of Turbulence", to record the great changes in Chinese society in the past 30 years. I have interviewed dozens of successful and failed entrepreneurs about their entrepreneurial and struggle histories, and their mental journeys over the years. You are the richest man in China, the chairman of Xifeng and Shenzhou, and you write a book about the 30 years of reform and opening up, and it is impossible to bypass you, a big entrepreneur. ”

"Sounds like a very interesting book. Song Weiyang said with a smile.

Wu Xiaobo took out a shorthand book and a voice recorder: "There is a lot of information about you in the society, which is true and false, and I hope to know more about the real thing." ”

Song Weiyang nodded and said, "Yes, you can ask." ”

The two chatted from Song Weiyang's childhood to Song Weiyang's visit to the Special Economic Zone.

"In other words, Mr. Zheng and Miss Chen, did you really meet on the train?" Wu Xiaobo said with interest.

Song Weiyang said: "Yes. ”

Wu Xiaobo asked: "Dr. Ma and the private development club, are they also like the rumors in the rivers and lakes?"

Song Weiyang said: "The 'private development association' run by China Merchants Bureau, the association's articles of association are copied from me, in Chinese and English, and not a single punctuation mark has changed. ”

"Do you think it's a fraud?" Wu Xiaobo asked.

"Win-win, each taking what he needs. Song Weiyang said.

Wu Xiaobo asked: "Where did your business management knowledge come from?"

Song Weiyang made up half-truths and half-truths: "Some of them come from hearing and seeing, and some of them are read in books. In my father's study, there are a lot of books on business management, many of which are traditional Chinese versions bought from Hong Kong City. ”

"By reading books and self-study, you can come up with a set of business management models that will scare the business administration professors of Sun Yat-sen University," Wu Xiaobo said in amazement, "This should be an innate talent, right? Maybe you are a business genius yourself." ”

Song Weiyang said: "Maybe." ”

Wu Xiaobo asked: "Can you talk about the development of Xifeng and Shenzhou Technology?"

Song Weiyang said: "There is no need to repeat this, I will ask someone to give you a complete set of materials." ”

Wu Xiaobo said: "I interviewed Zhang Chaoyang, Ding Ming and Ding Sanshi last year, and they all mentioned you in unison. You were a food and beverage entrepreneur back then, and Shenzhou Technology was also in the start-up, why did you suddenly choose to invest in the Internet?"

"It's not unexpected," Song Weiyang said with a smile, "I'm an old netizen, and I have the first Chinese screen name in China." Before Ding Sanshi quit his job to start a business, I was already chatting with him online. ”

"By far the most profitable investment you've made is in Google search," Wu said. If you didn't have Google, you might still be the richest man in China, but you would never be in the top 10 of the world's richest people. When you invested in Google, did you ever think you could make that much money?"

"I thought of it. Song Weiyang generously admitted.

"You thought of it from the beginning?" Wu Xiaobo said in surprise.

Song Weiyang said: "Google, Sogou, and now Baidu, their PPC advertising model was proposed when I invested in Google. I've always believed that the future of the Internet is interactive, not the traditional model represented by Yahoo. Internet interaction is inseparable from search engines, which are the equivalent of computer systems. As long as you do a good job of search engine, you can become the Microsoft of the Internet industry. ”

From Google to Sohu, to Kingsoft, Joy.com, Alibaba, and finally to Shenzhou Technology's recent employee benefits reform.

Song Weiyang suddenly said: "I'm curious, you have interviewed so many Internet companies, why haven't you interviewed Tencent?"

Wu Xiaobo said: "Tencent has nothing to interview, it is an ordinary company that operates wireless value-added services and online games. Neither in terms of scale nor in terms of content, there is nothing that stands out. ”

"Where's QQ?" said Song Weiyang.

Wu Xiaobo said: "QQ is just an online chat tool, there are many similar chat tools, Sina, NetEase now have similar products. From the perspective of influence, QQ is far inferior to Microsoft's MSN, and it is only a matter of time before MSN steals the market. ”

"Okay. Song Weiyang had nothing to say.

The book "Thirty Years of Turbulence" has mentioned many Internet companies in China, but Tencent and Xiaoma have not bubbled.

The reason is very simple, Wu Xiaobo before 2008 didn't take Tencent seriously at all.

Wu Xiaobo asked, "Mr. Song is very optimistic about Tencent's future?"

Song Weiyang smiled mysteriously: "Maybe it won't take ten years, but after five years, you won't ask this kind of question again." ”

"Why?" Wu Xiaobo asked.

"I don't want to explain, I'll know later. Song Weiyang said.

"Okay," Wu Xiaobo said, "there are always people who compare Shenzhou with Lenovo, and there is also a saying in society that 'South Shenzhou, North Lenovo'." What is your evaluation of Lenovo and what are your expectations for the development of China?"

Song Weiyang raised his eyebrows and smiled: "Lenovo is a computer assembly company. ”

"Computer assembly company?" Wu Xiaobo laughed.

Song Weiyang said: "There are only so many parts of the computer. CPU, motherboard, hard disk, graphics card, power supply, chassis, mouse, keyboard, monitor, you will learn it as soon as you have a normal brain, and it is impossible to make a mistake in assembly, because you can't plug in the interface if you install it wrong. Today's Lenovo computers, only part of the chassis are designed by themselves. ”

Wu Xiaobo said: "What about Shenzhou Computer?"

Song Weiyang said: "The motherboard and hard disk of Shenzhou Computer have long been autonomous. Moreover, we are also cooperating with BYD to develop power supplies and BOE to develop displays to further achieve autonomy. ”

Wu Xiaobo said: "Since Shenzhou Technology is not listed, the outside world has always been very interested in its asset size. ”

Song Weiyang said: "I don't have the convenience to say more about the specific data. However, the total assets of Shenzhou Technology have surpassed Lenovo as early as three years ago. And our financial position is very healthy, the debt ratio has been controlled between 30% and 35%, and all projects are steadily moving towards the goal. ”

Wu Xiaobo said: "With Shenzhou Technology's ability to borrow money, the debt ratio is less than 35%, which seems too conservative. ”

"From another point of view, Shenzhou Technology has a strong ability to resist risks. Song Weiyang said with a smile.

Wu Xiaobo said: "Now Shenzhou Technology has launched many products, which can be described as blossoming across the board. What is your favorite business?"

"Cell phone. Song Weiyang said.

"Isn't it a computer?" Wu Xiaobo was a little surprised.

Song Weiyang said: "You will know next year. ”

Wu Xiaobo asked: "Is it a 3G mobile phone?"

Song Weiyang said with a smile: "It is an epoch-making sci-fi mobile phone, once this kind of mobile phone comes out, all the existing models of Nokia and Motorola will be eliminated." ”

Wu Xiaobo was dumbfounded and speechless for a long time, he felt that Song Weiyang had bragged too much.

Knock out existing Nokia and Motorola models?

Who will believe it!

Nokia is God in the field of mobile phones, and people at this time are very convinced that Nokia cannot be surpassed in the short term, and this period must be at least more than 20 years.

Wu Xiaobo's interview is not only used to write a book, but he also has to rush a column to come out, and it is too normal to use multiple drafts.

A few days later, Wu Xiaobo's column was published, and it was changed to an incendiary headline by the editor: "Song Weiyang: Shenzhou Mobile Phone Will Eliminate Nokia by Next Year at the Latest."