When Paul III heard this, he asked in confusion: "What is the matter? I don't know the origin of the controversy, didn't the Creator create all things for the sake of the spirit of all things, for the people to govern, and then to glorify the Creator?

As a highly talented student at a regular university, or at the graduate level, Baili Liangliu certainly knows the general answer to this question, but the specific things are not very clear.

McKee knew a little more, especially in the church, which used to be very intense, even to the point of life and death, but it was all a conflict of views on religious beliefs.

Therefore, I am not sure to answer the questions of Confucius and Paul III.

Baili Liangliu sensitively felt that this matter was not a trivial matter, thought about it for a while, and decided to find reinforcements, so let Wenren Bogu and Wenren Tongjin come over, this brother and son are perfectly matched, it should be an answer.

The two of them came over together, listened to the introduction of this issue, and heard that people were the first to speak today.

There have been two diametrically opposed views on this issue in history, one is heliocentrism and the other is geocentrism.

Geocentrism is to insist that the earth is the center of the universe, and geocentrism insists that the earth is the center of the universe.

This term, heliocentrism, is equivalent to "geokinetic theory", and geocentric theory is equivalent to "diurnal kinetic theory".

The movement here is relative to the static, if it is the theory of earth motion, it is to adhere to the theory of day static, and the movement revolves around the static.

On the other hand, if we talk about solar motion, the earth is stationary, and the sun revolves around the earth.

The representative of the heliocentric theory is a Polish astronomer, whose name is Nicolaus Copernicus, and it is generally said that heliocentrism was completed by him, in fact, in the West more than 300 BC Aristarchus and Heraclitus have already mentioned that the sun is the center of the universe, and the earth moves around the sun.

However, the idea that the solid earth is in motion was very difficult to accept in ancient times, when the lack of sufficient cosmic observations and the human-centered mindset led them to mistakenly believe that the earth was the center of the universe.

Moreover, Ptolemy's geocentric system can be well consistent with the observational data of the time, so the geocentric theory was widely accepted by the public and considered part of the truth by the Holy See at that time.

But since then, heliocentrism has still received little attention, and its supporters are even more scarce. The most famous supporter of this is Giordano Bruno.

Bruno was associated with heresy throughout his life, and was eventually burned to death in Campo de' Fiori by the Inquisition.

He supported Copernicus's heliocentric theory and developed the "theory of the infinity of the universe", which made him a figure on the cusp of his time, so that he is often regarded as a pioneer of the rise of modern science and a martyr who defended and dedicated his life to the truth of science.

But the actual reason was not that he supported heliocentrism, but that his pantheism, polytheism, and other religious ideas that irritated religion, which were not allowed at that time.

In fact, it was not until 1609, when Galileo Galilei used an astronomical telescope to discover new astronomical phenomena that were unfavorable to the old Aristotelian cosmology and Ptolemaic system, which in turn could support heliocentrism.

These astronomical phenomena mainly refer to: the craters of the moon are not as perfect as the ancient Greeks imagined, the existence of sunspots in the sun, so that the celestial or "lunar boundary" is not constant, the discovery of the Ganymede system directly shows that the earth is not the only center, and the discovery of the complete phase transition of Venus also exposes the errors of the Ptolemaic system.

However, since neither the data obtained by Copernicus's heliocentric theory nor the data of the Ptolemaic system coincided with the observational data, the heliocentric theory was still not advantageous at this time. It was not until Kepler corrected the heliocentric theory with an elliptical orbit instead of a circular orbit that the heliocentric theory won a real victory in the geocentric competition.

To put it simply, the "geocentric theory" is to take the earth as the center of the universe, and the "heliocentric theory" is to take the sun as the center of the universe.

After the introduction, Wen Rentongjin concluded: "At present, these two views on the universe are described from the perspective of astrophysics, and in the scientific community and the public opinion, it can be said that heliocentrism has been universally accepted, and geocentrism has been completely abandoned; this is the status quo, but today we see the claim of the creator and his work, how to understand and look at this problem, I think we need to rethink." ”

Wenren Bogu said: "In general, I agree with the introduction of the younger brother, but I have some different views from the perspective of religious controversy rather than scientific research, and I want to talk to you about it to see if there is any reference value, especially for the proposal of the younger brother just now, whether it is worth re-discussing these existing views and views that seem to have been determined." ”

Baili Liangliu and everyone nodded their heads, waiting for him to speak.

Wenren Bogu pondered for a moment before he said slowly: "In my opinion, this controversy is not about who is the center in physics or in terms of cosmology, but what is the purpose of the Creator's creation, that is to say, what is the focus of the Creator's creation and arrangement; For example, it is true that the sun can be regarded as the center and the object to be surrounded, and thus the heliocentric theory can be regarded as the correct answer, but in the universe, there are many planets larger than the sun, and there are also galaxies, so is it possible to change the heliocentric theory to the galactic center theory? Even if it becomes the galactic center theory, there will be no greater system in the future? The universe is infinite, and even today, who can clearly say where its boundaries are? If we don't know, how can we determine where the center is? So, if we take physics as the standard, this statement is relatively reasonable, not an absolute answer, so I think that focusing on the physical center is itself a wrong direction, and it cannot answer the question correctly. ”

Paul III said, "Listen to you, are the geocentric and heliocentric theories wrong?"

Wenren Bogu said categorically: "You are right, both are wrong, because they are both in the wrong direction." ”

Baili Liangliu asked, "Since both are wrong, according to you, what should be the center?"

McCor also asked, "This is interesting! What is the criterion for determining this?"

"My answer is that the correct answer is 'geocentricism,' but the focus is not on the physical central point, and the criterion for determining is not movement and stillness, but the will of the Creator!"

Baili Liangliu, Paul III, Mai Ke, Kong Yuliang, and Wenren Bogu said in unison: "I want to hear it in detail!"