Gellert Grindelwald's face sank for a moment.

He pondered for a moment, then slowly raised his head and looked at Jon carefully, "I thought he would have to wait a few years, until you became an adult...... I'll tell you the secret again!"

"Maybe Professor Dumbledore thinks I'm growing faster than I thought?" Jon guessed.

"Maybe!" said Grindelwald lightly.

His old, confused eyes looked out into the dim night sky through the raging flames, through the narrow gaps in the walls of the black stones......

Jon was thinking about whether to warn Mr. Grindelwald about not changing the subject.

Fortunately, Grindelwald doesn't seem to have any intention of doing so.

"Because I had already lost, completely lost!" his voice was very calm, not at all like an old man in his hundred years old, "As a loser, there is no point in keeping a secret, rather than taking it to the grave if you tell someone who will not divulge it." ”

"Haven't you ever thought about making a comeback?" Jon asked, curious.

"Hmph!" Grindelwald snorted, "Since I was defeated by him, it turns out that he is right and I am wrong...... The winner wins everything, and the wrong one deserves to die with his ideas, it's a simple rule. ”

"It's just a duel...... Jon said, stunned.

"Duel?" Grindelwald glanced at Jon with some mockery, "It's a war...... In Moscow, in Algiers, in Normandy...... I lost to him in every battle, he did better than me, he was better than me...... By the time of that final duel in 1945, I had nothing left!"

"Are you implying that you lost to him on purpose?" Jon couldn't help but blink: "That duel in Berlin in 1945 ......"

"Not exactly!" Grindelwald shook his head, "but I do have a chance to kill him, and with the Elder Wand in hand, it's not that difficult...... But at that point, when I had lost everything, it didn't make sense to kill him, or to kill Leonard Munn, or to kill Winston Churchill...... Because, I've failed. ”

"You said you'd rather be killed by Dumbledore after defeat......" Jon began.

Gellert Grindelwald failed, but his faithful followers didn't feel like they had failed...... In Bavaria, in Bulgaria, in Scandinavia...... Even if Gellert Grindelwald were killed by Albus Dumbledore, their resistance would not end, even if it was a meaningless and vain sacrifice......"

“...... But if Gellert Grindelwald had been defeated by Dumbledore and confessed his crimes in front of the leaders of the Ministry of Magic in dozens of countries, they would have fully realized that their faith had been shattered, and the war would have ended once and for all!" Grindelwald recounted calmly.

"That's why you're locked up in this prison after pleading guilty?" Jon asked, biting his lip.

"Do you think this prison alone can trap me?" Grindelwald sneered, "From Europe to North America, I have successfully carried out more than twenty prison escapes, and persuaded more than fifty jailers to hold me...... So, they didn't even dare to send a single watchman to this tower!"

"Do you think you can trap me with a few ridiculous protective spells, do you think you can stop me from casting spells without a wand and a distraction charm, or do you think you can get a few big cats from that stinky boy named Scamander......" Grindelwald shook his head, "I can easily get out of here if I want...... Of course, that would have been decades ago, and now I can't. After all, I haven't used any magic in fifty years. ”

"Honestly, you deserve more respect than I thought. Jon said with a serious face, no joke in his voice.

"Respect?" Grindelwald gave Jon a mocking look again, "It's just the rules of the game between me and him...... I have won his approval, understood each other, and even been close to him...... But we had very different philosophies and eventually parted ways......"

“...... He hates me, I hate him, and we both see each other as the ones who deserve to be destroyed!" Grinder Wharf paused before continuing, "But with my doomed defeat, then the war between us is over, and I will not last up doing any more pointless stubbornness, that pointlessness...... In addition to being able to cause deeper chaos!"

"In the same way, if the end result was not for him to come to Berlin, but for me to go to London, he would have chosen to do so...... Albus Dumbledore will also be easily defeated by me, and the entire wizarding world will quickly fall into my hands with his help. Grindelwald explained calmly.

"Professor Dumbledore didn't choose to control the world...... "he refused to take over Leonard Munn's position as Minister of Magic, instead choosing to succeed Armando Duppert as Headmaster of Hogwarts." ”

"It's his choice, it's none of my business. Grindelwald shook his head disdainfully: "Since he is willing to put the wizarding world in the hands of that group of philistines, since he himself chooses to stay away from the center of power...... I can only laugh at his stupidity and naivety here. ”

"Professor Dumbledore was a great man. Jon spoke slowly.

"Great and great are not the same. Grindelwald sneered as he glanced at Jon, "You don't have to show respect to me...... If I had been the victor in the first place, as a Muggle-born child, you wouldn't have even been able to be born. ”

"Respect and respect are also different. Jon replied calmly, "Respect doesn't mean approval. ”

......

There was a brief lull between the two.

After a few minutes of silence, the old man on the stone bed took the initiative to ask, "What is my final ending, what do you say you see...... In the Tower of Newmongaard, will you die alone?"

"yes. Jon turned and looked at the extremely narrow gap in the blackstone wall, and said slowly.

"And what about him, is he dead in the headmaster of Hogwarts?" Grindelwald continued.

"That's right!" Jon nodded again.

"You're lying to me...... Honestly, you're good at Occlumency, but you're not good at lying!" Grindelwald snorted.