2153 Massive information
Objectively speaking, according to the original script setting of "Lobster", there are not too many problems in the first part, even if it is copied, the real problem is that the second part has no way to echo the front, which is also the reason why Lan Li raised questions:
Either modify the second part, but Lan Li doesn't know how to change it for the time being, or modify the character, and then adjust the content of the first part and the second part of the character accordingly, and then extend more meanings - Lan Li chose the second option because he is an actor, not a screenwriter or director, and his perspective limits his way of thinking.
Now, Lan Li is trying to convince Ogles that modifying the characters can also make the story mellow and full. After the first part, it should be the second part of the main point.
So, David came to the forest. ”
Here are the two positions between David and the woman. David believes in love, and women believe in the system, the woman took a fancy to David and decided to use David to return to the city, so she began to give David constant hints, so that David thought she was in love with him, and David was indeed in love with her, knowing that the forest leader was against love, but he still rushed over like a moth to a fire, and followed the woman back to the city, even at the expense of poking her eyes blind for the woman, but in fact, all of them were just women's traps. ”
Lan Li elaborated the story thread of the entire second part in one go, in fact, if David's character setting is completed, then the story direction of the second part will be logical - because the characters are alive, the plot and story will become a matter of course.
"Wow. The amount of information detonated Ogles' brain again, "Wait, wait!" Eggs took a deep breath, "You mean, women believe in this system and do not hesitate to use David for the sake of it?"
"That's the other part of the discussion that we need to discuss, the setting of women. Lan Li's words made Ogles open his mouth slightly, his eyes full of consternation, and then Lan Li chuckled, "As I said, after the whole story background is formulated, the setting of the male and female protagonists will determine what kind of reflection the audience will have. ”
"I think a woman can have two choices, the first is that she, like David, went through everything, but she chose the negative side and went to the dark, but this idea is too simplistic and crude, and lacks new ideas and layers, and I personally prefer the second option. ”
"Profit first!"
"The woman believes that love and marriage can be bought and sold, as is the case with everything in the world, she once had a stable marriage, but she was betrayed, so she was forced to go to the hotel, she found a partner, and she was betrayed a second time, and she was forced to flee the forest. David is a believer in love, while a woman is a believer in profit. Although the experiences were very similar, they led to different outcomes. This also makes them feel sorry for each other - the woman chooses David as his next target, and David does fall in love with the woman, and he thinks that the woman is the same as himself. ”
Lan Li paused for a moment as he said this, and Ogles digested it for a moment, and then asked, "So, isn't the woman and the forest in the same mind, why did she abandon the forest and return to the city?"
"The idea of the forest is the other extreme, but they are only against the family and against love, which makes them stand on the opposite side of the hotel, which they see as a cancer of society, without realizing that the hotel itself is a part of society. Women are even more extreme. ”
"A woman is able to use everything for the sake of profit, she can use love, she can use family, she can use hotels, she can use the forest. To put it simply, survival of the fittest, that's Darwin's important doctrine, she's the highest level of the society you conceive, it's more advanced than the forest – or maybe she doesn't realize that she's growing into the ultimate form but the whole process is still evolving. ”
"She always survives!"
"We can look at the trajectory of the woman's role, and in the end, she evolved into the kind of person who once hurt her, that is, the elite of society, and David evolved into the next 'woman', because when the greater good came along, she would abandon David and let David fall into a cycle of pain again. ”
She even did not hesitate to coax David to poke her eyes blind for her own benefit. ”
At this point, Lan Li's words finally stopped completely, and the brainstorming in Ogels's mind had just climbed to the first peak, and countless thoughts were surging vigorously, and they couldn't stop at all:
uses David as the main line to connect the whole story, but the entire core drama falls on the woman, and through the woman's conspiracy to reflect David's innocence, and then reflect the structure of the entire society, mocking the so-called system, the so-called freedom, and the so-called love.
More importantly, the audience can get the information they want from the choice of David and the woman, which is the most important thing.
The intricacies that Ogles wanted to present are now presented in the conception of Lan Li.
Lan Li did not modify the framework of the script, but modified the character setting, and then started from the role, derived more branch details of the story, and then enriched the whole story; At the same time, the core of the whole story was also condensed, although there are still contradictions in the story setting of the hotel and the forest, and the whole pattern has not been able to open up the situation, but through David and the woman, more layers of society can be glimpsed.
Wonderful!
The charm of the characters is fully revealed at this moment, and even makes the whole story shine brightly, and the setting of Oglets has really been carried forward.
Ogles almost couldn't hold back the urge to cheer and applaud, the kind of enthusiastic surging emotions made him look at Lan Li intently and excitedly, but he couldn't say a word, and even the words of thanks stayed on the tip of his tongue, extremely urgent and extremely embarrassed.
Lan Li was waiting for Ogels' response, ready to continue to discuss the role and the script, but he saw Auggels's appearance of wanting to speak and stopping, and faintly, Lan Li sensed Ogles's intentions - was it because his remarks moved him, so that he began to feel sorry again?
"If you're sorry now, does that mean I've got the role?" Lan Li joked in a light-hearted and playful way.
Ogles finally laughed, "I'm more curious, where did these ideas come from?"
"Divergent thinking. Lan Li said half-jokingly, "Actually, these ideas are still in your story, but I gave some different inspiration, brainstorming can often give the story more possibilities, good and bad, my ideas and your ideas collide together, deriving more things, and finally the main creative core is needed to determine a tone and integrate them." These are well-established processes in the American film industry system, and they are also the reason why producers are able to wield so much power. ”
Because the producer is the core of the main creator, all the ideas are gathered, the tone is determined, and then the screenwriter and director and others complete the specific execution. A good producer who can give the right guidance and knows how to control and delegate control is the opposite.
The core producer of the Marvel series is Kevin Feige (Kevin-Feige), and in the early stages of the entire Marvel Universe, there are still many disagreements within Marvel Studios, and it is an independent department within the company that controls the tone and story direction of the entire film series: the Marvel Creative Committee.
Behind the works such as "Iron Man", "Guardians of the Galaxy", "Captain America 2", "The Avengers", etc., the Marvel Creative Committee can all be seen, and they are responsible for controlling the core creative content of the film, especially those parts related to the details of the original comics, which ensures the quality of the film.
But later, Kevin Feige and the Marvel creative committee had a disagreement, and in September 2015, the conflict between the two sides broke out, Kevin Feige threatened to resign, and then the two sides started a power infighting, which finally ended in Feige's victory, and after that, Disney did not interfere with the creativity of the Marvel series, and Feige was in charge.
After that, "Captain America 3", "Spider-Man", "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2", "Avengers 3 & 4", "Black Panther", "Thor 3" and other works are all controlled by Feige's style and creative direction, it can be clearly perceived that the commerciality and entertainment of the movie have begun to improve, for the structure of the entire Marvel Universe, the color of the original comics is gradually fading, those scientific principles, comic features, and otaku attributes are all gone, and then step by step the series of movies has evolved into an assembly line operation:
Characteristics and individuality are reduced, but the average quality is maintained. This also became an opportunity for Marvel movies to make history.
The topic returned to the ranks of the core producers, at this time Lan Li never had the intention of seizing the initiative, he did not change the whole story on a large scale, and then looked forward to the story revolving around the male protagonist and shaping it into a one-man show for the male protagonist, but to use the concept of Ogles to improve the character information, and derive the core of the story;
In "The Lobster", Ogles plays the role of "Kevin Feige".
Ogles looked at Lan Li with mixed eyes, but he still honestly said what he thought, "...... I thought you were trying to take control of your creation. ”
This is why Ogles has always been hostile to Lanli: for true artists, they don't want their work to be controlled by others – they don't want to be subjected, they want to be able to take control of their own creative initiative, especially in Europe.
It's their insistence on art.
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