Chapter 236 Industrial Policy is Indispensable
"It's actually quite simple. Pen × fun × Pavilion www. biquge。 info" Pan Weihua put on an elite posture and said to a room of people: "We don't have to support Zheng Bin or Deng Zongbai. We just need to come up with the goals and let them coordinate them. If the equipment of Xinyang No. 2 Chemical Machine is cheaper, the service is better, and the delivery is faster, the Binhai Chemical Industry Department will naturally accept it. If they can't do it, it's understandable that the Binhai Chemical Industry Department wants to choose equipment from other sources. ”
"You're pulling the wrong hand. Rao Zhitao finally couldn't hold back, "Our technology is worse than the Japanese, this is a well-known thing, according to your thinking, isn't it to support Binhai to import equipment directly from Japan?"
"If the equipment of Xinyang No. 2 Chemical Machinery is not good, why can't the Binhai Chemical Industry Department choose better equipment?" Pan Weihua asked rhetorically.
"Is the country's industrial policy still going to be implemented? The state has made it clear that it wants to localize major equipment, and Director Feng of the Heavy Equipment Office is sitting here, so you can talk to him?" Rao Zhitao said.
Pan Weihua sneered: "The industrial policy itself is a means of protecting backwardness, and how many of our industries are not enterprising because of policy protection, and they have fallen into such a situation where today's technology is inferior to others." Institutions like the Heavy Armament Office...... Director Feng, I'm not targeting you, I'm just saying that this kind of institution should not exist in the first place, look at the United States, Europe, Japan, which developed country relies on industrial policy to protect backward industries?"
"You ......" Rao Zhitao was almost about to be inflicted with myocardial infarction, this kid really dares to say, our ministries and commissions have been engaged in industrial policies for decades, and he dared to completely deny the industrial policy when he didn't have any hair. He pointed at Pan Weihua with his finger and wanted to scold him a few words, but he couldn't find words for a while, and his face turned purple.
"Director Rao, don't get excited. Feng Xiaochen waved his hand to Rao Zhitao, then turned to Pan Weihua and said with a smile: "Director Pan, who did you hear say that Japan does not engage in industrial policy?"
"Does Japan have an industrial policy?" Pan Weihua asked disdainfully.
Feng Xiaochen sighed softly, this benevolent brother is quite radical in his thinking, and it can be seen that his knowledge really can't keep up. Japan can be said to be the most fond of industrial policy in the world, and this is something that people all over the world know. Even if Brother Pan Ren doesn't know foreign languages and can't read foreign literature, a large number of articles on Japan's industrial policy have been published in China in recent years.
"Director Pan, Japan not only has an industrial policy, but also does a lot of it. In the early 50s, Japan put forward the goal of equipment modernization and export development, and set up a "heavy machinery and equipment technical advisory agency" to guide the export of complete sets of equipment. Between 1956 and 1959, Japan successively promulgated the Machinery Industry Promotion Act, the Electronics Industry Promotion Act, the Light Machinery Export Promotion Act, and the Temporary Measures Act for the Promotion of the Export of Complete Equipment.
Every year, the Ministry of International Trade and Industry (MITI) formulates the 'International Trade Industry Concept' and proposes ideas for industrial development within 10 years, which is equivalent to our five-year plan. The "Concept of Trade and Industrial Policy in the 80's," which was recently published, clearly states that Japan's catch-up modernization has been completed, that it is necessary to replace a country based on technology as a country based on trade, and that it is necessary to take the intensification of creative knowledge as the direction of development of its industrial structure.
As a cadre of the state planning department, you are ignorant of the situation of our biggest competitor, and we are really worried about relying on a half-understood Western economic theory to guide policy. ”
Feng Xiaochen's tone of voice was very calm, but in the end, he couldn't help but stab Pan Weihua. He and Pan Weihua have no personal enmity, and from the perspective of the rules of the agency, it is not appropriate to take him too seriously. But Pan Weihua's performance just now was really a little too cold, which made Feng Xiaochen very uncomfortable. He bluntly said that the other party did not know much about Western economic theories, one was to counter Pan Weihua's arrogance, and the other was to hope to wake up the other party and save the other party from continuing on the wrong path.
As for whether he would offend Pan Weihua by saying this, Feng Xiaochen didn't care. At the beginning, he even stabbed Meng Fanze, what is a little Pan Weihua? Pan Weihua just said that there is no need for the Heavy Equipment Office to exist, this is already not to give Feng Xiaochen face, since you provoke first, I don't beat your face into a pig's head, how can I explain to Luo Xiangfei when I go back?
Feng Xiaochen also saw that the other people in this room were quite angry with Pan Weihua, including Wang Shicheng. With Wang Shicheng supporting him, Pan Weihua couldn't jump even if he wanted to. As for whether or not the Planning Commission will challenge Feng Xiaochen on this matter after returning to China, he is even less worried; if Pan Weihua's remarks today reach the ears of the chief director of the Planning Commission, it will definitely be Pan Weihua who will be unlucky, and perhaps the Planning Commission will send people to various ministries and commissions to apologize.
"This ......" Pan Weihua was blocked tightly by Feng Xiaochen. He didn't know if what Feng Xiaochen said was true, but judging from the fact that Feng Xiaochen dared to say it, it was estimated that there must be some basis.
When he was in a class at the Academy of Social Sciences, his teacher clearly said that Western countries are free market economies, and the government only acts as a policeman who pours out the night pot and will not intervene in the economy in any way. But according to Feng Xiaochen's statement, the Japanese government's intervention in the economy is not a lot at all, and this law and that law sound like an unfree smell, is there something wrong with what the teacher said?
It's complicated in between.
First of all, the teacher who gave Pan Weihua an economics class was not nonsense, at best he had some Spring and Autumn penmanship, and he didn't explain things too clearly.
The policies of Western countries are also wavering, and the earliest ones are indeed advocating a free economy. By the time of the Great Crisis of '29-33, Keynesian theory had gained the upper hand, and countries began to intervene in their economies. Another important factor in this is the exemplary role of the Soviet Union. The 29-33 crisis hit the countries with a large market economy, but the Soviet Union, which adopted the planned economic model, made a triumphant march and became a standout, and the Western countries naturally had the idea of following suit.
The Great Crisis was followed by World War II. World War II reduced the whole of Europe to ruins, and it was natural that post-war reconstruction could not rely on market forces, so the government regulators prevailed for a time. In the late '60s and '70s, when there was severe stagflation in the West, state intervention became less and less effective, and the theory of the free market returned to fashion.
It was during this period that China began to reform and open up, and it was these free market theories that domestic scholars first came into contact with.
Another reason is that Europe and the United States have not done as well as Japan in terms of industrial policy. Many times Japan's industrial policy is to dig into the corners of the Western powers, and it is only when Japan rises and is able to compete with the West that the West suddenly realizes that the term "the notorious Ministry of International Trade and Industry" appears.
"According to you, we should protect enterprises like Xinyang Erhua Machinery and let farmers wait for more than ten years before using their fertilizers?" Pan Weihua asked Feng Xiaochen rhetorically.
Feng Xiaochen grinned and said, "Director Pan, this can stop me, how can I be the master of such a policy issue? I just said that Japan also has an industrial policy, and they have protected their own industries very well, so they have reached the current level." ”
Wang Shicheng saw that Pan Weihua's arrogance had been suppressed, and he was afraid that if he said more, it would be complicated, so he interjected first and said, "Xiao Feng, what is your personal opinion on this matter at the moment?"
Speaking of personal opinions, that is, this does not represent the opinion of the Heavy Equipment Office, and Feng Xiaochen does not need to be responsible for what he says. But after all, Feng Xiaochen is the person hand-picked by Luo Xiangfei, and his meaning can also reflect the idea of the Heavy Equipment Office, Wang Shicheng, as the head of the inspection team, needs to listen to it.
Feng Xiaochen said: "Okay, I'll talk about my immature ideas, hereby explain, only on behalf of myself, don't be surprised by the wrong leaders." ”
"It's okay, you can say it, Xiao Feng. Several other deputy directors all encouraged, but Pan Weihua just snorted coldly and couldn't say anything.
Just now, Feng Xiaochen squeezed Pan Weihua, which made several deputy directors feel very happy. Ministries and commissions are engaged in industrial policy, and Pan Weihua has said that industrial policy is in the dark, and who can be happy to hear it? However, Pan Weihua's knowledge structure is relatively new, and he is carrying a banner of learning from the advanced experience of the West, and everyone really cannot refute him. Feng Xiaochen is reasonable, and he uses the case of a developed country, and he can be regarded as treating others in the way of others, which is really a beautiful job.
Feng Xiaochen received everyone's encouragement, smiled, and said, "I think that the issue of the interests of the three parties analyzed by Director Pan just now still has a certain amount of truth. From the agricultural aspect, urea is indispensable if we want to increase grain production, and we cannot wait until our technology is mature to provide urea to farmers. As for the fertilizer plant, it is understandable that they hope to get products with mature technology and excellent quality, so Director Zheng's idea is not exaggerated. ”
"What you're talking about is just one aspect. Rao Zhitao added, "Zheng Bin: They hope to introduce Japanese technology in its entirety, and in addition to the idea of being able to put it on the table, there are also personal selfishness." How many opportunities can the introduction of a set of foreign technology, negotiation and contract signing, create opportunities to go abroad?
In addition, when the construction of the project begins, the Japanese side will send technicians and workers to Binhai, and Binhai can use this excuse to build high-standard foreign guest buildings and guest houses, update office equipment and all kinds of high-end furniture, and even buy high-end cars, all of which can be used under the banner of serving foreign affairs. Think about it, how many people can benefit from it?"
"Uh......" Feng Xiaochen was dumbfounded, there was such a thing.