Chapter 863: Debate

The hosts of talk shows have their own style, so that the personality of the show can be formed, so as to circle a group of die-hard fans. In the program that Feng Xiaochen participated in, the host has always been known for his sharp thinking, and he often likes to ask some tricky questions, so that the guests who participate in the conversation can't get off the stage. Of course, she is not the same for all the guests, when she meets the object of her admiration, such as Professor Gao Lei of Harvard University, she will immediately transform into the little girl next door, and she will do her best to be kind and docile.

Wang Zhenbin and Feng Xiaochen, naturally do not belong to the type of host, on the contrary, she is extremely opposed to the country's infrastructure construction and industrialization, this time after the accident at the Ruishan Power Plant, she posted a lot of criticism of the National Development and Reform Commission on her Weibo account, and also won the praise of many netizens. Inviting NDRC officials to participate in this talk show is a request made by the host himself to the NDRC. The NDRC knew her characteristics and deliberately refused, but was worried about falling behind. You know, this young lady dares to say anything, if the NDRC refuses her request, she dares to say on the show that the NDRC avoids questioning, and then puts forward a string of comments like "we can't help but ask".

couldn't refuse to participate, but was worried about being embarrassed by the host, in desperation, the leaders of the National Development and Reform Commission thought of Feng Xiaochen and felt that maybe only Feng Xiaochen could cope with such a scene. Feng Xiaochen had also understood the host's position and hosting style in advance, and it was not surprising to hear that she quietly set herself a trap at this time.

"First of all, on behalf of Equipment Industry Company, I would like to express my deep condolences to the workers who died in this power plant accident, and express my sincere greetings and deep apologies to their families. ”

Feng Xiaochen picked up the microphone in front of him and began to speak. He didn't rush to argue about anything, but first expressed his sadness over the accident, you know, this is also a necessary routine, if he doesn't say these words, he will be crowned with the title of "cold-blooded brother" on the Internet.

"The Seosan Power Plant is a major equipment construction project, and as the head of the State Equipment Industry Corporation, I believe that I am responsible for the major personal injury and death accident that occurred in this project. I once attended the groundbreaking ceremony of the Seosan Power Plant, but during the subsequent construction process, I was unable to visit the construction site again to inspect the actual situation, so that I could not detect the hidden dangers on the site in time, which led to such a tragedy, and I feel deeply remorseful for this. ”

When Feng Xiaochen said this, he bowed his head deeply towards the camera, which was equivalent to bowing and apologizing.

The host said expressionlessly: "Mr. Feng is indeed strict with himself, in fact, according to the preliminary investigation report of the accident we have seen, it does not mention that the State Equipment Industry Corporation should be responsible for this matter." However, it is precisely because of this that we have a doubt. According to our reporter's understanding, the 1 million kilowatt unit used by the Ruishan Power Plant this time was adopted by the equipment company, and in the previous media publicity carried out by the equipment industry company, it was also believed that this technology was mature and reliable. But it was precisely this technology that caused such significant casualties, so why did the investigation team think that the equipment company was not responsible for the matter?"

Feng Xiaochen snorted lightly and asked, "Host, why do you think that the technology of the 1 million kilowatt unit caused the casualties?"

"This is the consensus on the Internet. The moderator replied lightly.

"Who is the consensus on the Internet?" Feng Xiaochen asked rhetorically.

The moderator said: "Professor Gao Lei of Harvard University holds this view, and I think everyone knows his academic level, right? Professor Gao Lei believes that China introduced the 300,000 kilowatt and 600,000 kilowatt thermal power unit technology from the United States in the 80s, which has not yet been digested and absorbed. Under these circumstances, the hasty introduction of 1 million kilowatts of technology in pursuit of so-called world leadership is a sign of great success, and it is expected that it will lead to serious casualties. ”

Feng Xiaochen smiled faintly: "Host, I want to remind you that Professor Gao Lei is a professor of economics, and he is a complete layman in thermal power unit technology. We introduced the 300,000 kilowatt and 600,000 kilowatt technology from the United States in the 80s, and as early as the mid-to-late 90s, it was fully digested and absorbed, and the upgraded products were launched. The 600,000 kilowatt unit technology we launched with independent intellectual property rights is superior to that of the American Xiyi Company that transferred the technology to us, which has been recognized by the engineers of the Xiyi Company. ”

"It's not necessary, since Mr. Feng said this, there must be a basis. However, what Mr. Feng just said is only 600,000 kilowatts of technology. The host was a little embarrassed. Feng Xiaochen said that Xiyi's engineers also admitted that China had better technology, and that there was a letter between them and Longshan Electric Power Factory to prove it, which was obviously not a lie. After all, Feng Xiaochen specializes in this business, and what he says is naturally more credible than Gao Lei's words.

"Maybe we already have 600,000 kilowatts of technology, so why can't we use this more mature technology and use the immature 1 million kilowatt technology?" the moderator asked.

Feng Xiaochen asked rhetorically: "Who did you listen to say that our 1 million kilowatt technology is immature?"

"So, how do you explain the accident this time?" the host found the explanation.

Feng Xiaochen said: "This is exactly what I want to clarify to the audience and friends. This time, the accident at the construction site of the Ruishan Power Plant was a scaffolding collapse accident that occurred during the construction of the cooling tower at the construction site, and it had nothing to do with what type of generator set was used. Some online articles are either ignorant or deliberate, interpreting the accident as the result of the use of 1 million kilowatt units, and then questioning the technical level of the 1 million kilowatt units, which is a method of grafting flowers and trees, and is pouring dirty water on China's equipment manufacturing industry and misleading netizens. ”

"This is very important. Wang Zhenbin also spoke, "After this unfortunate incident, I saw a lot of comments on the Internet. Some of the comments are more pertinent, thinking that we are now on a large scale of infrastructure construction, and we cannot ignore the requirements for safe production, which is very correct. However, there are also some people who deliberately interpret a liability accident as a technical accident, and use the accident that occurred in the construction of cooling towers to deny the advanced technology of thermal power units. I agree with Mr. Feng just now, some of these people may just be ignorant, but there must be some people who have malicious intentions. ”

"Does Director Wang mean that this accident has nothing to do with your work?" the moderator asked, and a hole had been dug in his words and waited.

Wang Zhenbin could not be fooled like this, he said seriously: "The occurrence of such a serious accident is of course related to our work. As I said earlier, we have a large scale of construction, and there are thousands of projects started at the same time, and there are some management negligence, which led to this serious accident. We must learn the lessons of this time and strengthen management so that similar accidents can be avoided. ”

The host asked: "So, can I understand that if the scale of construction can be smaller, the pace is slower, such accidents can be avoided." ”

"No one can guarantee that there will be no accidents, but if the scale of construction is smaller, the likelihood of accidents will be smaller, that's for sure," Wang said. ”

"In that case, why should we be so happy and blindly expand the scale of construction?" the host was reasonable, staring at Wang Zhenbin and asked.

Feng Xiaochen took over the conversation and asked, "Host, why do you think that we are blind in expanding the scale of construction? and why do you think that this is a great achievement?"

"Isn't this a great achievement?" said the host, "According to the information I have seen, we now have 30 trillion yuan in infrastructure investment a year, which is equivalent to nearly 4 trillion US dollars, which is more than five times that of the United States.

"The America you use to make comparisons is the America of today. In the '20s and '60s, the scale of infrastructure in the United States was no smaller than that of China today, so why don't you compare it with the United States at that time?" Mr. Feng said.

"But the U.S. has now abandoned this reliance on infrastructure to boost GDP. ”

"It's just because they've already built the infrastructure. You know, the United States has 100,000 kilometers of highways and 200,000 kilometers of railways, which are all levels that the United States has reached in the 70s of the last century. And we have less than half the mileage of highways and railroads in the United States, don't you think we should build them?"

"But how do you explain the accident at the Seosan power plant?"

"It is impossible to engage in construction without accidents. In the course of the development of all countries in the world, there have been accidents, large and small, and any development has a price, including the price of blood. ”

"Mr. Feng, do you think such a price is worth it?"

"Of course it's worth it!" Feng Xiaochen said solemnly, "The price of blood is indeed unacceptable, but such a thing is inevitable. It is part of the process of human exploration and discovery, and it is an inevitable part of not fearing hardships and dangers to broaden the horizons of mankind. The future never belongs to the cowardly, the future belongs only to the brave. ”

"Mr. Feng, don't you think you're singing a high profile with this statement? Could it be that this is the attitude of Chinese officials towards a major personal accident?" the host asked with a sneering face.

"I think any responsible official in any country would say that. Feng Xiaochen said.

"At least, I'm sure U.S. officials wouldn't say that. The host shrugged his shoulders and said.

"Really?" Feng Xiaochen looked at the host's face, and then said:

"What I just said was Reagan's speech after the Challenger space shuttle crash. I think Reagan should be considered an American official, right?"