Speaking of this, Chen Xiaoqing said with a serious face: "I try to let everyone know that human beings are actually a whole, and now they are becoming more and more a whole, and food is the best ambassador of goodwill." ”

"For example, from different perspectives such as physical geography, human geography, species transmission, and food revolution, such as the invention of fire, the participation of water in cooking, and the beginning of agricultural civilization, we can re-examine food. ”

"To give you a simple example, 10,000 years ago, humans tamed wheat and started farming, and 9,000 years ago wheat began to spread eastward to westward, and westward it more often encountered fire, so it became pizza, bread, and scones. To the east, you will encounter more water and turn it into steamed buns and noodles. ”

"Let's talk about a trip to the baked cake, the cake from West Asia, its volume as naan in XJ is very different from the crab shell yellow eaten in the magic capital, in fact, the volume is a little smaller. ”

"Then it will be a little smaller in Gansu, a little smaller in Shaanxi, a little smaller in Henan and Shandong, and finally a little smaller in Jiangsu. The spread of food is actually related to the fertility of local products, climate and other factors. ”

SC Johnson listened very carefully, unlike watching TV, face-to-face can better appreciate Chen Xiaoqing's love for food, and even a kind of faith.

"Hey, it's too serious, isn't it?" Chen Xiaoqing was afraid of the awkward atmosphere, and joked: "I'm not so godly, it all depends on the strength of the team, not only us, but also many behind-the-scenes heroes." ”

"Anthropologists, sociologists, master chefs, and of course, most importantly, gourmets, such as Mr. Cai Lan......"

"At that time, we wanted to find out when Yusheng appeared and what its development process was, so we approached Professor Yu, and she could answer our question. ”

"If you want to know when the dietary pattern of Nanmi and North was formed, and what is the yield per mu, I found Professor Han of Peking University, who can provide all the background of agricultural geography and planting history. ”

Later, because of a commentary in the film, which was only about 20 words, Mr. Yu wrote us a reply letter of more than 4,000 words "The Preliminary Examination of Yuqing", which was really moving. ”

Seeing that Johnson listened with relish, he continued: "There are also various scientific advisers, certain foods that are obviously harmful to health, must be screened out, try not to be included in the program, or give effective tips to the audience. ”

"If you want to explain why something is delicious, if many people don't know why mutton is tender, we will tell everyone that mutton is tender because it is fat, but a person in the Yangtze River basin may think that fat mutton is tender."

"The fat content of lamb is the one that determines the taste, the fat content is from 1% to 7%, the flavor is incremental, in this range, every percentage point increase, the taste is on the next level, 7% is a critical point, and then it will appear fatty. ”

"The director knows these data, and in the film, he will not simply say that the mutton is very tender, but that under the fat fat, the meat is extremely tender, which is a causal relationship. ”

"Maybe only five out of 10,000 people know what it means, but it's our job to get the right meaning across. ”

"Why are there so many food programs, everyone only likes to watch the tip of the tongue?" Chen Xiaoqing smiled mysteriously and revealed: "The killer feature is the photomicrographing team, from the University of Science and Technology, through experiments, to help us use a microscope to photograph the details of food changes and the mystery behind them, so that the audience can more accurately feel some touches of taste and smell." ”

Johnson suddenly realized, so he couldn't help but ask: "Then you and Mr. Cai Lan?"

"The last team is the food consultants, who decide the choice of food to a certain extent. There are two main aspects of work. On the one hand, there are teachers Shen Hongfei, Cai Lan, and Chen Li, which are more influenced by our values. ”

"For example, food is the bond between people and people, and the most ordinary food also has the strongest family affection, etc. It's been influencing me ever since I started working with them fifteen years ago. ”

"Especially Mr. Shen Hongfei, we call him Shen Ye, and he often says some keywords and golden sentences. For example, the latest flavor of the world, that is, the mountains and rivers that come from his mouth are still the same, and the flavor has not changed. ”

"The other part of the gastronomy experts, called local gastronomy experts, have studied Spain, France, wine, fermentation, restaurants, folk ingredients, and crops......

"They were able to provide a big list, and we would look for it from inside. So some viewers are worried and say, how to classify this, what will happen in the future after all the filming is completed? In fact, according to the existing materials in our hands, there is no problem at all in doing another seven seasons!"

The appetizers began to be served, and the three of them chatted while eating, and Johnson took out a bottle of Lafite and helped Chen Xiaoqing fill it, hoping to hear more food anecdotes.

"At the beginning of this year, we went to London to photograph Chinese food-related life and went to three restaurants. The first is the kind of restaurant where Chinese food first spread, and many Chinese food there are not even available in China. For example, crispy duck, just like Zuo Zongtang chicken, which is only available in the United States, and crispy duck is only available in London, and is called Chinese food by the locals. ”

"Since the end of the last century, there has been more and more authentic Chinese food in London, and Sichuan cuisine has also established itself there, and the locals have slowly begun to accept it. Finally, we went to a small noodle restaurant next to the Emirates Stadium, a very small noodle restaurant, where a girl made Xi'an trouser belt noodles, which was actually Biángbiáng noodles. ”

After hearing this, Hu Hai couldn't help but sigh: "Hey, now it's fast food takeaways at every turn, and many young people don't know how to cook by themselves, as if they don't even have the kung fu to eat a meal!"

Chen Xiaoqing shook her head and said helplessly: "No way, now urban life is becoming more and more homogeneous, those big shopping plazas are central kitchen food, and everyone eats very happily when the microwave is hot." ”

"Migrant workers use their mobile phones in the office building, and the takeaway is quickly delivered to them. The convenience and joy that this kind of food can bring to people is certainly worth celebrating. ”

"No one can stop the trend of lower and lower costs and more homogeneity, but we want to leave more samples of this once diverse life, and that's it. ”

Picked up a piece of broccoli, put it in his mouth, and commented: "The simplest is spices, and there is a big cognitive bias in how much to use." Indians think that our cooking is too heavy and tasteful, and they can't stand it. ”

"I once had an argument with the director, and there was a dish in which chicken was actually stewed with a lot of spices, and he said that this was the best way to bring out the flavor of the food. ”

"Maybe from the chef's point of view, this is the true taste of chicken, but what is the original taste of chicken, this may be a matter of public saying that the public is reasonable. Everyone has their own perceptions. ”

"When I was born, there were more than a thousand kinds of grain in the world to be exchanged in the market, and by the time my son was born, there were only a few hundred left. In the future, if my son has any more children, there will be only a few dozen kinds of children. ”

"Because it's human nature that people will definitely choose the food that has the highest yield, the most nutritious and the most convenient preservation. However, the different characteristics of personality and vital signs brought by grains, which were particularly complex in the past, will gradually disappear. ”

"A crab pond contracted by Song Caixing, this year because Taihu Lake has to supply drinking water to the surrounding area, many crab ponds that are used as the livelihood of the whole family have been demolished, we took it last year, if we go this year, we will not be able to photograph it. ”

"The dragon beard bamboo shoots are so cute, and this year I can only eat bamboo shoots from the shallow mountains, because fire has been completely banned in the deep mountains, and it is also for environmental protection, so I couldn't shoot it in the end. ”

Chen Xiaoqing sighed and said with a lonely expression: "What we photographed is just a back, not to say that we advocate something, but we want to leave image samples." In the past 40 years, great economic and social changes have taken place, and all people's mental states and quality of life have undergone tremendous changes. ”

As a documentarian, I think it is our honor and responsibility to record it!"