Chapter 502: Misthinking

"By the way, the last time I entrusted you, Annie, what is your attitude now, the other party urged me to ask me about the result. ”

After finishing finishing business, Zhang Rujin remembered what Liu Changgeng had asked for.

"What's the matter?" Liu Ruoyi didn't react at once.

"It's the CPU industrialization venture capital thing. ”

"That's something, I don't think it's interesting, according to the business plan, there is a high probability that it will be killed, so I decided to kill it. ”

Liu Changgeng also said that there is a big market for this matter in the mainland, and in the future, the official market in the mainland alone will be very large.

Now there is a lack of start-up capital. It turns out that this kid has also started to ambush me. Zhang Rujin said with a wry smile.

Liu Ruoyi's judgment of course he believes that this is a wonder girl who has a very vicious vision for the future, and if she says no, this thing really can't work.

"I also took a look at it, and I feel that they are too idealistic, and there is almost nothing to subvert in the current computer industry, the x86 architecture of home and commercial desktop PCs.

The rest of the market is to grab the server market, but now there are too many people competing in this area, and I have recently read reports that the famous SUN company may not be able to survive and will go bankrupt. ”

As an insider, Zhang Rujin obviously looks at this matter from a more professional perspective than Liu Ruoyi.

But although Liu Ruoyi is not professional, she has the memory of her previous life to deal with the actual combat results, and the two sides are on the same path.

"Sun is going bankrupt? This company has a very high technical content, do we have any chance to acquire it through the institutions in Xiangjiang?" Hearing Zhang Rujin's additional news, Liu Ruoyi's heart moved.

As Zhang Rujin just said, the general-purpose processor in the desktop PC market is basically X86, and the world is unshakable.

In Liu Ruoyi's view, the server still has a few opportunities, because the future will enter the era of cloud services.

If you can find a good fulcrum in this market, when cloud services rise in the future, this server market will be a lot of fat.

"I'm really hard to say, you can try it, after all, relatively speaking, SUN's technology is slightly behind in processors compared to other companies, and the versatility is not as good as Intel and AMD, and the performance is not as good as PowerPC. ”

Zhang Rujin thought for a moment and replied uncertainly.

"The thing left by the dog, in fact, another way of thinking, if it can be applied from the industry, such as video decoding, routers or something, this market really has a relatively large market. ”

After Zhang Rujin finished talking about Sun, he also mentioned the things that Liu Changgeng explained by the way.

"Okay, I'll study this industry and think about it carefully. Liu Ruoyi saw Zhang Rujin's attitude, and there were some changes.

...

After collecting some information, Liu Ruoyi compared the past and present lives of the dog, and found that this thing that is currently quite out of the way has also been wide in the past.

In terms of its original architecture, MIPS, this used to be the best RISC CPU ever sold, and it was used quite widely.

Once Oriental video game consoles, Cisco routers, and even early SGI supercomputers used this now-little-known CPU architecture.

It can be seen that technically this thing is not useless.

Thinking of the video decoding that Zhang Rujin said, Liu Ruoyi's heart moved.

Not to mention anything else, digital TVs, set-top boxes and future video cameras are big users of video decoding chips.

If this thing is really cost-effective, then it is also possible to make money in this large-scale application.

Thinking of this, Liu Ruoyi decided to meet the technical leaders of this team and wanted to hear their real thoughts.

Although the PPT is a bit unrealistic, if it is technically possible, then it is okay to invest in it.

Even if it doesn't make money, it's not bad to be able to support an independent and controllable company in a subdivision.

At this moment, Liu Ruoyi is still in her historical impression of the dog, so she doesn't feel that there is room for redemption in this matter.

...

Wu Zuhua received the news and finally had a feeling of seeing the sun.

He immediately made a report and hurried to Xiangjiang to see Liu Ruoyi.

"In terms of application, it is mainly used in the industry, changed to video decoding, and made digital TV and video camera chips?"

After Wu Zuhua excitedly introduced his baby chip, his brain was a little foggy when he heard Liu Ruoyi ask like this.

I didn't expect that at all.

We didn't develop it for this, Wu Zuhua would like to explain it this way. But he restrained his emotions.

"Theoretically, there is no problem, because our chip has strong floating-point computing capabilities, and a lot of video decoding is floating-point operations, so it shouldn't be a big problem to change to these applications. ”

Wu Zuhua affirmed Liu Ruoyi's idea from a technical level.

"However, we are developing independent and controllable general-purpose chips for the country, in case one day the chip blockade we have no cores available, so the main strength of research and development is still on the research and development of general-purpose CPUs.

Because there are some areas where you can't buy independent and controllable intellectual property rights just by spending money. ”

Next, Wu Zuhua still drew a clear line between his peers in the same industry in applying chip design.

"Mr. Wu, take the liberty of asking, are your current intellectual property rights completely independent and controllable?" Liu Ruoyi asked when she heard this.

"I've heard that the instruction set is also patented, what is your relationship with the MIPS architecture?"

Liu Ruoyi really doesn't know the specific details of the dog's leftovers.

When Wu Zuhua heard this, his face turned red, and Liu Ruoyi's seemingly unintentional question really embarrassed him.

"In terms of design, this thing is a hardware design that we have completely autonomously made little by little, and it is very different from MIPS in terms of hardware, but in terms of instruction set, we do have to use a lot of their instructions for compatibility. ”

Wu Zuhua finally decided to tell the truth.

"We bought some of their licenses, but our project team had too little money before, and this instruction set license was expensive, and we couldn't afford to buy all the architecture licenses, so when the financing was successful, we considered solving this problem first. ”

This is Wu Zuhua's truth, this research and development has been carried out for 9 years, and a total of about 500 million yuan has been invested, Wu Zuhua has asked for the MIPS architecture authorization fee, at least millions of dollars!

Converted into RMB, it is tens of millions, up to a year's R&D expenses, where can the previous project team afford this authorization, anyway, there is no commercial promotion, and the other party has no recruitment for the project team.

Now that he wants to commercialize, Wu Zuhua has to put this matter on the agenda, provided that enough funds need to be raised.

Otherwise, the project team will not be able to support it, where would they dare to think of these things.

"What operating system are you going to run on it, and which companies can provide you with software support?" Liu continued.

Wu Zuhua was even more panicked in his heart.

"For the time being, we are adapting the operating system by ourselves, and the Linux system can run well on it, and in the future, we can rely on the development of the Linux software ecological chain. Wu Zuhua said stubbornly.

"But as far as I know, Linux should be rarely used by the general population, right? I think in the business plan, your market goal is to target the desktop market, and compete with the wintel alliance to grab the PC market, am I mistaken?"

Wu Zuhua was a little embarrassed.

What's going on, spending more than 100,000 to invite venture capital industry experts, why does it feel completely unreliable now, even more outrageous than Liu Ruoyi, a layman.

At least Wu Zuhua can hear it, and the other party has his own ideas.

Now to make a core product in the upstream of the industrial chain such as CPU, in fact, the quality of the product itself is one thing, and the most important thing is whether the supporting ecology can be established.

With his current ability, let alone internationally, even in China, he can't pull up the ecological chain that Liu Ruoyi said.

"No, Miss Annie, you understand correctly, it turns out that we plan to attack the desktop PC market, just to borrow the Linux operating system ecology, of course, from the current point of view, Linux's desktop ecology is also quite unsatisfactory, in a sense, Linux is more suitable for server applications. ”

Wu Zuhua can only say truthfully, in his opinion, the technical skills of the girl in front of him may be zero, but in terms of business understanding, it is simply terrible.

"Have you ever studied the Android system, that is, the Google open source Android system used in the mobile phone, I invested in a mobile phone company, and now I am developing an HTC G1, which is based on the Android system, if the CPU in it is replaced by MIPS chips, do you assess whether there is this feasibility. ”

After listening to Wu Zuhua's answer, Liu Ruoyi was even more convinced that there was basically no room for this thing in the desktop computer application market, so she asked on a whim.

"Miss Annie, I'm sorry, I really don't know much about this Android system, and we won't know if it works until we study it carefully. Wu Zuhua continued to reply embarrassedly.

The Android system has not been out for a long time, and there are really not many people in the mainland who study this system at this time.

"I don't know much about technology, but I heard HTC engineers say that the Android system is also developed on the basis of Linux, which can be regarded as a variant of Linux. Liu Ruoyi said.

"In terms of general principle, there should be no problem, MIPS supports Linux very well. Wu Zuhua breathed a sigh of relief,

"It's just that if it's running on a mobile phone, the requirements for low power consumption are relatively high, and at present, our dog's residual power consumption is unable to do this, but this is because we use MIPS64 architecture, MIPS and MIPS32 architecture, and the power consumption can be relatively low or there may be technical feasibility. ”

Following Liu Ruoyi's words, Wu Zuhua affirmed Liu Ruoyi's ideas in principle.

However, it is obvious that the direction of the discussion has completely deviated from Wu Zuhua's original conception.

It's a bit of a contradiction.

Liu Ruoyi was not very interested in the technology of MIPS, but when she heard Wu Zuhua's answer, her heart suddenly moved, which triggered her idea of replacing it on her mobile phone.

Now she was a little interested.

"Mr. Wu, I think we can conduct a more in-depth study on this mobile application, at least first figure out some technical feasibility before we can make a more comprehensive judgment on this. Liu Ruoyi said.

"How much does it cost the parent company of MIPS technology to buy it now?"

Liu Ruoyi suddenly asked a digression.

"This..."Wu Zuhua couldn't keep up with Liu Ruoyi's train of thought, and almost short-circuited for a while.

"It shouldn't be too expensive, but we haven't looked at it carefully, and it's probably more than 100 million US dollars. At present, the shipment of MIPS architecture products is not too large, the licensing fee should not be very much, they do not sell products, the revenue is not too much, and the price on the NASDAQ will not be too high. ”

Wu Zuhua still briefly said according to the numbers in his impression. However, this is really a general impression, and there is no accuracy, after all, Wu Zuhua will not pay serious attention to MIPS stocks.

He can't even give the license fee, how could he think of ending everyone else?!

I can't even think of going to this piece anyway.

But Liu Ruoyi's perspective on doing things is different from his occupation, and to do this, of course, you have to think about it from the entire ecological chain.

At least in the critical chain, you need to think about which links must be controlled.

After some conversation, Liu Ruoyi probably had her own thoughts about this matter.

Obviously, MIPS has long been relatively outdated in desktop applications, and if the desktop general-purpose CPU is hacked all the way in the application, there is almost no big way out.

But if this thing is unique in terms of video decoding, if it can also be applied to mobile phones, or even tablets in the future. Then the market in the field of mobile products in the future is still good.

The most important thing is that there is no overwhelming hegemon in the current mobile computing market, although the fruit machine is very popular, but their technical closed attitude, until Liu Ruoyi crossed through the previous life, they were all behind closed doors to play their own routines.

On the contrary, the Android system Liu Ruoyi knows very well that it is the mainstream of the future!

Now this is just the beginning, if you can use MIPS to cut into this market, now there is not too much interference from the ecological chain, and after making a good product, you can push the solution model to solve customer problems perfectly.

In this way, MIPS can find its way back on the road of mobile computing in the future.

Of course, it is not clear whether Liu Ruoyi can transform it into an application suitable for mobile phones.

After all, the application of mobile phones is very demanding, requiring very high power consumption control, and the battery power supply and plug-in mode are completely different.

If this problem can't be solved, then don't think about tossing around with this mobile app.

Wu Zuhua doesn't know much about mobile phones now, and of course it is impossible to answer Liu Ruoyi's question immediately, so he had to promise to go back and conduct a careful technical feasibility study.

Today's incident is completely beyond the scope of his imagination.

Wu Zuhua has to say that Liu Ruoyi is a very powerful negotiation opponent, although Liu Ruoyi may really know nothing about the details of the technology, but in terms of the sensitivity of the application market.

That is, it is useless to add ten Wu Zuhua together, and it is impossible to see the future development trend of the market with the same open person.

It's just that the dream of a desktop PC that you can't forget, is it really that difficult?

Wu Zuhua saw from the clues of Liu Ruoyi's communication that the other party basically did not have much interest in desktop PCs.

So after going out, Wu Zuhua looked at the cloudy sky of Xiangjiang very sadly.