"I noticed that Yuehua has a lot of literary films in the film list in recent years, does it represent a change in the focus of Yuehua's shooting?"

“… No, our main focus is still on mainstream commercial films, but we also encourage new directors to try new storytelling techniques, after all, the film market is mature enough..."

Zhang Junsheng smiled and waved his hand, and continued: "The reason why I used to dislike literary films is because the market is full of literary films, which is not right, a mature film market, the existence of "literary films" is very necessary, because this is the basis for ensuring the cultural genetic diversity of films, and all kinds of non-mainstream and avant-garde techniques may develop into the mainstream in the future. However, if the mainstream itself does not exist, all kinds of unconventional things can only be a circus. ”

"The year before last, director Wang Xiaoshuai publicly criticized the theatrical schedule because of his movie "The Intruder", do you think it makes sense?"

“… It makes sense, he spent money to make a movie, and of course he hopes to recover the cost through the market..."

Fang Xiaomin seized the opportunity: "So you also think that the living environment of today's literary films is very bad?"

Glancing at her, Zhang Junsheng spoke: "I drank once with Meng Ji, the chairman of the film festival jury, and he said a few words, I think it's good." ”

"1: I really didn't expect you to have so many directors in China. ”

"2: Romania is much worse than your China. 90% of it is Hollywood. ”

"3: What kind of money do art films make, why do you all regard art films as a social phenomenon in China, and it will exceed 100 million, which is terrible. ”

"4: Commercial films should make good money, otherwise theaters won't be able to do it. ”

"From the perspective of the theater chain, "Intruder" does not make money, so it will not be scheduled, which is very fair... After all, director Wang Xiaoshuai's works have basically not been a big seller..."

“… So how do you think this situation should be changed?

“… Who paid for the construction of the country?

"But you also said that literary films are necessary!"

Zhang Junsheng spread his hands speechlessly: "It's necessary, but there is a problem with the audience!"

"Actually, in terms of subject matter, "The God of Medicine" also belongs to literary films, but it is a big hit, so many people classify it as a commercial film..."

"I'm particularly disgusted by some filmmakers, who have a sense of being on top of the crowd and feel like they're artists, but in fact, it's always been the case that popular culture has hit niche culture. ”

"Most people watch movies just for fun and fun, do you have to let me watch your movies with depth and connotation, I don't want to watch them, do I have to be blamed by you?

“

Some people say that movies are originally the stuff of a few people of insight, and it seems that movies are a very remarkable thing, preaching and teaching to solve doubts, and to correct the righteousness of the world. It seems that people who like commercial films and superficial and vulgar movies are ignorant people, while those who like cold and philosophical movies are people of insight who promote social progress and improve the public's aesthetics. Let's not talk about whether this is the case, whether or not you like different types of movies is a person of insight, let's assume that these few so-called people of insight are philosophers, reformers, and even prophets, who are the leaders. But does this have anything to do with the box office and film scheduling?"

"In this world, prophets, philosophers, who have contributed to the development of society, are a minority, noble people, pure people, people who are detached from low tastes, okay, I admit. Such a person, why do you have to compete with ordinary people who is a traffic star and who has more Weibo fans... I don't understand it a bit. The box office really doesn't tell the artistic level of a movie, and I haven't said that. The box office only proves the popularity of a movie!"

"I never said that high-end art films are not as good as vulgar commercial films?"

"What I've been saying is that it's two different tracks and shouldn't be judged by the same criteria. High-end art films, high-end positioning, small audience is natural, do not compare with commercial films at the box office. Theaters are guided by box office revenue, and there is nothing wrong with scheduling films, so why can't anyone understand it?"

"Film, as an art form, is similar to literature. ”

"No one has ever thought that academic papers in serious literature, pure literature, or the humanities are less successful than Harry Potter and Little Times. However, will bookstores put those difficult and serious literary and academic works in the most conspicuous position? Will they put such books on a large scale? You may not be able to find such books in a bookstore. Even if you search the Internet, you won't necessarily find this kind of book!"

"The author of this kind of book should come out and scold this class of readers, bookstores, and the general environment? You are high-end, you should go to the high-end circle to show it. When you take on the responsibility of preaching and teaching, you go to people who are willing to listen to your preaching. As for most people, reading books and movies is just for fun and entertainment. Bookstores and cinemas are for-profit institutions that satisfy these people. ”

"You feel like you're a high-end movie, it's a very artistic movie, don't come to the theater, you go to the academy, you go to the film festival, you go to your high-end circle. When you come to the theater, please respect the market choice. What can I say about serious literature compared to popular literature in terms of sales, scholarly works and bestsellers in comparison to readers?"

"Having said that, as an art film, your value and your connotation are reflected in the artistry, not in the box office. If you watch a commercial film with a higher box office than you, you scold the street, the audience is not good, and the theater is not good, which can only show that you are not confident enough in your artistic value. Will the People's Daily go to compare with Da Mi Mi who has more fans? It won't blame the hot search for always pushing small fresh meat every day, not pushing the current political news, right?"

After saying a bunch of words in one breath, Zhang Junsheng picked up the teacup and took a sip...

Fang Xiaomin sighed secretly, anyone can tell the truth, but this involves profits...

"So, do you think literary films shouldn't be on the market?"

“… Let's put it this way, in the first half of this year, Yuehua released five literary films, "August", "Kailash", "Eighteen Cave Village", "Eight Years Old That Year", "My Heart Jumps", the total box office of these five works is close to 400 million, of which "Kailash" and "Eighteen Cave Village" The box office of the two films has exceeded 100 million, and the box office of last year's "July and Ansheng" is close to 400 million.

I didn't want to say it so resolutely, but in the end I couldn't hold back...

……

After that, the topic is more divergent...

"When you're proficient in filmmaking, how do you deal with actors? Many actors think you're a very good communicator..."

“… Generally speaking, the actors I choose are suitable for me, and if they are not suitable, I still use them, isn't that a slap in the face?"

"Every time your film is released, there will be crazy publicity," Fang Xiaomin turned to the industry she is engaged in, "What kind of considerations do you have about the power of journalism?"

"I've learned a lot about the media, they can be crazy, they can be like hungry sharks..."Zhang Junsheng smiled: "So, now that the movie is promoted, I am generally reluctant to accept media interviews!"

"There are a lot of directors who have put forward their top 10 films," Fang Xiaomin asked, "Can you tell me about the list of the top 10 movies in your mind? ”

"'Daydreamer,' 'Burst Drummer,' 'The Godfather,' 'Flying House', 'Back to Back, Face to Face,' 'Red Sorghum', 'Hero,' 'Thief of Time,' 'Purple Sun,' 'Hibiscus Town' are too many..."

Fang Xiaomin's gaze fell on Zhang Junsheng's left hand, which was a men's diamond ring, and asked tentatively, "Is this an engagement ring?"

"Hmm. ”

"Is it with Liu Sisi?"

“… Yes, we should be getting married next year!"

"Congratulations," Fang Xiaomin wanted to ask something, Zhang Junsheng waved his hand, and ended with this topic, so she changed the topic: "Do you have any new plans for the next few years?"

“… I should continue to make films, but of course I will focus more on other areas..."

"Other areas?"

"Life, movies are movies, life is life..."

This is the end of the interview, Zhang Junsheng shook hands with Fang Xiaomin, politely declined the invitation to dine, and left the room directly.

"Let's go!"

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