Chapter 830 European and American countries do not engage in subsidies

After receiving Han Nanbin's instructions, Jiang Zhong did not delay for a moment, and immediately contacted Heinzl, the sales specialist of Prometheus Company, who was waiting for news in Yicheng, and agreed to meet in a café.

When Jiang Zhong arrived at the café with an interpreter, Heinzl had already arrived first, and was sitting in a private room, slowly sipping a cup of coffee. Jiang Zhong and the translator entered the private room, sat down opposite Heinzl, instructed the waiter who followed them to serve them a cup of coffee and a cup of orange juice, and then told the waiter to close the door of the private room and not enter at will without being summoned, and then began to introduce the current situation to Heinzl.

"You mean, the Chinese government is putting pressure on you?" asked Heinzl, who listened to Jiang Zhong's account and looked at the newspapers that Jiang Zhong had brought. He didn't know Chinese characters, and the contents of these newspapers were also introduced to him by Jiang Zhong. Jiang Zhong also asked the translator to translate a few paragraphs for Heinzl so that Heinzl would know what had happened.

Jiang Zhong said: "Exactly. The state equipment industry company I am talking about is a department of our country that specializes in the development and coordination of major technical equipment, and although it is an enterprise, it undertakes the function of administrative management, and we are regarded as a subordinate unit, and we cannot confront them. ”

"In other words, you will abandon Prometheus' equipment and use Chenyu's equipment instead. ”

"If there is no turnaround, I am afraid this is the result. ”

"Turnaround?" Heinzl keenly grasped the mystery in Jiang Zhong's words. Jiang Zhong hurriedly asked him to meet him, definitely not to inform him of the news of Pu Da's game. If he really wants to let Pu Da play the game, Jiang Zhong can completely let the people below deliver the words. Since Jiang Zhong personally asked him to talk, he naturally had other ideas. And the "turning point" that Jiang Zhong said at this time is probably the highlight of today's meeting.

Jiang Zhong also had no intention of going around in circles, he knew that the Germans were a bit of an axis, and it might be self-defeating to go around too many circles with them. He lowered his voice and said, "Yes, Mr. Heinzl, to tell you the truth, our general manager has great trust in your company's equipment, and he instructed us to do our best to make your company win the bid." Now the state equipment company is putting pressure on us, and we have no way to refuse. But if you intervene, things will take a turn for the better. ”

"How can we intervene?" Heinzl asked, "the state equipment company you mentioned, I have dealt with them in the past. They were very unfriendly to us and very tough, and I fear that if we go straight to the table, they might not even give us a chance to speak. ”

"We Chinese have an old saying, which is called to treat others the way of others, and have you heard of Mr. Heinzl?" Jiang Zhong asked.

The translator grinned, and finally translated this sentence into German, and by the time he said it to Heinzl, the charm had already disappeared. However, Heinzl understood, he looked at Jiang Zhong and asked, "What do you mean, how can we use their methods against them?"

"Newspapers!" Jiang Zhong said, "they didn't actually negotiate with us directly, but put pressure on us through newspapers." China's domestic newspapers are now controlled by them, and we can't get them to question the country's policies. But your German newspapers have no such taboo. Could you please contact the German newspapers and find out about them, so that we can have a chance to speak. ”

Heinzl thought for a while and asked, "Mr. Jiang, you just said that the Chinese government is putting pressure on you, is there any evidence?"

"These newspapers are proof of that. Jiang Zhong said.

"I'm afraid this is not enough evidence. Heinzl said.

Jiang Zhong said: "Mr. Heinzl, you don't understand the national conditions of our country. One thing is in the newspapers, and it is a very serious matter. You see, although these newspapers did not directly name it, they also said that it was a certain subway engineering company in the north, which is actually hinting at our company. The leaders of our province have seen these newspapers and are now asking us about the situation. ”

Heinzl shook his head and said, "This is just your internal rule, and if you want to talk about it in the media, it will not constitute evidence." You say that the Chinese government favors domestic equipment in the bidding for projects, is there any evidence that can be obtained?"

Jiang Zhong said without thinking: "That's the first set of policies, this is clearly written in black and white." ”

"How is it written?" asked Heinzl.

Jiang Zhong took the document issued by the National Development and Reform Commission with him, immediately took it out, and asked the translator to explain it to Heinzl one by one. Heinzl took out a small notebook and recorded it while listening, and when he had listened to it all, he frowned and said, "Mr. Jiang, this policy issued by your government is very cunning. The document only says that when the equipment conditions of China and foreign countries are equal, Chinese enterprises should give priority to the purchase of domestic equipment, and cannot refuse domestic equipment on the grounds of lack of application experience, which does not violate international rules. Because international trade agreements do not stipulate that the bidding for equipment must require the other party to have application experience, your government has the intention to protect its own enterprises, but there is no substantial evidence. ”

"Is the issuance of a document requiring priority in the procurement of domestically produced equipment considered a discriminatory policy?" Jiang Zhong asked.

This has similar regulations in many countries, and TO allows it. ”

"So, is there a problem that the national property insurance company specifically provides insurance for these first sets of equipment?"

"It's even less of a problem. Insurance is a business practice, and businesses spend their own money to buy insurance, which is a completely compliant thing. ”

"Wait, you just said that it's completely compliant for companies to spend their own money on insurance. So, if the money to buy insurance is not paid by the company, but subsidized by the state, is this considered a violation?"

"State subsidy?" Heinzl's ears stood up suddenly, making people suspect that he grew up eating carrots, "What do you say, the first set of insurance purchased by Chinese companies was subsidized by the government?"

"That's right, everyone in the industry knows about it. Jiang Zhong said.

"Do you have proof?"

"This ......"

Jiang Zhong was dumbfounded, he suddenly found that when the NDRC issued a document on the first set of insurance, it really didn't say anything about state subsidies. In fact, people in the industry have passed on this issue, and some employees of property insurance companies have come out to say that there is such a thing.

Jiang Zhong clearly remembers that a friend analyzed with him that the property insurance company is losing money in this project, because according to the results calculated by the actuary, the first set of insurance needs to reach 30% of the transaction price of the equipment, and the property insurance company can protect the capital, but in fact, the premium paid by these manufacturing companies only accounts for 2% of the transaction price, and the middle part is all subsidized by the state.

However, all this information does not exist on the file. Property and casualty insurance companies directly launched such a type of insurance, and the National Development and Reform Commission requires that the manufacturing enterprises of the first set of equipment must be insured, which is all the content of the document. What kind of state subsidies and the like, it's just a word of mouth, whether it's true or not, Jiang Zhong can't be sure.

"There must be this. Jiang Zhong tried his best to prove his honesty in tone, saying: "Everyone knows that the first set of equipment is not mature enough. In case there is a problem in the use of the equipment, such as the shield machine, in case the quality of the product of Chenyu company is not up to standard, resulting in a construction accident, such as the line is missed, or the building on the ground is shaken, resulting in the collapse of the building, the loss is very large, and the compensation for the equipment is not enough. At present, property insurance companies only charge 2% of insurance, isn't this obviously a loss-making thing? If there is no state subsidy behind this, I don't believe it. ”

Heinzl shrugged his shoulders and said, "Mr. Jiang, I understand your feelings very well, and I fully agree with your judgment. But if we can't find evidence, the media will not dare to report on such speculation. Because the Chinese government can use these reports to sue them for defamation, I don't think any media outlet wants to get into such trouble. ”

"But, where can I find evidence for this kind of thing?" Jiang Zhong said distressedly.

"Is there anyone who was personally involved in this and can provide some witnesses?" Heinzl reminded.

Jiang Zhong said: "This is too difficult. This type of insurance was launched by the national property insurance company, and I heard that the National Development and Reform Commission participated in the design, and the Ministry of Finance also came forward. Besides, even if I find them, they won't tell the truth, unless they are ...... Hey, I'm thinking of someone. ”

"Who?"

"A professor of the National Academy of Social Sciences, called Professor Gao, what is the name......" Jiang Zhong's eyes showed a look of confusion.

Heinzl asked, "Do you know this professor?" and what do you think this professor can help us?"

Jiang Zhong said: "Here's the thing. Last month, our company invited this professor Gao to the company to give a report, in which he criticized the NDRC's first set of policies. He also said that the state has subsidized more than 1 billion yuan for this policy, just to support those domestic equipment whose technology is not up to standard, and the purpose is to put gold on the faces of leaders. He also said that you European and American countries will never subsidize enterprises, and only backward countries like us like to engage in subsidies......"

"Uh......" Heinzl's face was a little embarrassed. What kind of professor is this special meow, he actually said that European and American countries never subsidize enterprises. Not to mention, just to subsidize Airbus, the EU almost went bankrupt, and it has been fighting lawsuits with the Americans for more than a decade. Of course, the United States is not a good thing either, accusing the EU of subsidizing Airbus and Boeing with a lot of money. Everyone on the earth knows these things, this Professor Gao that Jiang Zhong said just came back from Mars?