Time flies quickly, almost a month has passed, and for Sha Zhengyang, the passage of time means that his work and life are fulfilling.

After receiving the task, he and a group of people quickly divided the labor.

Two people are responsible for the basic collection of the basic situation of the large enterprises under the jurisdiction of the entire large enterprise working committee, which originally had basic information, but it is necessary to determine the goal according to Sha Zhengyang and Cai Zheng, important industries, key areas and core directions, and some of the future is not lost in the scope of these three, then it is possible to open up and enter all-round competition, and now it has not been included, or even a blank, so it is necessary to find a way to promote the large state-owned enterprises related to it to enter through various ways.

Thorough investigation and screening is the most basic work, but at the same time, it is necessary to determine the areas that large state-owned enterprises should occupy and enter and dominate, and Sha Zhengyang himself is personally responsible for taking two people to grasp this work.

This needs to be coordinated with the State Development and Planning Commission, the State Economic and Trade Commission, the State Science and Technology Commission, and the Commission of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense, and must be in line with the country's future development strategy.

"The Development Research Center of the State Council got in touch, they are still a little unfamiliar with our unit, and some of the ideas and opinions we put forward they also think are very innovative, but they seem to think that we are a bit arrogant, thinking that this should be determined at a higher level, and should not be pointed at by our family. ”

Cai Zheng couldn't help but start complaining when he stepped into the office: "These people, they don't do it themselves, and they feel that others are doing something wrong, and they say something sour, which is too boring." ”

"Yes, with such an attitude, what more can you ask for?" Sha Zhengyang took the initiative to hand the teacup to the other party, "It's better than the State Development and Planning Commission, okay?" The attitude of the people seems to be enthusiastic, but in fact, they don't want to pay attention to us at all, in their opinion, many of us are from the Central Organization Department and the Ministry of Personnel, since it is the Working Committee, it must be the management of people and cadres and the organization, when is it our turn to worry about the development of specific industries, isn't this to rob them of their jobs? Until now, I haven't given a quasi-letter, and then Director Wei made a special phone call with their leaders, only to say that we should study it first to see which specific department should be docked, and give a reply next week. ”

"Hey, this is probably the characteristics of our national conditions, right?" Cai Zheng also sighed, "A lot of work, who should do it, there is no clear, it seems that anyone can manage, everyone should manage, but when it is really implemented in which department unit, there is no clear division of rights and responsibilities, and it can be said that it is only a temporary strategy, whether the effect is good or not, and what the final result is, it is really difficult to say." ”

"It's normal, Kowloon controls the water, and the result is that no one can manage it well, and it can't be cured, of course, this also has a lot to do with the rapid changes and development of the times. Going back 20 years, can you imagine that there will be such tremendous changes? Tremendous changes are constantly bringing new problems, and you can only solve the new problems through continuous reform, but we hope to be more forward-looking in studying and solving these problems, and not to change the order overnight and make the people at a loss. ”

"Well, Kowloon controls the water? Cai Zheng thoughtfully, "Lao Huang's progress is not bad, the basic information has been erected, now we need to delineate specific areas, like some important industries, I think everyone has no meaning, such as energy, finance, military industry, there is nothing to say, but like some more general, it is more controversial." ”

"Well, I know it's definitely worth discussing, and it's probably going to be controversial in terms of how to deal with it. "Sha Zhengyang had expected this for a long time," to be specific. ”

"For example, high-end equipment manufacturing, cutting-edge materials, chips, information industry, these are more difficult, first, this range is very large, second, foreign capital and private enterprises in these areas have shown vigor and strong competitiveness, state-owned enterprises to deal with their competition, how to maintain their advantages? Third, in some industries, the disadvantages of state-owned enterprises will be very prominent, such as the information industry, the more flexible mechanism of private enterprises and their keenness of smell make them like fish in water, while state-owned enterprises are a little clumsy in this regard.

I have to say that Cai Zheng's insight and analytical judgment ability is still quite powerful, Sha Zhengyang and he have discussed related industries, such as high-end equipment manufacturing and cutting-edge materials industry, this is the cornerstone of China's industry in the future, these two pieces are lacking, then everything will become a tree without roots and no source of water, but the scope of these two pieces is too large.

Perhaps state-owned scientific research institutes have a strong strength in R&D strength, but how should they operate in order to transform R&D strength into real productive forces? Should they cooperate with state-owned enterprises, or should they cooperate with foreign capital and private enterprises in an eclectic manner?

Cooperation with state-owned enterprises is old-fashioned, advantages and disadvantages are very obvious, cooperation with foreign capital, the risk is greater, cooperation with private enterprises, should be the latest breakthrough, but there are many advantages and disadvantages, especially in what way to cooperate, this needs to be discussed, and in this cooperation, state-owned enterprises and state-owned capital can be added to become a booster and catalyst?

In addition, in the information industry, Sha Zhengyang also mentioned that the information industry will be very critical in the future, and this information industry is in a broad sense, not only limited to computer-related industries, but also includes a wider range of knowledge-based economy industries.

Cai Zheng was very interested in Sha Zhengyang's proposal that the information industry should be classified as the fourth industry in addition to the tertiary industry, and the two of them discussed it for a long time, of course, Cai Zheng did not fully agree with Sha Zhengyang's point of view, and believed that some of Sha Zhengyang's ideas were too vague, and more were classified in the tertiary industry.

This concept is also a forward-looking concept, and Sha Zhengyang himself is also specious, but he believes that with the development of society, perhaps the concept of the fourth industry will gradually take shape.

"Brother Zheng, how to solve these problems, I'm afraid it is not for you and me to sit in the office and spend a few days to solve, we can only put forward some ideas and ideas, and by the way, we can also have some of our own suggestions, but because this involves the development of the entire industry, we are a large enterprise working committee, we can only consider the problem from the jurisdiction of the large enterprise working committee, if you extend it, well, is it possible to include large enterprises and state-owned capital and other enterprises of other nature and form of cooperation in these fields for studyI think so. ”

Sha Zhengyang's words were a little twisty, and even Cai Zheng was a little confused.

"Zhengyang, can you be more specific, give an example. Cai Zheng couldn't help but ask.

"Let me give you an example. For example, the chip industry, or for example, the sub-category represented by the computer operating system, everyone knows that this is the diamond in the crown of the information industry, the important weapon of the country, and cannot be in the hands of others, but we are facing the absolute leading advantage of Europe and the United States in this area, how to solve this dilemma?" Sha Zhengyang asked.

Cai Zheng probably understood what the other party meant, and nodded, "I understand what you mean, do you think that this kind of industry is led by the state and has a huge investment, but the effect may not be good? There will be some other negative effects?"

"Yes, these themselves are purely produced from the combination of laboratory and market economy subdivided industries, in the United States, this combination, coupled with the development of venture capital, makes its combination very perfect, but in our country is obviously a few beats slower, with the development of the information industry in the future, this kind of opportunity will continue to emerge, we did not seize the front, so how to seize the back?" Sha Zhengyang groaned: " It is unlikely that our country will suddenly learn from the United States, because the national conditions are different and the level of economic development is different, but we also have some other things that we can learn from, such as Singapore's Temasek model,......"

Sha Zhengyang's words made Cai Zheng very sensitive, and he immediately said: "Aren't CICC and SDIC already trying to do this?"

"It's not enough, and to be honest, it's not good enough. The corners of Sha Zhengyang's mouth showed a smile, "If the state invests a huge amount of money and becomes an enterprise dedicated to making profits, what is the point? Focusing on finance, energy, and infrastructure construction is not to say that it can't be done, and it is indeed good for economic development, but it lacks a strategic view of the overall situation and a sense of responsibility, or they are subconsciously avoiding risks, because the emerging high-end strategic industries are very risky, and they are unwilling to bear them, but you are not willing to bear them, who will bear them?" China still lacks a time period to make the transition, and it will take time for the private capital to grow and adopt the market economy model to allow the private economy to enter these sectors,......

"Do you mean that there should be enterprises in state-owned enterprises that are not for profit but for the purpose of supporting strategic industries?" Cai Zheng asked in a deep voice.

"Probably this idea, not for the purpose of profit, then how to survive this enterprise? is also a problem, including how to assess our large enterprise working committee, it is very tricky, so this still needs to seek a balance, but it can be clear that profit is not the main goal, but to promote the breakthrough development of strategic industries and key core areas determined by the state as the main goal, but this specific division is another problem, only slowly to explore and study, and it is impossible for us to have the final say. Sha Zhengyang sighed.