Gu Biao's self-denial was justified, so that the people of the Wall Street Journal could not find direct evidence to accuse him of an immediate attempt to enter the field of personal computers.

In the end, the other party could only deceive his attitude: "But as far as I know, Mr. Wang An, the founder of Wang An Computer, is now seriously ill. Although he passed the position of CEO to his son, the handover was not stable because of his poor performance.

At the same time, Tiankun Company has recruited rebels and hired Mr. John Chambers, the former CMO of the company who opposed Wang An's power decision-making most fiercely last year, all of which has to make people suspect that at least you have a plot to poach Wang An's company!"

When Edmund of the Wall Street Journal said this, he was trying to catch a hint of panic in Gu Biao's eyes and expressions.

However, he saw a fleeting, undetectable relief.

"I said, they want to break their heads, and they can't guess that my ambition is so big: I want to take advantage of Wang An's computer after the stock market crash to take Wang An's life and directly merge Wang An's computer.

In their opinion, based on all the clues that can be found so far, it is estimated that 'I want to dig into the corners of Wang An's computer on a large scale and in an organized manner, steal the technology within the scope of the confidentiality agreement, and take away the entire technical team'. ”

The above is naturally Gu Biao's inner monologue.

was misunderstood by the other party as just wanting to poach organized and large-scale talents, but Gu Biao relaxed instead.

That's fine, if they can't guess anything, it will only lead them to continue to guess. Let them think that they have guessed a half-understood, but they can completely stop.

So, after a short period of relief, Gu Biao forcibly squeezed out a few traces of "I seem to have been debunked" expression, and admitted with an embarrassed face:

"Talent problem, of course, is also very important, Wang An computer is one of the benchmarks in the field of electronic technology, from Wang An to leave the technical talents, of course, is also very valuable to Tian Kun, versatility is very strong, this is needless to say. ”

Edmund didn't expect Gu Biao to admit it like this, and was a little surprised: "So, will Tiankun carry out the transfer of industrial layout?" As far as I know, judging from the current public information, some technicians who left after Wang An's internal reshuffle last year were assigned to Tiankun's R&D headquarters in China with high salaries after going to Tiankun to re-inaugurate. I wonder if Mr. Gu has anything to explain to the American investment community?"

Gu Biao smiled: "As far as I know, the three major automobiles have also set up joint ventures in several cities with a good automobile industry foundation in China. One step further, UTC has also set up a factory in China, and it is located in my hometown, Qiantang, where Tiankun's Chinese R&D headquarters is located. The arrangement of the Tiankun is also a purely commercial consideration like the UTC or the three major automobiles, taking advantage of China's relatively cost-effective human resource costs. ”

Edmund: "But the big three cars in China are using workers, and you're transferring programmers!"

Gu Biao: "Are programmers particularly noble? So noble that only the highly educated labor force of developed countries can train programmers? The times are developing, and the demand for programmers and electronic engineers in the future may be ten times and a hundred times that of the present.

At that time, the scale of society's demand for programmers may be one or two orders of magnitude lower than that of workers, and it is impossible to be three or four orders of magnitude less than workers as it is now, which is a hundredfold progress. So it's normal for me to be concerned about the labor cost gap for programmers, and there is no problem of hollowing out certain industries in the United States.

All I can say is that I know China better than most other American entrepreneurs. Other American tech entrepreneurs don't know the level of education in China, and may think that English education is not even widespread there, and there are not enough good programmers to test the waters. And I just see better than they can use these resources in advance. ”

This truth is completely blameless, and the other party will not be entangled.

Edmund put away his pen and notebook: "Gu, I'm glad you accepted our interview today. However, I have been entrusted with a conversation that I hope you can accept and make some comments, you know, as a top public figure in the business community in China and the United States, there are a lot of important people who are interested in your views on the development of the relationship between China and the United States. ”

"I don't care about politics, I think we'd better end here. Gu Biao shrugged, "And if you want to talk about those issues, just look at the book "On China" that I co-authored with my mentor, and all my gains are based on that, and I never cared about international relations again." ”

Edmund: "It's not actually my business, it's something that McNamas and my mentor know, so I'll take it with me, and I can promise not to publish it in the open media, but only as academic research." You know, there are a lot of your friends here in the United States, and they are for your good, after all, you don't have American citizenship, and as a foreigner, if you don't have an unclear attitude, you get involved too much in the American technology industry......"

"Since you don't record and don't disclose it in the newspapers, then leave it to me to deal with it myself. Gu Biao nodded politely and got up to see off the guests.

He knew that there were some things that he couldn't hide, and it was good to find an opportunity to make them clear. Since the Persian Gate, the Americans have indeed intensified their efforts and like to divert the American people's criticism of Li Gen and Lao Immortal.

……

After Gu Biao sent off the people from the Wall Street Journal, he immediately called his former mentor.

Of course, the other party is now a semi-retired consultant in the consulting company, and he usually doesn't take care of things.

"You can say whatever you want, if you want to poach or even buy American technology companies, you will definitely dig deep into your attitude, if I do this, it will be unfair, so I will talk about it by top China experts from other universities."

If you relax, just think that you want to immigrate before how to deceive the visa officer. We at the Georgetown Walled School of Diplomacy are not as good as the people at the Harvard Fairbank Research Center?"

"I see. ”

People came to New York from Boston, and they stayed at the Plaza Hotel, and it was not good to dry for too long. So after Gu Biao had lunch, he accepted the other party's appointment non-stop and entered the "defense" of the continuous rotation.

"Mr. Gu, it's a pleasure to be able to talk to you for the first time, contemptible Vogel, this is my assistant Song Yimin, I think this meeting will provide us with excellent material for studying the China issue. ”

"Hello Professor Fu, good Professor Song. Gu Biao doesn't care about the other party's title, he calls the professor very face-saving, quite Chinese-style.

The other party also seems to be very adaptable, and seems to be accustomed to the social inertia of thinking about problems in the Chinese style, and both sides speak Chinese.

Don't look at these two Harvard professors, one surnamed Fu and the other surnamed Song, but they are all real people, but those sinologists in the United States have the habit of taking a Chinese name, just like Fairbank wants to call Fairbank. {Fairbank's original name in English was John King Fairbank}

Professor Vogel is now director of the Fairbank Center at Harvard University. The Fairbank Research Center is Harvard's Center for East Asian Studies, and after Fairbank retired ten years ago, he changed to Fairbank's name.

The Xiao Song next to him is now only an associate professor, only in his early 30s, and is Professor Fu's assistant.

In later generations, there were also some jokes about Professor Vogel in China, which could not be called jokes, but should be said to be true anecdotes.

It is said that in the late 80s and early 90s, when some officials who were only local officials at the provincial level in China went to Harvard for exchanges, a white professor stood up and asked: What do you think China should learn from Yuben?

The Chinese dignitary replied, "At Harvard, you still need to ask me such a question?" You should ask Vogel.

Then the audience couldn't hold back a low chuckle, until someone secretly told the local dignitary on the Chinese side: The white man who asked you just now is Vogel.

It can be seen that at that time, Director Fu was already an American expert who best understood East Asian issues in the eyes of the Chinese.

Of course, the Fairbank Research Center at Harvard focuses on different issues than the Center for Research at the Georgetown Waltz School of Foreign Service, with the former focusing more on history and sociology, while the latter focuses on international relations and the potential of diplomacy.

After Vogel sat down with Gu Biao, he began to casually talk about Chinese and American cultural identity and cultural misunderstanding. Gu Biao also knows that the two people in front of him may be equivalent to the "visa officer" of some of his subsequent capital actions in the United States.

Although the law does not stipulate his obligation to cooperate, it is better to make the other party sincerely believe that Gu Biao sincerely believes that China and the United States can cooperate for a long time.

After chatting for about 15 minutes, Vogel took the lead in asking the first aggressive question: "Gu, you and I are among the few people in the world who know the similarities and differences between China and the United States the most." In the current context, where do you think the greatest possibility of friction between China and the United States due to cultural misunderstanding is the greatest possibility?"

The other side also did not say that it began this year, and the Americans wanted to do something a little, but only said that it was a cultural misunderstanding.

Gu Biao thought for a while: "I think the biggest problem for Americans is that they have never tried to understand a civilization that has not repeated the history of the game. But on the contrary, in the seven or eight years since opening up, we Chinese have fully understood the framework of repeated games. The differences in this can easily lead to the US side gaining an inch, while we Chinese people have always been peace-loving and hope to seek common ground while reserving differences for stable development. ”

Vogel thought for a while, fell into silence for a while, and then said: "I didn't expect that what you paid most attention to was actually this point, and you chose to interpret the weight of the two countries' mutual testing from the historical accumulation of the two countries and whether there is a basis for the inheritance of repeated games? The Chinese are really very wary of history. ”6