From Zhang Yifu's point of view, the most pressure in this argument should be the discussion group on water and soil resources and geology, as an expert member in power generation and transmission, on the matter, only talk about their own profession, there will be no reason not to sign, unwilling to take responsibility, Wang Ying is so unreasonable, regardless of face and identity opposition, I am afraid that it is because of the opposition in the big position, not power technology.

Therefore, she knows all the truths of everyone better than anyone else, but she has no choice but to oppose it in a professional way in this way.

Thinking about the power, if the upper-level leaders want to absolutely control the "number of experts who refuse to sign", the calm power discussion group will suddenly come out with a moth, and it will definitely be miserable, and this pressure will eventually fall on the heads of the discussion team leaders and deputy leaders.

Interestingly, in the results of the argument in the previous life, out of more than 400 experts, only 9 people refused to sign, 9, what a delicate number, just did not reach two digits, intriguing, presumably this is the result of countless ideological work.

Wang Ying's mention of Sanmenxia led to a long silence in the room, which was a sensitive topic and indeed a rebuttal for the opponents, after all, nothing could be more convincing than the facts.

The first dam of the Yellow River, Sanmenxia Dam, is the first comprehensive large-scale water conservancy hub in China with the goals of flood control, flood prevention, water supply, irrigation and power generation. Sanmenxia is to the Yellow River, that is, Sanxi is to the Yangtze River, and they are so similar in terms of politics, technology, situation, and controversy.

The Sanmenxia Dam was built in the period of great leap and progress, and just hearing the words "great leap and advance" is enough to make people think about it, and the spirit of that period was to spare no effort to develop the productive forces in isolation from reality, and to engage in "one word hall" in government. It was in such a historical environment that our country cooperated with the Soviets. The first dam of the Yellow River was built in the late 50s and early 60s.

There are also opposing voices in Sanmenxia, but they are not as strict as Sanxi, and the reason is very simple, after all, the people who dare to go against Taizu in the real sense are a minority, and the experts who speak against Taizu at that time are not famous. Not for profit, but for the conscience of heaven and earth, those books they read for themselves, their names have also been remembered by history and have always been respected.

After the dam was completed in 1961, the controversy and the pros and cons are still unclear to this day, the only thing that is certain is that the amount of sediment deposited in the Yellow River was underestimated at the time. He also underestimated the knock-on impact of such a dam on the environment, surrounding provinces and cities, especially the upstream, and later admitted in diplomatic forums that "we really fought an unprepared battle" and "did not have a scientific attitude", and also affirmed those opponents whose voices were suppressed.

So far, many problems such as flooding in the upper reaches of the Yellow River have been pinned on the head of Sanmenxia, and some people have even thrown the pot of the "75.8" dam failure far away to Sanmenxia, and even the disputes between provinces have been thrown far away. Occasionally, this dam is used as an outlet, and many people are eager to blow up the dam as soon as possible. At the moment of this argument. Sanmenxia will naturally be used to talk about things.

Realistically speaking, in terms of engineering design, Sanmenxia does have unscientific places, on the one hand, it is in a hurry, on the other hand, the technology provided by Lao Maozi is really immature, and it has been rebuilt twice soon after it is put into production. This does pose a danger of being too small.

However, when it comes to the floods of the Yellow River for thousands of years, it is really unclear whether Sanmenxia is good or bad, and it seems that the final argument is still that the merits outweigh the faults, and the flood control is still important. The accumulation of experience has played a key role.

Taking a step back, if Sanmenxia is really a scourge, keeping it before Sanxi is completed, it can be said that it is for Sanxi to prove that it can pass guò, and after 10 years of stable operation of Sanxi, this dam from nearly 60 years ago is still standing there, which shows that it still has the significance of existing, after all, our party has calmly faced some mistakes made in the past few decades, and has also made a final conclusion about Taizu's merits and demerits.

But no matter what, it is impossible for the minds of the people in the venue to be so emancipated at this time, and Sanmenxia is indeed a kind of trauma in a certain way, and the trauma to the water conservancy and hydropower people comes from that period of history and from the unreliable old Maozi.

In the silence, Yue Yunhe sighed, this breath was not only a sigh to Sanmenxia, but also meant that he had almost given up the last fight for Wang Ying.

Many of them sighed slightly.

Wang Ying also slowed down her tone a little, and said to Xia Xue: "Xiao Xia, there was something wrong with my attitude just now, maybe I was too excited and too resolute, and I shouldn't bring my attitude towards your father to you." ”

This move is a little moving, although she is very stubborn, but she is still reasonable, after all, she is a university professor.

Xia Xue also took a step: "I also have a problem with my attitude, I didn't control it, thank you Professor Wang for your forgiveness." ”

The atmosphere finally relaxed a little, and Wang Ying also smiled with relief: "Look, you are better than your father at this point, you know how to bow your head and be humble, although this mouth is not far behind......"

Many people laughed along, there is always a lot in common between father and daughter, but there is always something clear, this is the interesting thing about human beings.

"Okay, then let's hurry up, the next topic ......" Yue Yunhe finally waved his hand, ready to put down these things.

But there is one person who has not given up the last hope.

"Professor Yue, can you give me 5 minutes too? Zhang Yifu asked very sincerely.

Yue Yunhe was slightly stunned, and then looked at Zou Shiliang.

Zou Shiliang sighed and nodded.

Obviously, he was going to close the door and let Yifu go, but unexpectedly let Xia Xue come out, and now the bite is over, what new tricks can you come up with, but it doesn't matter, whoever fights with Wang Ying has no result.

"They are all junior comrades sent by the ministry, so we naturally have to treat them all equally and give them all opportunities. Yue Yunhe smiled indifferently, "This is Zhang Yifu from the North China Electric Power Authority, if you have an opinion, please say." ”

When Zhang Yifu got up, he felt that his arm was pulled by Xia Xue.

Turning his head, Xia Xue shook his head silently, signaling him not to attack Wang Ying, and there was no need to stand up for himself.

Zhang Yifu smiled gently, he would not bite indiscriminately if he was so cowardly.

Zhang Yifu, who stood up, first sighed: "First of all, I understand Professor Wang very well, before joining the work, I stood on the same position with Professor Wang, and my ideas were very superficial, and I definitely didn't think about it as much as Professor Wang." At that time, I thought, our country has a huge land and resources, so we lack the capacity of 20 million in Sanxi? Thermal power can't keep up? Wind power can't get up? Do we have to stop it on the Yangtze River?"

Although Zhang Yifu's reasoning is vulgar, it is actually the most down-to-earth, and after the experts have been talking all day long, it is quite useful to hear such a simple and solid argument.

Wang Ying also showed a kind face: "Although Comrade Xiao Zhang's reason is superficial, it is the most simple and clear. ”

Zhang Yifu saw that she finally softened a little, so he continued: "Otherwise, I won't call you Professor Wang, just call Grandma Wang, I won't suffer a loss, our little comrades come here to talk about their opinions, they are shallow and immature, they can't talk about talking to experts, and I won't be so strict." ”

Wang Ying's pleasant face was a little stricter, and she nodded in acquiescence.

"Cheng, then I'll continue. Zhang Yifu followed with a smile, "Let me first say the most superficial truth, that is, the selection of 700,000 units is not the same as the selection of imported units." ”

Wang Ying's expression suddenly tightened a little: "Comrade Xiao Zhang, you still don't understand, if you want to use a unit of 700,000 yuan, it must be imported." ”

"But this is only a temporary situation at present, we can completely introduce technology to build our own, right? Take a step back, the construction of the unit is about 10 years later, and the development of domestic equipment is so fast, maybe in a few years there will be a capacity of 700,000? To tell you the truth, when I was engaged in supercritical in the previous period, I also faced such a problem, but the technical bottleneck of supercritical was too dead, and there was no way, so I came to the conclusion that it must be imported, and it must be imported within a few years. However, in terms of hydropower units, our technology is not so backward, and it may reach the capacity of 700,000 at any time, so I think it is a little far-fetched to forcibly tie 700,000 to imports. ”

Zhang Yifu always speaks slowly, as softly as possible, without any aggression, which is very different from his usual style, which makes Lao Zou have goosebumps all over his body, you kid Grandma Wang called the thief your mother!

Wang Ying is also in a kind of entanglement, and Zhang Yifu's statement is indeed difficult to overturn......

I haven't mentioned it so clearly, it's certainly not because other people are stupider than Zhang Yifu, it's just that my thinking is limited, in their cognition, 700,000 hydro generators are not much different from supercritical coal-fired generators, and if they are destined to be imported, 700,000 is equal to imports. In 2003, the first unit was put into operation, and then 32 units of 700,000 units were built in the following 10 years, including 6 units of underground power stations that were later expanded. The 14 units put into production in the early stage are VGS consortium (composed of German Voith, Canadian GE, German Siemens) and ALSTOM Group imported equipment, and the follow-up units are completely domestic, including Dongfang Electric, Harbin Electric Machinery Factory and other production equipment, which are not inferior to imported units, and later export benefits are quite gratifying, and the threshold of hydropower technology is far from being as unattainable as supercritical or nuclear power.

"Grandma Wang, don't think about it, I don't say this, it's not to argue with anyone about anything, but to talk about our technical argument from a personal point of view. Zhang Yifu didn't intend to hold on to this, and continued in a soft tone, "I don't know if you have discovered it, foreign power technology has actually been standing still for many years, supercritical or supercritical, DC transmission or DC transmission, 700,000 or 700,000, since I joined the work, I have been thinking about this question, have you encountered a technical bottleneck? or are you slacking off......?"