Chapter 585: Sharp Questions

"Let's talk about it. Minister Xu's eyes flickered, and he made up his mind to expel Sioux City from the pavilion.

Su Cheng was very familiar with such a look, and he was also very inexplicable, and thought: If you knew it, you wouldn't have come. But...... Now that it's already here, it can't be gone.

In front of Fei Lao, the heads of various companies also surged with a trace of passion, and the opportunity to show their faces like this was rare, and they were all nervous, silently preparing for the next speech.

After a while, the director of the technical department of the Ministry of Railways stood up and said with a smile: "Otherwise, I'll throw bricks and jade for us." ”

A brief, clear, and concise explanation of the situation is sufficient. Minister Xu reminded: "Too specific details are best reflected in the reports of various units." ”

There are always dozens of enterprise leaders here, and if they talk at length, I am afraid that one afternoon will not be enough.

The director of the Ministry of Railways nodded his head to show his understanding, and then said: "We have two projects that the Ministry of Railways is preparing to use for international exhibitions, one of which is the comprehensive automated marshalling station that has been put into use at Zhengzhou North Station, which is a systematic project, which can not only reflect the technical nature of machinery and equipment, but also reflect the modernization of station management. Second, the JBC-1 transistor relay protection test bench developed by the hydropower section of the Hangzhou * Zhou Railway Branch of the Ministry of Railways, the performance of the test bench comprehensively exceeds the domestic imported products of the same grade, and it is a railway equipment that is expected to obtain orders. ”

Minister Xu politely commented: "The Ministry of Railways is very well prepared. ”

In 94 years, the Ministry of Railways had several times the salary of state civil servants, and its power was also unusually large. On the other hand, ministries and state enterprises of the State Council. Even if it is a central enterprise, there is a big difference, and as a member of the ministry, Minister Xu cannot be as casual as a state-owned enterprise under the Ministry of Machinery Industry.

The Ministry of Railways participated in the exhibition this time, and it was one of the members of the organization, and the minister was not allowed to make irresponsible remarks. The director made such a positive introduction because of Fei Lao's presence.

Deputy Director Lu, the head of the group, naturally had nothing to say, but said: "I am looking forward to the performance of the Ministry of Railways in this exhibition, and I have the impression that the automated marshalling station of Zhengzhou North Station is a key project of the Eighth Five-Year Plan." It was done two years ahead of schedule, which is very rare. ”

The director of the Ministry of Railways smiled lightly and said, "We also want to get two orders back, and the cost of developing new technologies is very high, so if we don't want to find a way to get back a little." Later development will be difficult. ”

Asking for money and policies is the basic skill of state-owned enterprise cadres, and state-owned enterprise cadres who cannot take advantage of all opportunities to ask for money and policies will fall into the vast number of middle-level posts. Taking advantage of Fei Lao's presence, the director of the Technology Department took the opportunity to complain.

Deputy Director Lu smiled, as if he felt that the amount of information was enough, and turned his head and asked, "Fei Lao, shall we move on to the next project?"

"There's no hurry. Fei Lao's back was straight. He turned his head back slightly and said, "Yin Ping, you come to ask." ”

"Yes. Yin Ping is the deputy director of the Fei Office, and he is also a staff member who often accompanies Fei Lao. He has been involved in science and technology and economy, and has known many state-owned enterprises.

However, it was a very serious matter to ask questions on behalf of Fei Lao, and Yin Ping did not have the slightest smile on his face. It is diametrically opposed to Fei Lao's spring breeze. I saw him sit forward, and then lowered his head and twisted out the documents submitted by the Ministry of Railways earlier. Said: "Since it is a project to participate in international exhibitions, may I ask, what is the current international level of this technology?"

This question was too real and too direct, which made the director of the Ministry of Railways a little confused. Because the answer is too simple, Japan has a bullet Shinkansen train in 64 years, and what is the automatic marshalling station in the world in the 90s? It can only be said that this is a small step for the world, but it is a big step for China, after all, China's industrial base is weak, the territory is vast, and the responsibility of the railway is not to seek innovation and improvement at present, but to cover and safety as the main indicators. If you have a little understanding, it is understandable that the Ministry of Railways will make it an exhibitor.

However, Yin Ping was obviously not asking from the perspective of reality, not understanding.

Under the gaze of Fei Lao's warm gaze, the director of the Ministry of Railways was entangled for a moment and replied with difficulty: "In the world, the transistor relay protection test bench is still relatively new. Automated marshalling stations are not a new thing, but for now, there are no more than 10 countries that can build it independently. ”

"Then do you expect that there will be many countries that will come up with the technology of automated marshalling stations to participate in the exhibition?" Yin Ping's voice was not slow, and his voice was penetrating.

The director of the Ministry of Railways hurriedly said: "There will not be so many enterprises using automated marshalling stations to participate in the exhibition......"

"Because they have better technology?" Yin Ping interrupted him unceremoniously.

The director of the Ministry of Railways was dumbfounded: What is this?

Yin Ping, who always looked down at the documents, tilted his neck and asked, "Isn't this the case?"

This mean question is not answered by the other party, nor is it not answered, so he can only euphemistically: "The automated marshalling station is indeed not the latest technology, but there is still a chance to get orders." ”

Yin Ping let out an "oh", lowered his head again and looked at the document, and said, "So, you expect that the automated marshalling station can make money by participating in the equipment exhibition in France?"

"Yes. ”

"How much can I earn?"

"This ...... It depends on the price and quantity of the order......"

"Let's talk about the profit ratio. ”

After thinking about it, the director of the Ministry of Railways said an imaginary number: "The profit is about 10%." ”

"Do you calculate labor expenditure?" Yin Ping is familiar with the shortcomings of state-owned enterprises, when showing profitability, they tend to ignore labor and other expenses, on the other hand, when complaining about costs, they often add extremely high labor to the cost.

The Ministry of Railways was not exempt from vulgarity, and the director of the department said embarrassedly: "Manpower expenditure is not covered." ”

Even Minister Xu of the Ministry of Machinery Industry couldn't help but have the idea of hiding his face.

This kind of questioning, in front of so many state-owned enterprise people, is really embarrassing and embarrassing.

However, Yin Ping didn't mean to make the other party easier, and asked: "If something is broken, what about after-sales maintenance? Or are we going to pay for it?"

When China buys foreign equipment, it often has to prepare a third of the money to replace the parts, or ask the other party to send someone to guarantee it, and by the mid-90s, this cost has been taken into account by the authorities at all levels.

However, Chinese are often pitted by foreign companies, which does not mean that Chinese companies can use the same methods to trap foreigners. This is not only a difference in the level of industrial technology, but also a difference in judicial procedures and economic environment.

In order to compete with foreign companies to obtain orders, the Ministry of Railways has always operated after-sales service as an advantageous item. That is, the cost of parts at cost, and the maintenance cost is almost free.

And in the current context, it would be even more embarrassing to tell the truth.

The director of the department glanced at Minister Xu for help, and thought: Didn't you say it short and clear? Didn't you say it concisely and to the point? Which ear did you hear the short?

Minister Xu had thick skin and rough meat, so he just pretended not to see it. He and the Ministry of Railways are not subordinate to each other, and they are neither willing to offend each other, but they are also unwilling to make Fei Lao unhappy for the other party, no matter how you say it, the latter is more important.

No one helped to speak, and Fei Lao's eyes were so sharp.

The director of the Ministry of Railways had to answer straightforwardly, bowed his head and said: "The cost is not calculated for after-sales and maintenance expenses." ”

"That is. Earn less than 10%?"

"Yes. "Until the era of high-speed rail, the Ministry of Railways did not have the ability to build railways abroad and then make direct profits. The high-speed railway they built for Saudi Arabia is a well-known and hugely lossy project, and the projects to help African countries are purely political, economic and market-oriented. Whether it is the Ministry of Railways or PetroChina, they are all the same pit fathers.

The international market, no matter which country's national enterprises, has always been the image of a clown. They are different from normal businesses. Profitability does not depend on the profit between cost and selling price, but on subsidies and political resources obtained from selling moe.

The Ministry of Railways shouted at the reserve price. Even the act of losing money and making money has long been proficient. In the mind of the leader, as long as there are enough orders, it is not important whether there is a profit or not. Compared with the so-called profits in the year-end report, the figures for foreign exchange earned from exports are obviously more valuable.

It's a pity that it was broken.

In other words, Fei Lao didn't care about this matter before, but now they are serious.

However, the cadres of state-owned enterprises present could not talk to Fei Lao or his staff about whether they were serious or not, because if Fei Lao was serious, they would have to be serious, and it would be useless to be wronged.

A minute of silence seemed so long.

The Ministry of Railways has been hit with a heavy hammer, and the heads of other enterprises are willing to show their heads, and the needles in the hall can be heard in an instant.

Fei Lao didn't speak, he looked at everyone with his eyes, which had already brought heavy pressure.

Minister Xu had to stand up and name him: "Mr. Fang, you can talk about the projects that Wuzhong exhibited. ”

Mr. Fang was originally sitting behind the door, rubbing his face indifferently, watching the jokes of the Ministry of Railways, when he was called by his name, his face was bitter as if he was about to drip water, and he couldn't help but scold: This queen mother is really different.

Slanting at Yin Ping's brain, Mr. Fang stood up and said as briefly as possible: "What we are preparing is a CNC 16-meter single-column mobile desktop lathe, which is the leading technology in China, and the profit is expected to be more than 50%. ”

"What about the leading technology in China, but what about the international?" Yin Ping's question was still generally sharp, as if he was peeling and deboning with a knife.

"Internationally, it's probably the mainstream level. ”

"Is there one?" Yin Ping took out a piece of paper from Wu Chong's folder and placed it on the table, his index finger falling on it, spinning nonchalantly.

"The main part is at the international mainstream level. ”

"Only the main part has reached the international mainstream level, do you have the confidence to participate in the international exhibition?"

"Faith...... There are still. Mr. Fang looked at Fei Lao, answered Yin Ping's question, and said very reluctantly, their CNC machine tools can only be said to have solved the problem, at best, the technology of the early eighties has been changed, and some technologies obtained from other channels have been integrated. In fact, since the reform and opening up, there are few state-owned enterprises that can do technology with peace of mind, and there are even fewer equipment enterprises that can do technology with peace of mind.

In the mid-90s, state-owned enterprises were on a downward trend across the board, and this was an era of impetuousness for the whole people...... More than 10% bank deposit interest, more than 15% bank loan interest rate, and 24% inflation are all more than several times that of the so-called great inflation era in later generations.

If you don't know the high value of the oil industry in later generations, if you don't know the high threshold of the oil industry in later generations. If it weren't for the high profits of the oil fields he obtained, it would be difficult for Sioux City not to do the things of picking up corn and throwing sesame seeds, picking up watermelons and throwing corn in this golden age.

Su Cheng watched coldly, he could understand the confusion and confusion of state-owned enterprises, but he did not sympathize with the heads of these enterprises. It has the best policies in China, has the most skilled workers in China, has the most monopolistic market in China, and at the same time has financing costs that are several times lower than those of private enterprises. It is definitely not a question of whether you can make a profit, but whether you are willing or not.

The heads of these state-owned enterprises always think about personal gains and losses, not corporate gains and losses.

in the construction of the Motherland. The passion for fighting for socialism has passed, and the mid-life crisis is not only reflected in these middle-aged and elderly state-owned enterprises, but also in these middle-aged and elderly state-owned enterprises.

After Mr. Fang sat down in a daze, Minister Xu named a few more names, but none of them were recognized, and the person in charge of the Fourth Airlines was even more unstable.

The atmosphere was getting tense, and everyone was worried about being called up. But he knew that he couldn't avoid it, and he was entangled in sticking his head out or shrinking his head, but Su Cheng was relaxed and tight, and he could see it. This Minister Xu definitely doesn't want to be brilliant himself.

However, every time there is one more point of the dead Daoist, Fei Lao's face will be ugly, and Minister Xu will be cold.

The stepmother's child is dead. Cannon fodder is indispensable, and Minister Xu is heartbroken. He nodded at his own children and said, "Mr. Gao, you can introduce Shougang's project." ”

Gao Gang also expected this, and got up uneasily and said: "What we Shougang took out this time is a high-strength galvanized cold-rolled steel plate with a yield strength of 280, which can be used in automobile production and can significantly improve the life of automobiles." At present, our galvanized cold-rolled steel plate has been sold to FAW, SAIC and other enterprises, and we hope to expand the sales of steel plate after participating in the exhibition......"

"With a yield strength of 280 megapascals, such a galvanized cold-rolled steel plate can only be regarded as a low-strength galvanized steel plate. Yin Ping didn't even look at the information this time, pressed his hand on Shougang's folder, and said: "The production of galvanized cold-rolled steel plate should be profitable now." However, in order to be recognized or ordered at international exhibitions, the CIF price must be lower than the price in Japan, South Korea, Brazil and other countries...... Judging from Shougang's current situation, it is unlikely. Moreover, to participate in international exhibitions, we should still focus on high-tech products......"

This is an obstacle to reality, and Gao Gang simply does not explain it.

Yin Ping didn't ask, picked up the pen, wrote two sentences in the notebook in front of him, and set his eyes on Minister Xu.

Minister Xu walked through the crowd for a long time before he named another name, but the result was the same. Yin Ping, whose language was as sharp as a knife, was like a butcher, cutting the other party's technique into several sections, making the mystery of the technical terms completely lost, leaving only a bunch of second-rate and third-rate shadows floating.

Equipment manufacturing itself is an industry that needs to be accumulated and invested, but what China lacks most is patience and capital. To find the factors of innovation and technological progress from a bunch of decaying old large state-owned enterprises is tantamount to seeking fish from a wood.

It will not be until 10 years later at the earliest, China's machinery industry will restart and gain a place in the market at more cost.

At that time, they were not chasing the world market, but only hoping to regain the lost ground in the domestic market.

Minister Xu named again.

Yin Ping dissected again.

Minister Xu continued to roll out names.

Yin Ping continued to dissect.

By the time there were only a few companies left, Minister Xu couldn't order anymore. These are all large state-owned enterprises under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Machinery Industry. As the person in charge of the ministry that had just been spun off, Minister Xu could not send them to Tiger Mountain even though he knew that there were tigers in the mountain.

If this is really bitten by Yin Ping, who eats people and doesn't spit out bones, those unyielding souls don't know what kind of chaos will be caused by the new ministry.

"Minister Xu?" Yin Ping couldn't help but look up and asked.

Minister Xu was heartbroken and said, "Su Cheng, you can speak on behalf of Dahua Industrial." ”

It is not important whether it is public or non-public, the important thing is that the enterprises under the Ministry of Machinery Industry cannot be wiped out, and they are also the capital of Minister Xu's life.

The remaining heads of nearly ten enterprises couldn't help but breathe a sigh of relief.

Fei Lao seemed to have come to the spirit, changed the template that he only listened to, and said with a false point: "Didn't Dahua Industry say before that there was a development of a marine steel plate?

With this sentence, the director of the Ministry of Railways and the high post of Shougang burst into tears: no wonder Yin Ping is Fei Lao's staff, the two of them are basically the same kind of people, and they are not the masters who save face.

Minister Xu didn't want Shougang to suffer a second blow, so he hurriedly said: "Fei Lao, Dahua Industry is a petroleum company, and it does not produce steel plates. ”

"Technology is technology, production is production. Dahua Industry has the industry of Dahua Shipbuilding and the R&D institution of Dahua Laboratory, so it is feasible to only do technology without production. Yin Ping helped explain, he was actually a little curious, Dahua Industrial, which had just obtained the Azerbaijan oil field, was not well-known among the people, but it was deafening at the top.

Minister Xu gathered the light in his eyes and looked at Su Cheng, hoping that he would "know how to advance and retreat".

It's a pity that Su Cheng has already made up his mind to fight a bloody way today, how can he be humble, ignore the vicious gaze of Minister Xu and Gao Gang, get up and say: "Speaking of high-strength steel plates, we do have some by-products during the development of marine steel plates......"

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A little later than 12 o'clock, but 1000 words more than yesterday, which is an upward trend.

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