Chapter 510 Patent Barriers

Wang Yun's eyebrows were twisted into Sichuan characters, and he said to himself: "I haven't heard of any unit in China whose carbon fiber research is close to the finished product." ”

"You really think that their technology is their own research. Yang Ming looked at Wang Yun's innocent eyes, one head and two big, shook his head, pulled it up and left, and thought: Are all these people who are engaged in research stupid? Such a person can fool 2,000 fools, and is he ready to deceive another 5,000?

Wang Yun didn't know why, he turned his head to look back, and said: "Didn't he say that there will be carbon fiber technology soon?" We are tracking the progress of carbon fiber in various countries around the world at any time, and there was a meeting yesterday to report it, and there is no movement in the patent office and periodicals...... Let me think about it, our domestic carbon fiber research institute, the oil company under the research institute counts as one, Sinopec counts as one, CNOOC has no movement, and if you want to say anything, the research institute under the Ministry of Coal also made carbon fiber, and there is also the research institute under the Ministry of Textiles, but the Ministry of Textiles is long gone, and these research institutes are independent, and the funds are not enough......

He said as he walked, but Yang Ming laughed angrily.

Seeing that there were also people wearing half-worn suits around Su Cheng, Yang Ming grabbed Wang Yun and said: "The car these people are riding in is from the Foreign Affairs Office, and the young man who spoke just now is from the Investment Promotion Office, so it is likely that they are coming to Su Dong to ask for technology, so you should pay attention when you speak." ”

"You mean, these people are from the government?"

"Probably. ”

"The government is also interested in our technology?"

"Maybe. ”

Wang Yun frowned and asked, "Do you want to give money?"

"Ahh Yang Ming said absent-mindedly.

Wang Yun shook his head: "That's not good, the government now has a lot of money, and it gives less, what do I use to give subsidies to interns and salaries to assistants? The electricity bill is tens of thousands of dollars a month. ”

Yang Ming was stunned, and said dumbly: "I thought you would agree, and your feelings have learned to calculate." ”

"In the institute, I spent a dollar in half, can I not count it? Technology transfer is charged by shares, and if there are more shares transferred, it will be worthless.

Yang Ming laughed, and wanted to tell him twice, the two of them had already arrived at Su Cheng's side. He had no choice but to stand aside and watch Sioux City introduce them to each other.

The new government officials are indeed a combination of several families. The provincial-level and city-level investment promotion offices in Jiangsu and Zhejiang have all come, and the lobbyists all over the hall are mainly from them, and the foreign affairs office is here to cover the investment promotion office. After providing a coat, the soy sauce begins. Sioux City was accompanied by a synthetic fiber research institute, numbered "826". Although I did not elaborate, in China, this purely numerical unit is not for the military, but also for the secret units of key departments.

Yang Ming suddenly became nervous, and silently thought in his heart: I am not a crow's mouth. I'm not a crow's mouth......

The current army is not only poor, but also has a good appetite. There are many enterprises in the military, some of which make money and some of which do not, and those who make money make a lot of money. Those who do not make money are desperately demanding policies and funds, and they are engaged in the army to make money at sunrise, and they do not care about units like research institutes that cannot produce results immediately. Technology such as carbon fiber is transferred to them, let alone to make money. If the price is removed from a family price and then discounted, they can't afford it, but they won't be ambiguous when the time comes.

This kind of unit that neither cares about the market nor understands the market is the most terrible. He makes the market bad, and he has to show a pair of innocent eyes to look at you.

Fortunately, everyone was reserved and did not stand in the hall to talk about business, Ducatt and others quickly led the topic to the technical aspect and had a cordial conversation with Wang Yun.

Yang Ming turned around and went to the Information Bureau to find information on the 826 Institute.

called Dong Feng, Yang Ming rubbed his hands and stood under the small building of the Information Bureau waiting for the result. In addition to Sioux City, there are few high-level executives in the Dahua headquarters who are qualified to enter the Information Bureau, but there are a few high-level guys in the branches outside the Dahua headquarters.

The people of the Information Bureau came and went in a hurry, but no one looked at Yang Ming, let alone took the initiative to come up to say hello. It's not at all like the bustle of the headquarters, or the calmness of the Dahua Laboratory.

After waiting for about a quarter of an hour, when Yang Ming was almost impatient, a girl from the Information Bureau came out of the building, handed him a sealed envelope, and then took the receipt and left.

Yang Ming stretched out his hand to open it, but saw that there was only a blank piece of paper inside, which read: The information is incomplete, and the general assembly is subordinate.

"......" Yang Ming gasped.

Although the Dahua Information Bureau is an enterprise information collection agency, there is always some ordinary information. Throwing back a blank piece of paper can only mean that the level of the 826 Institute is high enough, so high that all information except for the code name is kept secret. The Dahua Information Bureau has always given up on such domestic units.

According to China's system, there are two types of units with a high level of secrecy, one is that the products are advanced and important, and the other is the research institution with a high administrative level. The products made by the local military districts are the most advanced, and they do not necessarily have a high level of secrecy for the toilets of the Central Military Commission, and the explanation of the "subordinates of the general assembly" at least shows that the background of the 826 Institute is profound.

"Crossing the river Raptor. Yang Ming put the blank paper in his pocket, and he was not in a hurry to go back, it has been so long, 826 is not powerful, Su Cheng should have known.

In fact, Director Lu of the Synthetic Fiber Research Institute, Gen didn't want to hide it from Su Cheng.

The director of the research institute, who looked like a university professor, was afraid that Su Cheng would make a mistake in his judgment, so he first reported the number like a bandit in the rivers and lakes, and specially explained: "The research institute shoulders the heavy task of reforming the armament of the whole army, and before coming out, the leaders of the general assembly earnestly asked us to learn from Dahua Industry ......

Su Cheng nodded frequently: "That's right, the new era and new situation are indeed different, well, let's go to the laboratory first." ”

After saying these two words, he said another sentence in English, and then took the lead and headed for the laboratory.

Everyone rushed in, and Director Lu couldn't figure out whether Su Cheng understood or not, and wanted to ask carefully, but there were foreigners around, so he had to endure it.

This patience is two hours.

Wang Yun was ready and took everyone to go through several test laboratories of the carbon fiber institute, and many important parameters had to be tested several times, and the time was delayed.

Foreign technicians of several companies. They even brought their own standard materials and used them on the test machine to make sure that the values of the machine were correct.

Su Cheng also let them operate, the suspect is the buyer, and the carbon fiber has spent so much research money, it is better to recover some of it.

Until the people were sleepy and tired, Wang Yun took them to visit a few laboratories.

This time it's faster. Of the 6 laboratories selected, only the earliest preparation laboratories could enter, and the other 5 were all looking out of the window. Even so, a group of people watched it very seriously.

Wang Yun pinched the watch, and every 2 minutes, he changed a group of people to lie on the window, and 3 groups of people looked at it, and then left.

In this case. Director Lu could only hold back his strength, and like everyone else, he tried to read as many records as possible, and had no extra time to ask questions. As for looking at the flowers, how many things can be seen, that is the level of the individual.

Despite this, Ducatt is very satisfied. After the six labs were finished, without waiting for the others to speak, he knocked on the stick and asked, "I noticed." Is it conscious that the raw materials used by Dahua in the preparation of mesophase asphalt have a high aromatity?"

Wang Yun replied, "Consciously." ”

"Oh, what's the principle?" Ducat, who is at the top of the technology stream, came and carefully checked bp's carbon fiber technology. It is determined that there is no such awareness.

Wang Yun seems to be very open to explain: "Among the raw materials, when the interaction force between the large π bond conjugate architecture is relatively large. It may cause the softening point to rise, the viscosity to increase, and it is not easy to spin. Therefore, we require that the raw material for the preparation of mesophase bitumen must contain a certain amount of hydrogen, that is, a certain amount of naphthenic and aliphatic side chains in the structure. ”

As soon as he finished speaking, someone asked, "How much is a certain amount of hydrogen?"

"That's the secret. Wang Yun nodded.

The official of the Foreign Affairs Office frowned and said, "Since it is a secret experiment, how can you explain it in front of foreigners......

"We have applied for a patent for this research. Wang Yun interrupted Director Lu's words, but his smile was inadequate.

"Ah......h

Material data is frequently tested, and material testing is often expensive, and if you are unlucky, it is not surprising that it can take months and millions of dollars, and then the impact of patents, the cost of time and money is even greater.

However, such a small key point, if it is purchased directly, the other party may not offer millions of dollars.

Most of the people present were businessmen, and they immediately lost interest.

Ducatt exchanged with his deputy for a moment, and then said: "If you want to maintain the interaction force between the conjugated architectures at a level, just a quantitative amount of hydrogen, naphthenic and aliphatic side chains is probably not enough. ”

"That's what you're saying. Wang Yun had already been authorized, and he cocked his thumb and said: "Quinoline insolubles, heterocyclic compounds containing nitrogen, oxygen, and sulfur, metal-organic compounds and complexes, and active components all have certain requirements. ”

"You have a whole theory about this?" Ducatt said, surprised. The complexity of chemical research lies in this, the relationship between compounds that affect the final performance of the product is to be analyzed according to mathematical arrangement, and each more compound has to increase the possibility of hundreds of kinds. For modern industry, testing without theoretical guidance is a huge amount of money, and even BP cannot afford it.

Wang Yun didn't answer directly, but only smiled: "The current conclusion proves to be valid. ”

The validity of the conclusion does not prove the integrity of the theory.

Ducatt also knew that he couldn't ask anything, and was a little disappointed.

At this time, Timsey, who had come from afar, stepped forward. He didn't know much about technology, so he didn't move forward, and it wasn't until now that he came to the front desk and said with a smile: "Su Dong, can we visit the production plant of Dahua Industry now?"

As soon as these words came out, everyone's eyes lit up.

Director Lu licked his lips and leaned forward.

Although the 826 Institute is a synthetic fiber research institute, there are so many types of synthetic fibers, and they can't come up with enough funds to continue research on carbon fibers. Therefore, getting a cheap carbon fiber production line is his biggest expectation.

Dahua Industrial's production factory, itself is his first goal, more important than the laboratory.

The industrial production of any kind of industrial material is not the same as laboratory production. The main difference is in yield and yield. Steel is an extreme example. The laboratory parameters of a new alloy material are only a reference, and the important thing is how to produce it on a large scale. Or even the same kind of steel. Because the way of mass production is different, the fate of the two companies is ultimately determined.

Carbon fiber is still a high-tech material, and with the word "high-tech", it means that its production will not be too high. Still, the model of industrial production is different.

The focus of Dahua Industrial's cheap carbon fiber is to be cheap. In the eyes of Ducater and others, its technical parameters can only be said to be lackluster and passable. However, such a passable material, with one-tenth of the completion. The meaning is completely different.

What foreign manufacturers want to see most is how Dahua Industrial can control it.

Even if you can't buy Dahua Industrial's technology, you may be able to get some inspiration from visiting their industrial production methods.

With this in mind, the executives of the visiting companies. Most of them have technical deputies around them. Even a high-level person like Ducat, who has a technical background, is worried about the aging of his knowledge, and brings new people with him.

Wang Yun hesitated slightly, and the foreign businessmen said in a loud voice: "The factory is a must-see." ”

"If you don't look at the factory, you can't judge accurately. ”

"Go now. ”

Director Lu suddenly became nervous, and felt indignant that his treasure was touched by others, and choked out: "Su Dong." The secret technology, or to keep it a secret, now everyone understands the situation of carbon fiber, if only to buy carbon fiber. That's enough. ”

Sioux City let out an "oh" from the goodness.

Ducatt smiled: "What Su Dong is going to sell is not a finished carbon fiber product. ”

Su Cheng nodded and smiled, "No." ”

"Is Su Dong interested in selling technology?" asked Timothy

"Let's focus on patent licensing. Su Cheng smiled.

"Since we are involved in production technology, let's take a tour of Dahua Industrial's factory. ”

Su Cheng shook his head at this time and said, "Dahua Industrial is only ready to authorize 3 companies, so there is no need for a group visit." ”

A group of people suddenly.

Ducatt is the most wealthy. Without a single stumble, he asked, "How is the price determined?"

"Count it by production. $30 per kilogram. Sioux City smiled.

Ducatt frowned, "Isn't that higher than the production of carbon fiber?"

"But there's still a profit. Su Cheng smiled and said, "Although it is a cheap staple fiber, it can be sold at a quarter of the price of ordinary fiber in the early stage, and it should still be possible." ”

Wang Yun next to him pretended to take off his glasses to wipe them, and he was excited in his heart. In order to use the cheapest raw materials and the cheapest production process to knead an acceptable carbon fiber, he did several years of paper research, and then led nearly 20 project teams and 2,000 interns and assistants to complete the task of testing and tackling key problems. In this process, the number of patents obtained by Dahua Industrial Carbon Fiber Research Institute has exceeded 100, no matter which country it is, this is a very large number of patents, and there is no doubt that the patent barriers are formed.

Now, after all, there is something to be gained.

The Carbon Fiber Research Institute is no longer a research institute that eats rice.

Wang Yun looked at the foreigners in front of him, like looking at a flock of fat sheep.

Ducatel and the others immediately began to bargain.

The proposal for a patent buyout and assignment was swiftly rejected by Sioux City, and the derivative rights of the patent were restricted.

The Lion of Sioux City opened his mouth widely, also to protect his patent barriers, and in the case of the company's interests not being harmed, the price of patent licensing soon talked about 12,000 US dollars per ton, that is, 12 yuan per kilogram.

This figure is neither high nor low, with an annual output of 500 tons, the annual patent expenditure is 6 million US dollars, which is only a drop in the bucket for large companies. However, it would be terrifying if the number was too much, with 5,000 tons representing $60 million in royalties and 50,000 tonnes worth $600 million.

For industrial production, as long as the production capacity goes up, 50,000 tons is nothing. Now Boeing has begun to use carbon fiber to make aircraft tails, if the price of carbon fiber is cheap enough, the world aviation industry alone, can swallow tens of thousands of tons of carbon fiber. The outlook for the automotive industry is even more terrifying, and although it is difficult to say how many years it will take to make car bodies from carbon fiber, the consumption of carbon fiber is palpable.

It is extremely important for foreign companies to determine a contract that is a going concern.

Someone even immediately proposed a 15-year near-lifetime contract.

The negotiations lasted more than three hours. In addition to carbon fiber contracts, there are also some third-party contracts such as the purchase of equipment.

After talking about the details, it was already evening, Su Cheng got up and invited everyone to dinner, Director Lu came over and said with a smile: "Su Dong, you look at the carbon fiber technology, can you transfer some to us." ”

"Oh, you also want to buy patent licenses? Let's just trade in RMB, well, what about the current price?" 93 years of foreign exchange is still very valuable, with the renminbi trading itself is a discount.

Director Lu smiled and said: "We don't need patent authorization, we just make something for the army, you teach us how to do it, we guarantee that the product will not flow into the market, what do you think?"

Carbon fiber is also a sought-after commodity in China, and the military is also a target user in Sioux City. If the 826 Institute sells carbon fiber to the army, the latter will also have to pay the 826 Institute.

Different from ordinary factories, carbon fiber is a small factory, which is obviously very suitable for the 826 institute in transition.

Su Cheng didn't care about Director Lu's abacus, and said with a smile: "That's it, let's visit the factory first." Tomorrow morning, after you have visited Dahua's factory, you will decide. ”

Director Lu didn't feel strange when he didn't get the promise, and said with a proud smile: "Then I'll decide after visiting the factory tomorrow." By the way, does Su Dong have time in the evening? I have a few friends who want to visit you. ”

"Then the InterContinental Hwaseong Hotel, just have dinner together. Sioux turned around and beckoned the others to go.

Director Lu looked at his back and snorted softly.

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When I got home, I worked hard to update and be a good dolphin.

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