After Li Tianyi heard Zhu Xiaochuan's answer, his eyes immediately narrowed, and he said coldly: "Is this the only explanation?"

Zhu Xiaochuan shook his head: "Of course it's not just that. Secretary Li, I also agree with the current situation of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group, it is necessary to carry out reforms, but how to reform must be carefully discussed, if you carry out reforms in accordance with the tainted suggestions you put forward, and completely kick out our SASAC from the main body of management, this is absolutely not possible.

I won't say much else, but I'll give you just two examples of why it doesn't work.

First, Baoyi Iron and Steel Group has always relied on the government to guarantee its main production factors. I believe that Secretary Li should be clear about this, it is precisely because of this dependence that Baoyi Iron and Steel has become a special type of politically related enterprise in today's Chinese economy, like other state-owned enterprises. With this political tie, SOEs enjoy a super-economic competitive advantage that is difficult for non-SOEs to achieve. And we believe that this advantage is not obtained by the iron and steel group out of thin air, they are also realized through market competition, and the iron and steel group has become the main body of market competition, so there is no need to promote the more thorough reform mentioned in the five views of Secretary Li.

Second, our county SASAC manages a large state-owned enterprise such as Baoyi Iron and Steel Group, and we have become a major shareholder, and our SASAC has used all resources to make Baoyi Iron and Steel Group bigger and stronger in the past few years. If there is no such a large state-owned enterprise as a support, how can the leaders of the SASAC make political achievements? So when the time comes, is it still necessary for the SASAC to exist? So, when the time comes, Secretary Li, do you also want to reform the SASAC?"

After listening to Zhu Xiaochuan's words, Li Tianyi was silent for a while, raised his head suddenly, and said in a cold tone: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, since you have said this to this point, then I will no longer go around the corner, and I will directly tell you the real reason why in my opinion you and the SASAC in your charge are unwilling to accept thorough reform, right?"

In my opinion, the reason why the Baoyi County SASAC is unwilling to accept the thorough reform of the Baoyi Iron and Steel Group is very pure, that is, as Comrade Zhu Guohua said, once the thorough reform is carried out, the interests of the SASAC officials will be harmed.

Why do you say that, huh?

First, as a manager, the annual salary of the SASAC is far from being comparable with that of corporate executives, and if it is thoroughly reformed, the SASAC will lose its power to manage and guide the work of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group. Without the power of management, there is no room for power rent-seeking, which is the first reason.

The second reason is that in our Baoyi County State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, there are often officials who will parachute into a certain enterprise as executives, and continue to return to the government to work after making a fortune for a few years. Those who work in this system receive high economic benefits on the one hand, and enjoy the treatment of civil servants on the other. Especially at this stage, the final decision on the reform of state-owned enterprises is not in the hands of enterprises, but in the hands of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission and the government leaders in charge of state-owned assets. In order to obtain your consent and approval, the reform of state-owned enterprises must be made available, otherwise, you will have no incentive to promote the reform of state-owned enterprises. ”

Speaking of this, Li Tianyi's gaze at Zhu Xiaochuan became even colder: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, what I said is reasonable?"

Zhu Xiaochuan didn't answer him, just kept silent, but everyone present was an old fox who had been up and down in the sea for many years, and naturally he could hear that Li Tianyi's analysis was to the point, and he directly analyzed Zhu Xiaochuan's real motives for hindering the steel group from carrying out thorough reform.

And what everyone didn't expect was that Li Tianyi would dare to say it so much.

Seeing that Zhu Xiaochuan was silent, Li Tianyi looked at Xia Chenglin, head of the Organization Department of the county party committee: "Comrade Xia Chenglin, let's talk about the reasons why you don't agree with the thorough reform. ”

Speaking of this, Li Tianyi took a deep breath and said in a low tone: "In the past, the management of the iron and steel group in Baoyi County was managed by administrative appointment, and the appointment and management of the leaders of state-owned enterprises by the organization department was not based on the method of the market, but was recommended by the organization and appointed by the party committee like the administrative officials. In the eyes of your organizational departments, the difference between the leaders and administrative officials of state-owned enterprises is just a difference in the division of labor.

However, you should be aware that this method of personnel appointment is bound to form an inherent conflict with the governance structure of modern enterprises that needs to be established in the reform of state-owned enterprises. What your organization does not want to lose is the control of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group's personnel. Because for you, controlling people is equivalent to controlling the enterprise.

And for those who are selected by your organization department and the SASAC department to be stationed in the state-owned enterprises, they will take advantage of the information advantage, and some people will turn the enterprises into enterprises under their own control, and the end result will be that it is difficult for the party and the government to supervise the corrupt behavior of these people.

However, according to my observation of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group, the motivation of state-owned enterprise operators to pursue performance and profitability mainly comes from the short-term annual performance incentive and tenure performance incentive mechanism, but the legal accountability system for enterprise executives and the effective professional manager selection mechanism have not been truly established, and the state-owned enterprise management still lacks the motivation to pursue the long-term sustainable development of the enterprise, and even lacks the dedication impulse to build the enterprise into a century-old store. ”

Li Tianyi said this, his eyes swept over the faces of Zhu Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin one by one, and finally said categorically: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, Comrade Xia Chenglin, if the people appointed by your Organization Department and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission did play a key role in the rapid development of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group ten years ago, then in the past ten years, the people you appointed have played a counterproductive role. To put it bluntly, it is the lack of effective supervision and checks and balances of the relevant departments over the SASAC enterprises, and the managers are best at political struggles and power balances due to their official backgrounds, rather than the operation and management of enterprises, which eventually led to Baoyi Iron and Steel Group finally embarking on a road on the verge of bankruptcy.

No matter how much you emphasize your past merits and achievements, but the reality of the result is cruel, if Baoyi Iron and Steel Group does not carry out thorough reform, then waiting for all employees only one result, that is, bankruptcy, bankruptcy, unemployment, I do not want to see this result, I believe that all the employees of the enterprise do not want to see. ”

Speaking of this, Li Tianyi's tone suddenly changed: "Whether it is realistic or long-term consideration, it is necessary to carry out a thorough reform of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group. ”

After speaking, Li Tianyi turned his head to look at Zhu Guohua and said with a smile: "Comrade Zhu Guohua, everyone, I believe that the answer to the second obstacle that Comrade Zhu Guohua just said should be relatively clear, right?"

After Zhu Guohua heard this, his face had become ugly.

At this moment, not only his face is ugly, but also the faces of Zhu Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin are also very ugly, none of them thought that Li Tianyi had just arrived for so long that he dared to be so strong and domineering in the reform of the iron and steel group, and he actually wanted to adopt the method of changing generals to promote the process of reform, which is also a little too radical, right?

But whether it's Zhu Guohua or not, Zhu Xiaochuan, Xia Chenglin, they all know very well that once Li Tianyi pushes the proposal to remove them to the leaders of the provincial party committee in the name of obstructing reform, the leaders of the provincial party committee are likely to adopt Li Tianyi's opinions, even if the leaders of the provincial party committee do not agree with Li Tianyi's views, but since the leaders of the provincial party committee have chosen to let Li Tianyi come to Baoyi County to preside over the overall situation, they will definitely give Li Tianyi enough support in the early stage, if Li Tianyi is really incapable, and finally cannot develop Baoyi County and Baoyi Iron and Steel Group, then the provincial party committee will definitely remove Li Tianyi directly, but at that time, even if Li Tianyi is dismissed, I'm afraid that he, Zhu Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin, have also become victims.

And once Li Tianyi succeeded, then the two of them were proposed to be removed by Li Tianyi, which further verified the correctness of Li Tianyi's decision, and at that time, the two had no chance to make a comeback.

Therefore, at this moment, the faces of the two were pale, their fists were clenched, and they couldn't wait to beat Li Tianyi hard.

Although they want to join hands with Wang Guanpeng and Zhu Guohua to hinder the process of Li Tianyi's reform, they have to be cautious in the face of Li Tianyi's strong and domineering promotion ideas.

The meeting room was silent.

Everyone fell silent. Everyone was digesting what Li Tianyi said just now.

Some people think that what Li Tianyi just said is quite in place for the analysis of the obstructive role played by the Organization Department and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission in the reform of state-owned enterprises, while others think that Li Tianyi's viewpoint is a bit too extreme, but they have to admit that Li Tianyi's analysis does have a certain amount of truth in it. And Li Tianyi's strength made everyone feel incredible.

Obviously, Li Tianyi is completely desperate. There is no way back for yourself at all. He's in a ruin.

Zhu Guohua saw that the situation was so grim, and the relationship between Li Tianyi, Zhu Xiaochuan, and Xia Chenglin was so stiff, and he knew that he had to ease up, otherwise looking at Li Tianyi's momentum, it was really possible to directly report the two to be replaced, which was the last thing he wanted to see.

Thinking of this, Zhu Guohua glanced at Wang Guanpeng and asked him to mediate.

Wang Guanpeng knew that he had to come forward, so he said with a smile: "Secretary Li, everyone should calm down first, I believe that the purpose of today's Standing Committee should be clear to everyone, we are discussing the direction of reform, the idea of reform, Secretary Li should allow everyone to fully express their opinions, we can't adjust cadres at every turn, right? If that is the case, who would dare to make their own true remarks at the Standing Committee, then it will be meaningless."

Didn't Comrade Zhu Guohua mention the two obstacles just now? Secretary Li's answer has already solved these two problems, so let's ask Comrade Zhu Guohua to talk about what the third obstacle is, right?"